Ostheer Update 7: Modernisation

IS3 doesn't take fuel because it is an off-map unit. Like others, it has an inflated MP cost to make up for no fuel cost. It costs 800MP to call in.

IS-3 featured in 1.4?

GodlikeDennis wrote:
IS3 doesn't take fuel because it is an off-map unit. Like others, it has an inflated MP cost to make up for no fuel cost. It costs 800MP to call in.

KT takes 980...
Does that mean, that IS-3 would loose 1v1 to KT?

Haven't tested it yet. However, the 800MP is an upfront cost compared to the KT upfront +MP reduction. Upfront costs are more difficult to achieve. I believe the KT would probably beat the IS3. However, the IS3 can gain vet which would flip the balance around again. Seriously, the thing is beastial.

Also, is it going to be like the Panther ability for the PE? Where you have to get it from a bunch of upgrades?

It's mentioned several times that it is the reward unit for the ISU-152 in breakthrough doctrine.

Oh sorry.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Seriously, the thing is beastial.

AGREE if you can manage to keep it alive its a pain in the ass ;D

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Haven't tested it yet. However, the 800MP is an upfront cost compared to the KT upfront +MP reduction. Upfront costs are more difficult to achieve. I believe the KT would probably beat the IS3. However, the IS3 can gain vet which would flip the balance around again. Seriously, the thing is beastial.

Would be better if that IS would cost 1000, but would actually beat that KT, since that latter has an mg, and thus is harder to circle-strafe by infantry and far more deadly against it (apart from the monstrous gun).

IS3 dominates infantry far harder than KT.

Snug knows it's true power :D.

IS3?



I still remember that burro always liked that idea and considered it. ppl who beleived that the IS3 will never make it in, simply were not long enough active in the forums.


But its a one time per game call in, right? Everything else would make it either OP or it has to be nerfed to historical inaccurate stats. Will the IS3 get JP-armor?

Finally SU gets a TANK.


Regards,
-V-

Last edited May 15, 2011 at 3:41 PM by Venoxxis

It has to be a 1-time call-in. It's too powerful for anything more.

In fact, you could say it's rarer than the Königstiger and Jagdpanther, since it can't be recovered. (I think... Don't know much about the Soviets... :-\)

Yeah, 1 time call in per match, like the KT. Due to its strength, rarity and all round ownage.

Killar wrote:

HerrVoss wrote:
@ evil spike. Yes it is the new king tiger. It is mounted with a heschel turret and looks as if it is in for quit a fight. :o

Are you sure it is the henschel turret?

Yes it is... i'm completely sure ;D. And will be featured in 1.40.

Last edited May 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM by blackbishop

I don't know much about W.W.II, but wasn't the Henschel an aircraft? ???

pariah wrote:
I don't know much about W.W.II, but wasn't the Henschel an aircraft? ???

It's a name.

Yeah, i know - I thought it was the name of a plane. ;)

Lol. It's the name of a German company, Henschel & Son.
They made the plane and the turret and various other things.
Like tanks.  :D

henschel was the name of a german defense contractor

ahh goober was faster^^

Lol.  :)

O.k., thanks guys. :)

There were a few companies in Germany who competed over contracts, Henschel, Porche, Walther, Mauser, Haenel, etc etc. Regarding the Henschel Aircraft, Henschel was the manufacturers name, the name of the actual aircraft was the HS-129... Henschel is just easier to say :P

Ninja'd by everyone, but might as well post too.

I must say This Kv 1 model looks very good is that Burrodiablo work ?

The turret is. The model is from October 2009 so it lacks a little quality over, say, some of the Ostheer models, we plan on remaking all the Soviet models in future to give them full animations so in a years time this model will probably have been replaced with a better one along with many others.

FOR BALANCE, I hope that Centurion Mk1 is existed in UK Army..
Is this impossible ?

You might as well say FOR BALANCE, I hope the Ostheer gets a maus battlegroup. Is this impossible?

Hahaha, ninjad by Dennis  :D

I dont wanna the game is only heavy tanks battle.
As british user , I just say an request that british army no longer depend on PIAT or poor defensive tanks.
For want to fight King Tiger by using Only one Tank

circle strafe KT to death with a cromwell! :P

..or even with a Tetrarch ;)

Tetrarch beats King Tiger

mcgo613 wrote:
I dont wanna the game is only heavy tanks battle.
As british user , I just say an request that british army no longer depend on PIAT or poor defensive tanks.
For want to fight King Tiger by using Only one Tank

Use Fireflies and quit whining. If you're tired of using Piats play Amis.

