Unit suggestion thread:

dude, thats pretty desperate. no offense, but theres no point to an anti sniper sniper. just get a regular sniper.

Do the Ostheer get snipers?  ???

sides, I think the Brits could use one, Recon can get mowed down trying to kill a sniper, waste of muni


edit:

Ostheer get a Marksman, who is for good for mid range combat http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5771.0, so my suggestion is a long-range (very long-range) slow firing counter sniper

Last edited December 4, 2011 at 8:16 AM by dragonmith

The Ostheer sniper gets a Kar98z later on with either vet or modernization. Not sure. So for now your Ostheer snipers will be mid range support. Later they can be long range support. :P

the marksman can become a "real" sniper after vet4

Fishhunterx wrote:
The Ostheer sniper gets a Kar98z later on with either vet or modernization. Not sure. So for now your Ostheer snipers will be mid range support. Later they can be long range support. :P

like evilSpike said:
Marksman:
[...]
* Ace
- Forward Observer (Artillery Barrage, Smoke Barrage and Box Barrage)
- or
- Sniper Ace (Sniper Camouflage, Best Counter-Detection, Slowest Camouflaged movement; receives a Scoped-K98; explosives; removes Hide ability)

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=6146.msg74481;boardseen#new

Then will the marksman be tougher than a regular sniper while it vets up? Or at least cheap?

Umm I'm pretty sure in late game the Heckenshutze Marksman (excuse my improper spelling of German words) when he takes the Sniper Ace Veterancy becomes something similar to a Counter Sniper (plus artillery :) )

God sniper :P. It'll be fun to have the Heckenshutze Marksman face off against the Hero of the SU  8)

dudes, i can see it now. to godlike warriors facing off, determining the fate of their countries.

stealthattack1 wrote:
dudes, i can see it now. to godlike warriors facing off, determining the fate of their countries.

The SU sniper slowly takes aim at the sniper ace. He checks his ammo. He knows he only needs one sho to send him home. He steadies his aim. He inhales slowly. As he exhales: BOOM! A single shot rings out! The landser troops are sprayed with blood as their Major dies. They drop to the ground. The soviet sniper and his spotter yell out a victory cry...........only to be shot by a passing kubelwagen XD

Or hit by Russian artillery  >:(

Thats a "shitty" way to die XD

its pretty hard for the marksman to reach vet4
you should remember that hes not like other "sniper" units. that means his damage output is awesome but therefore you can cloak him and he has the shortest range of all snipers untill hes vet4

so it will be very hard to get vet4 with him

Does the snipers' range in crease with vet?

no
this would make him just op

but you can cloak him but you must decloak him to fire
he has no autodecloak to fire

Like crysis two.

I can't wait to splatter Danko with the marksman.

This isn't a unit suggestion, ts more of an astetic suggestion for the future. Can the RMC Sappers' look be changed to resemble this picture. Not only does he look bad ass  ;D but IIR the current RMC Sapper looks similar to the CW Sapper.

Also since the RMC is suppose to be elite marine commandos that are battle hardened, this Sapper look would fall in line with that ideology  :P. Im not saying do it now but when you have the chance ;)

That looks quite lovely Fish, did you make it yourself?

neosdark wrote:
That looks quite lovely Fish, did you make it yourself?

Actually no. It was in the concept art or fan kit. Not sure what its called :-\. BUT I am trying to draw him :P. I already drew a Fallschrimjager but its not that good considering how Ive never drawn ppl b4 ;D.

Also when you pick a doctrine and you look at the RSE option they(Commando Sappers ;D) are there too. If you look hard enough you'll notice they're standing next to a churchill :P

Last edited December 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM by Fishhunterx

They will pwn volksgrenadiers with their amazing Badassness. BTW can the brit sapper be upgraded with a flamethrower. It would suit RMC more right?

all you have to do is get a good 2d artist to make that a skin for you. (not me)

Isnt Celestial a 2D artist? Oh Celesssssitalllll  ;D

hmm. been three days. i dont think he heard you.

Better try later.

:'( Maybe he doesn't check this part of the forums  :P

dissapointing. that sapper really looked like a beast.

We could always ask him directly  ???

we could. but its always more fun talking behind his back and waiting for him to find out.

If u must put it that way  ;D

hey, i just found this, its German heavy artillery, and was supposedly the mainstay of the German heavy artillery during WW2. im thinking it should be like the heavy artillery unit of the othseer, being like the soviet arty base, but for othseer. anyways, im thinking, it should either have an EXTREMELY long time to unlock/pack up, and also very slow to move, as during WW2 it was difficult to maneuver, and very slow to set up and tear down. heres a picture    URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/17cmr.jpg/][/URL]


And heres the wikipedia link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_cm_Kanone_18

Like the Trebuchet from Age of empire? A good idea and everything but do Ostheer really need it? Not every faction is suppost to have heavy artilleri you know. Like wehr for example :)
( Ja ja the nebelwerfer but its kind of short range!)

