Sublime EF Shoutcasts & Replaypacks

Snugz wrote:

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Swarm :D

Plan? Swarm! haha epic  ;D

I loled hard when I saw this ;D

just a suggestion for your next shoutcasts
i think its ok to zoom close to a unit if something cool or special happens

but i think you zoom too often for nothing extrem close to a unit which is a bit irritate (maybe only for me?)

but nevertheless im looking forward to your next shoutcast^^

Lol, Splecx= Donthateme

@Stealth & Panzer
I'm considering to move into vCoH shoutcasting too, just so I can broaden the viewership base and possibly raise higher awareness for EF.  I'm thinking of doing something like creating 2 CoH shoutcast playlists in our Sublime Channel.  They'll probably be named Western Front and Eastern Front, and we'll probably release 2 shoutcasts every weekend, with one on each front.

For the Western Front, we'll probably mainly be shoutcasing vCoH games at first (what's the point of shoutcasting EF players when you can use replays from Seph), but because of the reward units for Americans and vanilla Brits, and also to build a greater sense of community, we'll also accept any remarkable EF replays with Western Allies teams.  We still need to test the water with those shoutcasts though, because it seems they are getting less likes, more dislikes, and less views per new shoutcast.  It might be because we need to improve our shoutcasting, or it may be because the fanbase dies down and naturally evens out after a while as expected, or it could just be an increase of haters discovering our casts.  Not to point any fingers at anyone, but I'm certain we do have quiet a few haters.  However, I don't care how balanced the RMC gets.  The saying still stands.  Fuck the RMC.



@Ape
I zoom in on units a lot at the beginning of the game, or when there's not much action going on, and also when we are talking about a specific unit.  For example, that stolen MG42 was very critical that game, so I zoomed in on it.  Other than that, I don't think I really zoomed in anywhere else.  I noticed that other shoutcasters like ImperialDane have skins and also zoom in on the units a lot, but no one ever has a problem with that.  I don't know if you're the only one who has a problem with my zooming.  Anyone else want to second Ape?

Last edited February 15, 2012 at 2:56 AM by Yauz

Yeah probably a few too many zooms. I like to see the flanks happening. Also, when the two sides are building up forces and not attacking, maybe you could open up the tacmap in future too so we can see the defensive line building and unit composition.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Yeah probably a few too many zooms. I like to see the flanks happening. Also, when the two sides are building up forces and not attacking, maybe you could open up the tacmap in future too so we can see the defensive line building and unit composition.

I dont mind the zoom but I second the tactical map idea :D

sorry to keep asking about your skins yauz, but i think they are awsome. where did you get the PE SS troops skins?

OK guys, I'll try to limit my zooming a tad bit more, but honestly, I really like zooming sometimes.  As for the minimap advice, that will definitely be used in our next shoutcast.



@Stealth
My normal PGs are a re-skin of Spaulick's PGs.  I re-colored the uniform and helmet, and then I added the rolled up sleeves by combining it with sapper arms.
The 1st SS Leibstandarte guys were skinned myself, and their equipment are from Crasius's RGO files.

In short, you can find and download Spaulick's PGs here:
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?249031-Spaulicks-Skins-%28updated-31.-July-PE-Grens-and-Mixed-Squad-%29

But the short sleeves for them and the Leibstandarte troops are unavailable.

ok, thanks man.

Since I noticed you were one of the few people to subscribe to the Sublime Channel (the most loyal subscribers are the ones who are there when no one else cares, instead of jumping onto the bandwagon if there are a lot of subscribers), PM me for more info on my skins & sounds.  I will reward you.

Last edited February 15, 2012 at 6:41 PM by Yauz

thanks alot man, i really love the EF shoutcasts, and sublime does a good job doing it, so thats why i subscribed. thanks again, and ill let you nkow about the skins and sounds ;D

stealthattack1 wrote:
thanks alot man, i really love the EF shoutcasts, and sublime does a good job doing it, so thats why i subscribed. thanks again, and ill let you nkow about the skins and sounds ;D

Thanks for the support  8)

Aw...
I want the skin too...
But I am yet have account on Youtube so its okay I guess... :P
Congrats stealthattack1... ;D

After see all of your Vid, I can see how it improve by each vid...
Much like Fish improvement in game... ;D

Some of my critic and suggestion for improvement:
1) Change side can really distract the viewer (other shoutcaster I've seen never change the player they view) I've seen decrease in it lately but I hope you can keep viewing one side.
2) Early on, there always a silent gap that quite uncomfortable, maybe you can fill it by commenting about map, about latest strategy you usually utilize, or anything else. Keep the comment flowing as that is the heart of shoutcast.
3) The zoom is quite okay right now, but to make it more comfortable for viewer, maybe you can point it through some edit (example: Inuki shoutcast has small box down right that sometimes show event on other map side or current event in zoom in version)

Anyway, you've great job for these shoutcasts! ;D

My wrote:
Some of my critic and suggestion for improvement:
1) Change side can really distract the viewer (other shoutcaster I've seen never change the player they view) I've seen decrease in it lately but I hope you can keep viewing one side.

