Unit suggestion thread:

cool ide whit those Flame jäger or flame infantry.

new idear

I'd like to see Kugelblitz as a replacement unit for one of osthers Doctrine units. it should only be called in once. it should have a little bit more life than a panzer 4 and the same speed. it should have really good state against light vehicles and infantry it should have medium stats against buildings and bad state against tanks.

for an amount like 100 Munition, it should be possible to switch between armor piercings rounds and high explosive rounds armor piercing rounds best vs. tanks and light vehicles. while high explosive would be best against infantry and aircraft. high explosive rounds would seem a bit like small grenades, and work great against infantry spam.

maybe not an all-round Roling bunker as the other onetime call ins. but an incredibly strong tank against anything but tanks.
perhaps with State as.

infantry 15
small vehicles 9
tanks 3
buildings 6

of course depending on what kind of rounds it uses.

Ummm what is a Kugelblitz? Got a picture? And one time call in but its slightly stronger than Panzer IV health wise? Seems... weird? IDK may I need to see this thing b4 I jump to conclusions. And IDK about other ppl but it sounds like a brummbar to me  :-\ . And 100 mni to switch shells is alot :-\

The Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz is an anti air, anti infantry tank like the Wirbelwind and the Ostwind. Only about 5 prototypes where built.
http://www.thebarrelstore.com/Model%20Gallery/KugelblitzGF.jpg

Don't know how to post pictures so I give you a link. ;)

Wasn't it mentioned that no prototypes would be involved? (I'd be sad if it was, that tank looks cool to have)

and thinking of close combat, shotguns? Maybe on the builders, or as a buy for around 15-20 munitions (maybe)

IMO will be great as reward unit :).

Well I'm pretty sure they finished a few Kugelblitz cupolas, but I know for a fact that they weren't used during the war, save for a (slim) possibility that they were hurriedly used in Berlin, I'd love to see it, but as a reward unit for what?

Shotguns were discussed before, don't recall what the end to that argument was.

Don't know XD... but if it has a very slim chance to be in OH would be as reward unit :).

I do not know yet what it could be a replacement unit for. maybe it could be for elephant, Tiger II Henschel or Wespe.

then you could make it, so that for each lv it rose it would be more reliable since it was a prototype + an upgrade.

But to only have 1 Kugelblitz IMO would be weird :P. Its basically a Ostwind on crack  ;D. Or at least thats what it looks like  :P

Wespe is the only thing I think it would suit out of the doctrines. It could also feasibly replace the Brummbar.

there would only be possible for a single call in, since it was only a prototype and therefore not many of them. everything else would be historically incorrect. a weak one-time call in, but with possibilities and roles the other one-time call in can not perform. 2 types of rounds also makes it better to fill different roles. Perhaps the game's best anti-air, anti-infantry and anti-light vehicle unit.
it may not have much hp but it had other qualities to compensate for that.

I think it would be best to replace Wesper.

mads wrote:
Perhaps the game's best anti-air, anti-infantry and anti-light vehicle unit. it may not have much hp but it had other qualities to compensate for that.

Sounds like a walking Bofor  ;D. Only with a better cannon :P

Yea but I don't think Rommel will let it happen since it was a bloody prototype. I mean he doesn't even want to use the Sturmtiger, and thing wasn't a prototype (technically speaking)

neosdark wrote:
I mean he doesn't even want to use the Sturmtiger, and thing wasn't a prototype (technically speaking)

But you will be getting the Brummbär allmost as cool looking as the sturmtiger, atleast the late version is, the early version is nasty.

sounds cool, but like neosdark, i think it might only be allowed as a reward unit. "prototype" and "only five in production" doesn't sound very promising.

Snugz wrote:

neosdark wrote:
I mean he doesn't even want to use the Sturmtiger, and thing wasn't a prototype (technically speaking)

But you will be getting the Brummbär allmost as cool looking as the sturmtiger, atleast the late version is, the early version is nasty.

