SP map conversions by MaxiKing6

I think the bridge maps should get lowest priority! the commissar has spoken :D

^^ I'd really make the water passable, and this map in all its glory.

I'll see what I can do. Now finishing Vierville, then Chambois or Carentan. :)

Hey, i just noticed that Cherbourg isn't an option. Why is that?

Last edited April 16, 2011 at 1:02 PM by pariah

Uhlalala I forgot I have to say  :-[
Adding to the poll.

The AI on Arnhem and Oosterbeck isnt working properly. Most times they are sitting around and doing nothing.

On Oosterbeek the AI should perform properly (it did when I tested the map), on Arnhem I can comfirm
this issue. It's not my mistake, this is because of problems the AI has with pathfinding. If you want to play the maps and have your fun, we could arrenge a MP match on one of them.

on Oosterbeck the AI does cap but most times is standing around even in its base. Same goes for Arnhem. If you compare it to a map like Angoville you will recognize the difference. Its playable but boring.

A MP match would be cool

Ok then suggest one of the maps (doesn't matter if they have been done yet or not) :)

Oosterbeck looks nice! Good choice to try out urban if you play as soviet.

I will host a game with your map 10:00 forum time. Feel free to join


Btw a map with 6players is already done...

I know, but I'm sorry, I can't play this evening, sorry.

MaxiKing6 wrote:
On Oosterbeek the AI should perform properly (it did when I tested the map), on Arnhem I can comfirm
this issue. It's not my mistake, this is because of problems the AI has with pathfinding.

Two tips, which should improve the AI:
1. two free slots around resource points
2. some free space around the HQ

Mystic

Mystic-Car wrote:
Two tips, which should improve the AI:
1. two free slots around resource points
2. some free space around the HQ

Mystic

Something like this was already in my mind, thanks for the hints, I will fix it as soon as I can access my computer again.

Sorry for the missing number of updates, but this week I am working to earn a little amount of money :P

Next week you will see more, featuring Vierville Paradrop, Chambois and Carentan. I'm not only uploading the maps, I am completely redoing them because my conversions from more than a year ago weren't quite balanced. What's also coming: Updated versions of the two previously released maps, featuring a (hopefully) improved AI. See you then  ;)

MaxiKing6 wrote:
Sorry for the missing number of updates, but this week I am working to earn a little amount of money :P

Next week you will see more, featuring Vierville Paradrop, Chambois and Carentan. I'm not only uploading the maps, I am completely redoing them because my conversions from more than a year ago weren't quite balanced. What's also coming: Updated versions of the two previously released maps, featuring a (hopefully) improved AI. See you then  ;)

Take your time :)

But not too much time xD

I would love to see an Arnhem map with the huge bridge separating the to sides. ;D I know this would need to be an independent project but still.....

The bridge is far to high for the camera to display the whole range of units. I even thought about deleting it from the map because it blocks some nices passages to/from the Allied base, but left it because of historical correctness and because it belongs to that map. Now there is one map entry point on the bridge (remember the Allied units coming from there?).
Today I'll continue with Vierville:



What do you think about it?

Last edited April 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM by MaxiKing6

Vierville is looking really nice. :)

that is looking rather nice.  i'll have to download the other two and give them a shot as well.

keep up the good work!

Thank you pariah and jealco. Vierville is done, next will be Carentan.  :)

MaxiKing6 wrote:
Thank you pariah and jealco. Vierville is done, next will be Carentan.  :)

Great. I wonder, if you're going to make the water passable, so it won't be just another bridge map?

What, you want to turn the units into Jesus? ??? :D

pariah wrote:
What, you want to turn the units into Jesus? ??? :D

Don't tell me, you haven't seen the maps with passable water. It would mean you've never played the first CoH campaign.

Yeah, i am fully aware that shallow water is passable, but i don't know how you intend to make the Carentan water passable. It's effectively blocked by the terrain.

pariah wrote:
Yeah, i am fully aware that shallow water is passable, but i don't know how you intend to make the Carentan water passable. It's effectively blocked by the terrain.