While distracting, it's also crucial. Even with the Fog of War off you can't see enemy positions on the tact-map, and you can't see what the enemies' army is composed of. Switiching sides also allows you to see what's being built or teched to.

My wrote:
After see all of your Vid, I can see how it improve by each vid...
Much like Fish improvement in game... ;D

Thx but I honestly think I got worse since that last game XD. Need more SU practice :P

I agree that you shouldn't switch to pther player AS much. Its good to do it every now and then since it gives you perspective about their resources but not too often as I too was confused for a second (I was like wait, SU went from 400 vps to 150?!?).

I also think you should elaborte on the different strategies that occur over all. You mention them but dont necessarily explain them :P. I only say this b/c maybe new ppl might be watching these games and aren't sure whats going on.

You guys also spent a majority of the time in the middle. TBH most of the acton was there but still, you could venture to the sides every now and then :)

Honestly I haven't seent that many other shoutcasters so I wouldn't know if you dong a bad job in comparision. But great work anywho :D

Cranialwizard wrote:

My wrote:
Some of my critic and suggestion for improvement:
1) Change side can really distract the viewer (other shoutcaster I've seen never change the player they view) I've seen decrease in it lately but I hope you can keep viewing one side.

While distracting, it's also crucial. Even with the Fog of War off you can't see enemy positions on the tact-map, and you can't see what the enemies' army is composed of. Switiching sides also allows you to see what's being built or teched to.

I just based my opinion from three or so shoutcast...
These shoutcasts are the only that do so...
While it is crucial, it kinda disturb the flow with the lag when change faction view and can be annoying...
Pretty much like view a movie and there is a pause...

In other shoutcast, they use:
1) Edited video that show other side view so the flow remain undisturbed
2) Ask the other shoutcaster to state their opinion about what the unseen player state

I find that these method not only make the video keep flowing and critical about gameplay, but also increase the entertainment value...

Though once or twice change in view is acceptable...
It become problem when it change the view more then five times...

Thanks for the feedback guys!

The side change.
The reason why we are often changeing the view to a other player is to give ouer viewers insight on what is happening to the enemy aswell (tech, economy, troops, production ETC)
We want to comment on the whole game rather than on one player when we do a Commentary Shoutcast. All through i agree with you guys, that the side switch was maybe abit too heavy in the latest shoutcast. 1 reason for that is there was 4players in total (alot of shit to keep track of) so it was hard to follow everyone at once. We will in the future try to organize the view for 2v2 casts a little bit better, so that each man follows 1 team so that we can decrease the side change a little.

Early silent gap
Usually theres not much to talk about in the start of the game. We will look into that a little more, and figure something to say that will fill the gap :)


Edited video
We can definately add all the facy edited shit you see in some other casts. The problem is that Yauz is the one who records the games, while im the one with the video editing skills and software. So that means Yauz has to send the whole recording to me wich takes alot of time (big size) We have so far just skipped this whole back and forth process to get the shoutcast edited, but we are looking into it.

Last edited February 16, 2012 at 3:22 AM by Snugz

Hey Ante,

Thanks for pointing those things out.  You have some epic suggestions.  What intrigued me the most was switching sides, and how you said some other shoutcasters have a way that can view everything without switching sides?  If so, I would be very interested to see how they make this possible.  Please give a link if you have it.  This is especially crucial, because I will be doing the tactical map more often now, and it only shows the units on one side of the battle, even with FOW turned off, which is also what Cranial said.

Anyone want to second Ante on us not switching player perspectives?  I need a consensus on this thing, and I'll also ask the question inside our next shoutcast.

Last edited February 16, 2012 at 3:48 AM by Yauz

Thanks to listen to my feedback... ;D
Now for some example:

Inuki: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9x-6phvkA
          Comment: He doesn't cover all of the enemy player data, but his video show stuff that goes unseen when the shoutcaster is focus
                          on one event.

