SP map conversions by MaxiKing6

You did a tank skin? Now that's new to me..

I will think about the map layout tomorrow.

Don't you have access to the donors area? As a translator, i thought you were part of the team... :-\

MaxiKing6 wrote:
You did a tank skin? Now that's new to me..

I will think about the map layout tomorrow.

Oh! Come on, just publish a picture (or PM it to him). He shouldn't miss this masterpiece of yours.

Haha, no. I don't think the devs would appreciate that. Plus it would be out of context, so it wouldn't be so funny.

No, I haven't. I have just access to the Translation subforum. See here:

pariah wrote:
Haha, no. I don't think the devs would appreciate that. Plus it would be out of context, so it wouldn't be so funny.

You're too cruel...
And I don't think the devs would care about any publication on donor boards, but their own.

Cruel? How? ???

And it is sort of their publication, since it was theirs originally. I just edited it.

pariah wrote:
Haha, no. I don't think the devs would appreciate that. Plus it would be out of context, so it wouldn't be so funny.

He is a translator, he already read the line of that unit :P.

O.K., another attempt at Victory Point placement.

Not sure if you want to remove/move some or anything, but i think it's important that the town square have both a Victory Point and a Strategic Point, since it's the pivotal area of the map.

Also i think it's best that there's an odd number of Victory Points, to prevent a prolonged stalemate.

Thank you for your idea pariah, but I think now I figured it out. I always search for a certain kind of symmetry on the maps to make them as balanced as possible.



1,2,3 and 4 represent the bases. VP means victory point, IB indestructible bridge and DB the opposite (actually the should be changed, that DBs are in the middle). Medium fuel points (because I actually never place high fuel points) are represented by the MF.
To reach the symmetry stated above, I will add a fourth bridge. Then, it should work fine. I agree with your idea of the town aquare as the no. 1 chokepoint, that's why I placed one of the VPs there. Now IJoe isn't able to complain anymore (;)), because the players can't be seperated by blowing the bridges up. Maybe I'll also add a fourth and a fifth VP in the south to disburden the north with the bridges.
The map is actually quite symmetric, you only need to change a few details. :)

Last edited April 28, 2011 at 3:39 PM by MaxiKing6

Interesting idea. I would have tried to keep it more similar to the level with the starting positions, but this might just work.

1 Suggestion, though - Maybe either increase the level of the Fuel Point in the North, or decrease the level of the 1 in the South, to increase the value of that far away corner.

Testing the map will give the answers ;)

:'(...Evidentally i am useless now, so don't worry about me. :'( :'( :'(

You're never useless, as you proofed.. ;)

What use am i for map testing? ;) :(

Make sure to replace the Chruch!!! Otherwise you will be able to build airbornes as wehrmacht if you upgrade it.

Your suggestion made my mind spin and come to that idea ;)
And it's great to have someone that always responds on my posts in this topic, no matter how low-prioritized they are  :)

@walki: I did it already ;) Same goes for the townhall.

walki1 wrote:
Make sure to replace the Chruch!!! Otherwise you will be able to build airbornes as wehrmacht if you upgrade it.

Are you sure? I thought that would be tied to the level, like the Cherbourg Forward "Motorpool". :-\

You can always edit the maps. If there are such sp buldings, where you can produce special units, there's always a "normal" counterparty to it, so you just need to replace it.

O.K... So would it be possible to have the Forward "Motorpool" in skirmish/multiplayer or not?

Sure, it is possible.

Cool. I thought you guys said it wasn't in the relevant topic. :-\ So maybe in the future, think you could make a map with that, just to try it out?

You could do one on your own, but I know, your Pc keeps crashing when you try it.
Maybe later. As said, I'm working on conversions AND an EF map.

Yeah, that's cool. It's not in any way important; Just a thought.