Not arguing that fact, but he doesn't want the Sturmtiger because it didn't really serve on the Eastern Front, well the Kugelblitz never served anywhere, so ya.

Where is Rommel when you need him to back you up anyway :(

Sturmtiger is a bad concept imo, it looks cool indeed but cmon a rocket shooting tank! Way too prototype and crazy. Settle with the brummbär its just as cool 

neosdark wrote:

Snugz wrote:

neosdark wrote:
I mean he doesn't even want to use the Sturmtiger, and thing wasn't a prototype (technically speaking)

But you will be getting the Brummbär allmost as cool looking as the sturmtiger, atleast the late version is, the early version is nasty.

Not arguing that fact, but he doesn't want the Sturmtiger because it didn't really serve on the Eastern Front, well the Kugelblitz never served anywhere, so ya.

Where is Rommel when you need him to back you up anyway :(

Jeah. I wait with my answer because i hoped that someone else is able to explain my point of view.
I like the Sturmtiger. It is a an amazing weapon BUT it had never served on the eastern front lines against red army troops.
The warshaw uprising was a revolt not a part of the frontline.
And the Kugelblitz; well... It is a strong rumour that a Kugelblitz had fought during the battle of Berlin against red troops.
Perhaps it did but there is no real proof and because of this I dont like to see this anti air tank ingame.
All in all i wont see neither Sturmtiger nor Kugelblitz at the Ostheer ;)

SdKfz 251/20 half-track



Description:
An SdKfz 251 half-track with an infrared searchlight used to designate targets for tanks.

Acquisition:
Upgrade of basic SdKfz 251 after modernisation at the cost of 75 munitions

Abilities:
Set up: the vehicle will lock into position and automatically camouflage itself. Once locked down, it will be able to start designating targets. There is a cooldown time of 15 seconds before this ability can be activated/deactivated.

Designate target (needs to be set up): the half-track will "tag" an enemy vehicle, which will make the vehicle appear in the fog of war. It will be untagged once the half-track is destroyed.

Hrm I must say I like that idea, but for that price (modernization included) I think it should do a little bit more. Perhaps we can use use it as a secondary lock-down point later in the game for advancing armies

I kinda like this thing too :P. But maybe it can detect stealth too. Like the Funkwagen :D. After all its a search light. Maybe whatever ts light targets, the recieved accuracy increases by say, 10%-20%  :P

'bout the Strumtiger, why not have it as a reward unit to replace the Flak-88 for the German defensive doctrine? Instead of having a super long range high powered AT gun, you could have a long range high powered anti-bunker tanks that must set up to fire, like the Nashorn.

I've never seen a Sturmtiger and until now I thought it was just a hoped p Tier, not a rocket shooting Tiger :o :o. Can someone elaborate on this Sturmtiger :P

Imagine a Giant 380mm Naval Mortar on a Tiger.

Or look at this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sturmtiger_2.jpg :P

That'd be a bigger explosion than a ARVE...almost 10cm bigger :o

Wow. That thing is like a Brummbar on crack. And then dilated :P

There were only 19 sturmtigers ever built. So if someone puts it in the game, than for sure it'll be one of those one-time only call-ins. And the devs will really need to find a way to balance it so it isn't too OP, such as in the N44 mod. More than once I turned the tables with 1 sturmtiger in that game.

neosdark wrote:
Imagine a Giant 380mm Naval Mortar on a Tiger.

Or look at this picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sturmtiger_2.jpg :P

More like a 380 mm RW 61 Naval Rocket Launcher on a tiger.

Last edited November 28, 2011 at 11:44 AM by Snugz

Oh blah Snugz its still a 38 cm Naval something ::)

Pretty sure it uses a PewPewGun. You're both wrong.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Pretty sure it uses a PewPewGun. You're both wrong.

+1 ;)

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Pretty sure it uses a PewPewGun. You're both wrong.

U! are wrong! Sturmtiger used a rööööhhhrrrrr-zzzzzzsccccchhhhhhh-krambum gun [german phonetics xD Could be a problem for non-german-reader xDDD]

Well. Back to topic!