Tales of Heroes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqUl8a-G154&list=PL7526586C871BF82F&index=7&feature=plpp_video
                          Comment: This is a dual shoutcast where both of the shoutcaster comment about the status and strategies of both player
                          also, the best Company of Heroes play I've ever seen.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeDB8Qvpylw&list=PL7526586C871BF82F&index=6&feature=plpp_video
                          Comment: Likewise, this also a dual shoutcast. The primary reason for this one: it is bloody funny... ;D

Those are some example and hope it helps... :)

Thanks Ante we will look at them for some inspiration  :)

You are welcome... ;D

If you guys need something, some kind of intro (I know, you already have one), sounds, etc., you can count on me and my loyal support :)

Hey Maxi, thanks for your support!

We were actually wanting some sort of cinematic before the Sublime Shoutcast Intro scene, but what we want exactly is still being discussed.  We'll be sure to PM you with the specifics once Snugz and I have the time to talk it through.

Hi Sublime, can I ask how a skinpack/sound pack like yours works? Do you simply stick it in your COh folders? Can you only play with other people that have the same skin/sound pack? Also, do you intend on releasing your custom pack at some point in the future? It looks cool :D.

Also what happened to the first two original Sublime videos? I noticed they are not on the first page anymore :P.

Trannyhunterx wrote:
Hi Sublime, can I ask how a skinpack/sound pack like yours works? Do you simply stick it in your COh folders? Can you only play with other people that have the same skin/sound pack? Also, do you intend on releasing your custom pack at some point in the future? It looks cool :D.

Also what happened to the first two original Sublime videos? I noticed they are not on the first page anymore :P.

They were 1.5 videos ;)

Trannyhunterx wrote:
Hi Sublime, can I ask how a skinpack/sound pack like yours works? Do you simply stick it in your COh folders? Can you only play with other people that have the same skin/sound pack? Also, do you intend on releasing your custom pack at some point in the future? It looks cool :D.

Also what happened to the first two original Sublime videos? I noticed they are not on the first page anymore :P.

Hey Fish,
About the skins & sounds, I have mine in SGA format.  They are basically in the Program Files (x86) \ THQ \ Company of Heroes \ WW2 \ Archives folder.  My WW2Art, AttribArchive, WW2Sound, WW2SoundHigh, WW2SoundLow, WW2AxisSpeechEnglish, OFCoreSpeechEnglish, and OFFullSpeechEnglish files are all edited.  I can play 100% with other people in vCoH, but in EF I can only watch replays, and even then I have to do some modding work of my own to get that to function.  I can only release my skins & sound collection privately, friend to friend, since they include a lot of work from different modders, and I have yet to ask permission for a public release.

About the videos, they were removed because they were 1.5 videos as Cranial said, and also because they were our beginning noob shoutcasts where we didn't really know wtf we were doing.  We still have a lot to improve in our shoutcasts, but at least the 1.6 ones had an intro clip and were in HD.  I'm thinking of removing the one with you and Ape after we release the next two casts, since it wasn't in HD.  But don't worry.  One of the upcoming casts contain you as a player.  ;D  We're just waiting for the new intro & outro clips and seeing how the political situation in EF turns out first (don't ask).

EDIT: Maxi has gone above the call of duty and has just sent us amazing intro and outro clips to use for our shoutcasts.  In a maximum of 3 days, you guys will know what I mean.  ;D

Last edited February 22, 2012 at 7:34 AM by Yauz

Yauz wrote:
Hey Fish,
About the skins & sounds, I have mine in SGA format.  They are basically in the Program Files (x86) \ THQ \ Company of Heroes \ WW2 \ Archives folder.  My WW2Art, AttribArchive, WW2Sound, WW2SoundHigh, WW2SoundLow, WW2AxisSpeechEnglish, OFCoreSpeechEnglish, and OFFullSpeechEnglish files are all edited

Sounds complicated :P. I'll just stick to my funky Grenadiers for now ;D

Yauz wrote:
EDIT: Maxi has gone above the call of duty and has just sent us amazing intro and outro clips to use for our shoutcasts.  In a maximum of 3 days, you guys will know what I mean.  ;D

Cant wait to see it :D

Its out.  I gave the subscribers a 24 hr head start before announcing it.

Yauz wrote:
Its out.  I gave the subscribers a 24 hr head start before announcing it.

No wonder there hasn't been a shoutcast in a while :P

I dont think the youtube video in the first page works. I clicked the play button but nothing happens :(

Edit: Oh wait, I take that back :P. I must hace clcked it too many times or something ;D

great into, i love it!

Nice little intro :P. LOL a TV ;D. Nice shoutcast anywho :)

Thanks for the likes and views guys! Yea Tranny you better take that back theres never something wrong with ouer shit. LOL kidding.

And last! Special thanks and courtesy goes out to Maxiking who made us this new awesome fancy intro/outtro  8)

Last edited February 23, 2012 at 8:34 PM by Snugz

Yeah thanks, no problem :D
Awesome shoutcast as usual.
I will send the improved intro to you this evening, Snug ;)

MaxiKing6 wrote:
I will send the improved intro to you this evening, Snug ;)

Epic m8, can't wait to see it!