An intensive testing with ceph of Vierville just told me to raise the sum of munition on this map. He was near 0 with the ammo upkeep.

just make 2x10mun instead of 2x5mun. And 2 IS-2 will kill any muni economy. At least I had enough to place some mines  ;D

Looking at the picture again:

MaxiKing6 wrote:

I think the middle Munitions point should be +15.

Also, down the bottom, remove some hedgerow to allow more even access to the Munitions point with the enemy equivalent.

good idea pariah, also I'd suggest moviing this middle munitions point closer to the road.

Actually, there were minoe changes to the res layout after I posted this picture (map needed more fuel). Also, there's a passage from the southern HQ to the munition sector at the bottom, which isn't displayed because I'd have to redo the tacmap completely then (a lot of work).
I made each and every path equivalent, don't worry. :)

I'll move the middle munition point further in the streets direction and make it a munition point (high).

good. more munitions means more mines. more mines means we can get more kills  ;D

Lol

Another question: I'm slightly annoyed by the plainsounds. Should I remove them, so there are just the frog- and insectsounds?
Here a sample of both variants:

Last edited April 28, 2011 at 9:26 PM by MaxiKing6

leave it. I love climatic maps  ;)

Ok, thanks for voting, but I wait for others opinion, too. :)

...So how are we supposed to play a .rar file?

It's an archive mate, simply use WinRar or WinZip or whatever you like to extract the two files. I wasn't able to attach the streamed .mp3 files, so you have to extract them. ;)

I don't think i have WinRar nor WinZip... ??? If i do, i've never used them, so i'm not sure what to do... :-\

I'll send you a PM for solving this problem. ;)

Again, sorry for the missing number of updates, but I'm very busy in RL atm so I don't have that much time to waste on mapping  ;)
Expect something.. possibly Carentan.. at the weekend. :)
Stay tuned!

Last edited May 3, 2011 at 8:15 PM by MaxiKing6

Looking forward to it. :) And as always, no hurry. ;)

Update for Vierville:

• Removed the low munition point from the middle and replaced it with a high munition point in the middle of the territory, nearer to the street


• Added some free space around points to improve AI


• Removed the plane and airraid sounds in favour of the insects

I know that Arnhem and Oosterbeek are down, I'll reupload them after reworking the maps.

Last edited May 7, 2011 at 10:04 PM by MaxiKing6

Air raid? Where did you get that sound from?

There are billions of sounds in the ambient folder of the WW2Sound.sga.
One of them was the ambience of mission 2 where you play as Airbornes on Vierville, including plainsounds and airraid sounds.
There are also sounds for barking dogs, loads of sirens and many different wind sounds.
Using the action markers in the WB, you can listen to all that stuff (nah, but nearly every file). You're also able to listen to the unit comments and some jokes, oh yeah, and all the weapon- and vehicle sounds too. Yeahh, V1-loop FTW  ;D

What about the line "They're out there. Can you see?"? I'm pretty sure it was in this level. Is that in your conversion?

No, this is a unit comment and was removed by me when I deleted the m02_vierville_paradrop.scar and all the .lua and .nis files. My map is now just a normal skirmish map. :)

Oh. I always enjoyed that line. :( I guess for realism it's good to have it gone with it being converted to multiplayer, but oh well.

Man, i really want to play that level again now. See if i can listen to the line again. :'(

Maybe later, I'll send it as a .mp3 file to you ;)

You're such a nice guy, Maxi. ;D

I was just thinking if i can remember how to trigger it. I think it's just when you look around the map in the fog of war, isn't it?

By the way, wouldn't it be in German for your version?

From now on, this topic will be stickied ;D!

@blackbishop: Ohhwww man, this is such an incredible honour to me, what have I done that I deserve it?  :D

@pariah: Oh yeah, darn. if you still want it (though it's German, what also sounds pretty badass xD), just send a PM to me ;)

1) Some great map conversions. ;)

2) It really doesn't matter. I have such major cravings right now, i'll totally be playing through all the campaigns again when i can. ;D :'(