Walking Stuka :P

Ostheer already has Wespe. And movable arty seems a bit strange :P. I like the idea but still..... :-\

i agree that movable arty is different & the othseer doesn't need it,  but this is the suggestion thread.  ill take no offense if its a bad idea. just throwing it out there.  ;)

Nothing is meant to be offensive :P. Just stating reasons I think it may not be 100% necessary :P

i know what you mean. i just fond that picture and thought it loooked cool, so i was like, hey, why not?

That gun blew up a lot of conscripts in its day.

indeed it did.

Guys, i'm thinking is it possible for the SPG stug 3 to start from ausf B, which imports an  7.5 cm StuK 37 L/24 short barrel for AI and then you can have 2 options are upgrade this vehicle with out-skirt for better self-defence or up gun to 7.5 cm StuK 40 L/48 (ausf G) for AT ability. The idea came from a fact that Ostheer is having 2 heavy AT vehicle: Marder 2 and Stug 3 but lack of heavy AI (except the Luch and
Sdk. 251/17 cuz they'll become vulnerable to the upped Zis-2s and THs so the Guard's Krak nade)

Last edited February 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM by Mr.iuos.Q

Don't know what to say about Ostheer lacking of Heavy AI, then what's the brummbär for ;).

Also, you are forgetting that the Panzer III can be upgraded with a 75mm stubby gun if you haven't chosen brummbär's pool, so you can always have AI support.

Nice suggestion, a while ago, I also would have liked to see it in EF. But - you forgot that you can upgrade your Panzer III, which is available regardless of any Aussault/Support upgrades and Modernization, to have a short barreled 75mm KWK 37 which is a beast against infantry. For reference, it's the same weapon that PEs Stubby Panzer IV mounts.

Ninja'd by bish :P

I think the Stug III was the reason the Panzer III was upgunned to the Long Barreled 75mm, it reflected the Eastern Front Panzer III is getting less effective while the Stug III is more effective in killing tanks.

A sad thing for me to say, cause I love the Panzer III, for me its a cool tank. One question, since balancing is the game priority, will two Panzer III able to beat a T-34 or even a Sherman tank without losses? Or the Panzer III would be cheaper than the Stug III, also in your thoughts how much population cap a Stug III have compared to Stug IV, in my thoughts, it would be far higher, cause the Stug III now is a tank killer, not a cheap for balance assault gun.

hey here is a different idea for ostheers reward unit. what about Helicopters Germans used 2 kinds helikoptorer during the war.

Flettner Fl 282 Kolibri: a useful artillery spotting helicopter and an observation unit.

Focke Achgelis Fa 223: multiple purposes helicopter
you could use it to transport infantry and light equipment such as Kübelwagen, Flak 38, Pack 36 and Pack 40.

UPGRADES:
1: This helicopter could throw bombs or shoot with its machine gun. 2*250 kg bombs and 1*MG15

2: you could also make it so that you could use it as a mobile medical station.

mads wrote:
hey here is a different idea for ostheers reward unit. what about Helicopters Germans used 2 kinds helikoptorer during the war.

Flettner Fl 282 Kolibri: a useful artillery spotting helicopter and an observation unit.

Focke Achgelis Fa 223: multiple purposes helicopter
you could use it to transport infantry and light equipment such as Kübelwagen, Flak 38, Pack 36 and Pack 40.

UPGRADES:
1: This helicopter could throw bombs or shoot with its machine gun. 2*250 kg bombs and 1*MG15

2: you could also make it so that you could use it as a mobile medical station.

These vehicles were not used in excess during the war and IIRC they probably didn't even make it out of prototype stages. Case closed.

Yes, these were just prototypes and not everything what's in BF1942 Secret Weapons of WW2 is going to get included in EF :P.

Cranialwizard wrote:
These vehicles were not used in excess during the war and IIRC they probably didn't even make it out of prototype stages. Case closed.

The Flettner Fl 282 wasn't just a prototype - but only 24 were built before the factories were destroyed. So i think that argument is kind og invalid.

Best regards

either way just based on the auto response of any unit capable of attacking any plane if an air unit such as the german helicopters were added they would get torn up unless some serious micro managing is done and in terms of transport you would be better of just driving troops in a half track to get where you want them as nature(Relic) intended.

Its more of a novelty unit than a practical unit. Although fun, I must honestly say no :(. Sorry :P

Andreas wrote:

Cranialwizard wrote:
These vehicles were not used in excess during the war and IIRC they probably didn't even make it out of prototype stages. Case closed.

The Flettner Fl 282 wasn't just a prototype - but only 24 were built before the factories were destroyed. So i think that argument is kind og invalid.

Best regards

Fact is; there is no confirmed information or source about german helicopter in a "battle situation".
When german army had used helicpoter then i think they would have used them e.g. in Italy or
other difficult terrain (for supply missions).

So out of my view; no chance for a german helicopter in the Ostheer.

It could also be noted that a helicopter would be very hard to animate and code. Right? XD