Awesome shoutcast, your best yet, keep it up! And people, keep sending them epic repays ;D

I was lol'ing about the sniper VS nebel xD

Awesome shoutcast with the latest episode. one question, why didn't the luftwaffe officer use his awesome fire bomb raid? And again, keep up the awesome work. i submit some games, but sadly I don't know when people play online. Does the new chat system the devs added work well for finding games?

My nebel got a lucky shot :P. I think it got like 10-20 kils b4 it got decrewed XD. I should have made panthers though :(. I guess I'll have to play more EF games ;D

@Panzer4life: That Officer was Cranials and Im assuming he didn't use it b/c he forgot it or didnt have the muni. You guys were watching the game from GLD's POV so you wouldn't know but on our side but I think I tried telling him to retreat but it died via flames :P. We were saying some dumb stuff ;D

@Maxi: You got a new icon! :P. Im assuming thats the Sturmpioneer icon? Cant wait to see the new intro  ;)

Panzer4life wrote:
Awesome shoutcast with the latest episode. one question, why didn't the luftwaffe officer use his awesome fire bomb raid? And again, keep up the awesome work. i submit some games, but sadly I don't know when people play online. Does the new chat system the devs added work well for finding games?

I was teching to T4. You have to be Teched up to use it. Unfortunately it got LOL'd before I could use it and my 2nd one got sniped by an IS3  :-X

But I have to say, really, great shoutcast and props for the intro! Plenty of action and a few memorable playful banter:

"I got two flaks, one for each of ya ;)"

Last edited February 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM by Cranialwizard

LOL u had 2 Officers? XD. I didn't even see the 2nd one ;D :P.

@Panzer4life: The chat is only useful if there are ppl to chat WITH ::). IMO there aren't that many ppl in Chat and some of those who are in Chat are only asking tech questions which is not the right place to ask such questions ::). Im sure it'll get better in the next patch :P. When they change the name ofc from Login.

Last edited February 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM by Trannyhunterx

hehe
the flaks were more or less fail^^

and with the officer was also bad luck i think^^

evilSpike wrote:
hehe
the flaks were more or less fail^^

and with the officer was also bad luck i think^^

Well the flaks were a good idea if I had been able to keep my snipers. My mousepad went stupid and I couldn't select them, he gunned down two and I tried to counter the 3rd but it was just too much.

The flaks held back the SU-76s from attacking the Gwags and Stugs and HTs for a while, and it held back the IS-3s for a bit. We needed to place more mines and I need a new mouse ;)

That arty was killing us though. Shows good use of the firebase.

LMG42s are not something you see often in Vcoh but they are very powerful against soviets, especially sturmovie.

All in all fantastic game I felt. An even greater shoutcast! Too much action like you said, I would think it's a 3v3 xD

i know its  OT, but there seems to be an influx of othseer profile pics.

This is good... it means some of us are working :P

stealthattack1 wrote:
i know its  OT, but there seems to be an influx of othseer profile pics.

I think all the devs are having fun with their Ostheer test ;). Temptation at its finest :P

BTW Sublime I notice in your shoutcast description it says "Commentary Shoutcast". Are there other types of shoutcast you intend on doing ???. Just wondering :P

Last edited February 24, 2012 at 3:18 AM by Trannyhunterx

Something I was wondering, why are the devs releasing the avatars of Ostheer infantry units?  ??? Seems kind of odd. Anyway, something for the Sublime crew, if you get to it, make a tutorial for new comers on how to play the soviets. I be willing to play as the Wehr stomped player if you do.

read the post 2 above yours ;)

i think cranial was working on one, but its unconfirmed

Cranial did finish his tutorial. There is a thread about it. Check there ;)

Panzer4life wrote:
I be willing to play as the Wehr stomped player if you do.

I dont think Sublime wants a stomp game :P. I think they want a fair game :P

Sublime Team, Y U No add replay link?

Holy fuck!  I went to university classes for like 1 day and I come back to see so many nice comments!  Thanks for your support guys!

@Fish
So far we've done commentary shoutcasts for 1.6, but we can also do review shoutcasts, to comment on how the requesting player can improve their gameplay.  Remember our first shoutcast with you and Neo?  We're not Seph or any shit like that, but I think review shoutcasts can still serve to help EF noobs.

@Tank
Didn't have time to dig it out because I had to rush to school.  I'll get it up by tomorrow at the latest.

Keep sending us stockpiles of replays guys!  We're getting a little low.

Last edited February 24, 2012 at 7:04 AM by Yauz