Sturmtiger and Kugelblitz are no option at the moment.
When someone try to list the Sturmtiger or Kugelblitz again i will visit him with one of those two weapons at home ;)

Lord wrote:

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Pretty sure it uses a PewPewGun. You're both wrong.

U! are wrong! Sturmtiger used a rööööhhhrrrrr-zzzzzzsccccchhhhhhh-krambum gun [german phonetics xD Could be a problem for non-german-reader xDDD]

Let me do my job as translator: Sturmtiger used a roooooaaarrr swooooosshhhhh kaboooshh gun.

Lord wrote:
Sturmtiger and Kugelblitz are no option at the moment.
When someone try to list the Sturmtiger or Kugelblitz again i will visit him with one of those two weapons at home ;)

OHHHHHH can I come too, I've been dying to try out my EM-2 on somebody that actually moves :D

neosdark wrote:
I've been dying to try out my EM-2 on somebody that actually moves :D

Im scared to think what you've tested it on  :P

MaxiKing6 wrote:
Let me do my job as translator: Sturmtiger used a roooooaaarrr swooooosshhhhh kaboooshh gun.

This must be the advanced part of the German Language class XD

Here I can translate it to Italian: roooooaaarrr swooooosshhhhh kaboooshh

Cranialwizard wrote:
Here I can translate it to Italian: roooooaaarrr swooooosshhhhh kaboooshh

Sounds like the same thing XD  ;D. U guys and your languages  :P

Try sign language  :P

I think we shuld put in the Jagdtiger as  part of the command tree like 6 points a replacement for the king tiger/tiger ace, i tink it used to be in EF but now its gone  ;D or maybe the elifant replacin sumtin else and also the SMK tank for the russians its a tank with 2 turrets it may seem a bit fer fetched or sumtin but its just a suggestion

TERRORTYRANT wrote:
I think we shuld put in the Jagdtiger as  part of the command tree like 6 points a replacement for the king tiger/tiger ace, i tink it used to be in EF but now its gone  ;D or maybe the elifant replacin sumtin else and also the SMK tank for the russians its a tank with 2 turrets it may seem a bit fer fetched or sumtin but its just a suggestion

1. jagdtiger was in EF but was removed. won't be back at the moment (maybe much, much later as replacement for jagdpanther ;)). don't know if there will be any more reward units for PE though  ???
2. elefant will be part of ostheer, so no reward unit for wehr
3. kingtiger - tiger ace is already 1 reward unit for 1 unit and there won't be 2 rewards for 1 unit. and keep in mind that the EF community wanted the tiger ace back
4. smk tank was a prototype tank (1 was built). so no option for EF (unless you want to start the Maus discussion again ::))

TERRORTYRANT wrote:
I think we shuld put in the Jagdtiger as  part of the command tree like 6 points a replacement for the king tiger/tiger ace, i tink it used to be in EF but now its gone  ;D or maybe the elifant replacin sumtin else and also the SMK tank for the russians its a tank with 2 turrets it may seem a bit fer fetched or sumtin but its just a suggestion

OK buddy just so you know, what you should and shouldn't suggest, click on that lovely link that says List of Units that the mods will never ever in a million years add at the bottom of my signature, and then you will know what should and shouldn't be mentioned.

quite a good list i might add.

@neosdark: Not everyone sees your list in yor signature  ;). But I agree

Really, but its so nice and bold and all that.

and you mustn't  forget, underlined.  but you may consider increasing the font size

stealthattack1 wrote:
and you mustn't  forget, underlined.  but you may consider increasing the font size

List of Units that the mods will never ever in a million years add

missed the link part.

stealthattack1 wrote:
and you mustn't  forget, underlined.  but you may consider increasing the font size

Very well gents that I shall do.

Anyway I imagine we should get back on topic.... Somehow

neosdark wrote:

Anyway I imagine we should get back on topic.... Somehow

Once someone suggest somthing we will  ;)

counter sniper?

greater range and LOS, but very slow firing rate?