Simple - just rise the bottom with leveling tool.

I don't think that would let them cross the concrete, would it? :-\

But either way, i don't think it's a good idea to change that. Maxi and i want to keep the maps as close as possible to the original, so such a big change is too great.

I'm just suggesting, that some changes to eliminate "the bridge element" will only benefit the map, making it actually viable for proper multiplayer.
Surely, it's all up to MaxiKing6.

Yes it is. Maybe if he feels like it, he can make 2 versions - 1 keeping to the original, and 1 leveling out the water.

Chill out lads. Neither Hauptmann Berger nor any Ranger troop is able to walk the water Jesus-like :P
As IJoe said, I'd simply raise the terrain or make the edges a little more plain, just have to have a look at it to see what's possible. I'll tell you later. After Carentan, Chambois or Mortain is coming.

pariah wrote:
Yes it is. Maybe if he feels like it, he can make 2 versions - 1 keeping to the original, and 1 leveling out the water.

Exactly that was my plan.  ;)
An "IJoe special edition against chokepointing and noobing on bridgemaps".

That's cool. I honestly like having to deal with whatever terrain there is. Makes it feel more real. 8)

One more question: Do you want Carentan to be 2p or 4p?



Short screenshot as a help for you to decide.

Last edited April 26, 2011 at 8:29 PM by MaxiKing6

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An "IJoe special edition against chokepointing and noobing on bridgemaps".

Oh! That is so "unhumble" to place my name there, but after all, I deserve it  ;D ;D ;D

Perhaps display a Tactical Map shot of the map, so i can have a better idea of space and distance? ;)

P.S. Yes, you totally do, IJoe. ;D ;D ;D

@pariah: Done (look up)

I can also make a compromise and add some of the undestructable bridges like on Lyon.

I was thinking more like the Tactical Map, but that's cool too. I think 2v2 would be good. IJoe, what do you think?

Here you go pariah:

Haha, i meant with the resources and territory, like Vierville. ;)

No indistructible bridges would be far less than enough, sadly.

Uhh, that's gonna take some time. Just opened Photoshop to do this (because all of my maps deserve a territory sector redistriction). Jusr waited for IJoe to tell me how many players he would like the map to have ;)

@IJoe: You'll have to pay me for your special edition :P

MaxiKing6 wrote:
@IJoe: You'll have to pay me for your special edition :P

4 players
I pay you with my sincere sympathy (ain't that a reward?)  ;D

IJoe wrote:
I pay you with my sincere sympathy (ain't that a reward?)  ;D

I'll see if that's enough to be satisfied lol.
(Honestly this map is gonna be total crap with just the normal bridges.. ;))

MaxiKing6 wrote:
I'll see if that's enough to be satisfied lol.
(Honestly this map is gonna be total crap with just the normal bridges.. ;))

Remember the way the Beatles used to sing:
"...don't care too much for money - money can't buy ... love..."  :P

Love isn't what I exspect of other forum members lol^^

I will make the balanced, bridgeless version, but the "original" that pariah suggested has priority.  :)

You're the boss.  :)
But why remove bridges completely? They can serve as the fastest routes to cross the shallow water. Something like "Kursk" map, though it's not that good - just as an example of what I mean.

Does Kursk have water? ???

He means Prokhorovka.

I have an idea: Both teams start in the town in the south and there's only a victory point on the other side. Comments?

pariah wrote:
Does Kursk have water? ???

Yeah, sorry about that...  :-[
Comment: People will just go killing off each other - why bother going anywhere?

I was thinking 3 Victory Points...

(See picture.)

Lol you're going to be a great artist pariah :P

That was my first idea, but there's a problem. Players 1 and 2 have the advantage, that they have immediate acces to the VPs and 3 and 4 can be easily cut from that by blowing the bridges up. If you have moaaar ideas, just tell me - at the moment I'm the opposite of creative :P

Haha, you liked my tank skin as well? ;D

I did think of that, but i couldn't think of any way around it. I thought of moving the highest V.P. up to the other island, but i wasn't sure if that would work or not... :-\