Cheers.

PS: King Tiger (not sure about how it will pair with IS-3) is the sole most powerful tank in the game. You're not going to be able to fight it off with one tank, not even a Pershing.

@tetrarch hahahah +1  :)

HaHaHa  I give up. I will elevate my tank`s control skill
Looking forward to greatest mod

MaxiKing6 wrote:
..or even with a Tetrarch ;)

Tetrarch beats King Tiger

...And that's why you don't send in the big guns without support. ;D

maybe the ostheer gets a cool special ability or call in tank after all 3 modernisation upgrades like pe with the 2 panthers?

^^ ferdinand (elefant) call-in

thing was a beast  so long as it doesnt break down

Every Ostheer doctrine has something special against tanks (well, at least two of them). One for example has buildable Tiger and Elefant to tackle Allied heavy tanks.
Furthermore, you always have Panther, Marder II and StuG III to deal with beasts like IS-3.

Allied heavy tanks?

- Pershing.
- IS-3. (Sort of...)

...What else is there?

You could consider Fireflies I suppose...those things pack a punch into Wher's armor

Was just an example. Searching for something equal to Panther that Ostheer will have to engage Allied tanks (you may remove the heavy).

pariah wrote:
Allied heavy tanks?

- Pershing.
- IS-3. (Sort of...)

...What else is there?

thats it.

yeah IS-3 is currently the most powerful heavy armor in the allied arsenal, and will continue to be.

the pershing and IS-3 are so mobile though compared to axis armor it makes for exciting and intense super tank battles!

@maxi if you have good micro and a bit of luck you can beat the pershing or is3 with 2 panthers

@RedGuard: Yeah I know, remember my video of KT and TT, that was a good example for both good and bad micro :P

All it takes to beat a heavy are two AT infantry squads, 'cause all heavies, except for panthers (they are heavies in this game IMO, unlike T-34/85), are very slow.

how can i forget! :)

ferdinand or jagpanther which you like best? for tank destroyer

@RedGuard: I'd say Jagpanther, because of it's speed and the completely sloped front armour, but on the other hand side, Elefant has something mystical :D

im going to say(and this is speculation) elefant will be more or less as resilient as KT. but the thing will be so slow you could circle strafe it with a destroyed engine churchill! :o

I hope not that is-3 becomes too powerful in the game. when the gun is the same as is-2. so in my opinion, is-2 and 3 should have the same states.
both is-2 and 3 + isu-122 self-propelled gun use the same gun 122 mm M1931/37 (A-19).


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iosif_Stalin_tank#IS-2)
" the A-19 had very good armour penetration, similar to that of the effective 75 mm high velocity gun mounted on the German Panther.
the A-19 gun was unable to penetrate the glacis plate of the Panther at any distance, and could only penetrate the bottom front plate of the hull at 100 m.
It was however the large HE shell the gun fired which was its main asset, proving highly useful and destructive in the anti-personnel role.
The size of its gun continued to plague the IS-2, and the two-piece ammunition was difficult to handle and slow to reload (the rate of fire was only about two rounds per minute). "

so in a one on one kt vs Is-3, I think the tiger would win.
still nice tank ;D

guys the IS-3 is totally balanced, every dev and balance expert here will agree with me

dont start trolling the ost update pls! :)

88 armor-piercing round was unable to penetrate IS-3 frontal armor from 100 meter distance.  ::)
while high explosive shells 122mm rounds didn't really need to penetrate KT - is would simply kill everyone inside on impact. And there were AP 122mm rounds as well. Indirect fire on distances up to 5km, direct (straight-line fire) up to 1km with staring velocity of about 750m/s.
Overall: IS-3 was the best ever tank of the entire war. And reliable as well.  ;)

IJoe wrote:
88 armor-piercing round was unable to penetrate IS-3 frontal armor from 100 meter distance.  ::)
while high explosive shells 122mm rounds didn't really need to penetrate KT - is would simply kill everyone inside on impact. And there were AP 122mm rounds as well. Indirect fire on distances up to 5km, direct (straight-line fire) up to 1km with staring velocity of about 750m/s.
Overall: IS-3 was the best ever tank of the entire war. And reliable as well.  ;)

i doubt that