Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH

IMHO Wehr and US don't need replacement units/abilities.

Seeme wrote:
What happens if your units aren't on your base?

then theyve' got the wrath of hundreds of 1500KG bombs.

Big red button it is then!

didnt have time to go through the whole thread but i think i have some suggestions to make.

UK's Stuart could get the M3 Lee/Grants to replace the stuart but with more balancing required like make it more expensive since they were widely used by the british.

the m22 could replace the tetrach as it was designed and the vickers 6 ton replacing the bren gun carrier

the m8 greyhound or 57mm airdropped AT gun could get the m24 chaffee perhaps? i know the chaffee is rather overpowered tank for airbornes but it gives the US airborne doctrine a little bit more versatility as well as a proper light tank as they dont seem to get one other than staghound/greyhound

In my opinion British reward units need a bit or re-organising same as the SAS/Commando trees.

This being
-The changing of the Staghound from the C/Command Tank to the Stuart.
-And the Kangaroo from the Cromwell to the C/Command tank

This means that you have the choice of using a infantry boosting APC or a Tank enhancer and opens up the Cromwell to a different rewards unit such as the Crusader etc

Raider217 wrote:
In my opinion British reward units need a bit or re-organising same as the SAS/Commando trees.

This being
-The changing of the Staghound from the C/Command Tank to the Stuart.
-And the Kangaroo from the Cromwell to the C/Command tank

This means that you have the choice of using a infantry boosting APC or a Tank enhancer and opens up the Cromwell to a different rewards unit such as the Crusader etc

i don't think that's gonna happen. it would mean big changes (having both kangaroo and cromwell at the same time...). rebalancing the vcoh factions is finished as far as i know.

Last edited September 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM by Ghost

Ghost wrote:
i don't think that's gonna happen. it would mean big changes (having both kangaroo and cromwell at the same time...). rebalancing the vcoh factions is done as far as i know.

Exactly. They old factions will only gain new reward-units (that's the topic, btw  ;)) and balancing. Balancing is done according to a few guys over from Gamereplays.com, because they really know how CoH has to balanced in order to ensure a great gaming-experience.  :)

I'd like Sexton replacing Priest.
And Priest replacing Callioppe ;)

I think british staghound should be shot in the head :p

Loupblanc wrote:
I'd like Sexton replacing Priest.

+1 id really want to see Sexton with its mobile 25pdr, rather than 105 of Priest

+1 to eithier Bishop of Sexton replacing the Priest.

I've not read the thread from end to end, so apologies if someone suggested this.

The brits landed in normandy with a vehicle called the 'dingo'. This was at one stage a vehicle that found a break out point during the battle and holds some historical note in terms of normandy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Dingo

The vehicle itself might be viable for being a reward unit replacement for the bren carrier (if the game can support that..)

The vehicle had a bren, but was know for also sometimes having a Boys AT gun or a Vickers K.

In terms of game theory, I don't think they fitted a second gun, so perhaps it should be more of a scouting vehicle that can take points in terms of CoH.

AdmV0rl0n wrote:
I've not read the thread from end to end, so apologies if someone suggested this.

The brits landed in normandy with a vehicle called the 'dingo'. This was at one stage a vehicle that found a break out point during the battle and holds some historical note in terms of normandy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Dingo

The vehicle itself might be viable for being a reward unit replacement for the bren carrier (if the game can support that..)

The vehicle had a bren, but was know for also sometimes having a Boys AT gun or a Vickers K.

In terms of game theory, I don't think they fitted a second gun, so perhaps it should be more of a scouting vehicle that can take points in terms of CoH.

+1

That's actually a really interesting suggestion, i can see a lot of possibility for including it.  I imagine something that can be upgraded to carry an anti-tank gun (an early game anti-tank gun is something the British desperately need) and also be given a few interesting special abilities to represent the radio set. 

Loupblanc wrote:
I'd like Sexton replacing Priest.
And Priest replacing Callioppe ;)

Sexton could be a reward-unit for Priest. But it'll never replace it.

EF is meant to be an CoH-expansion. And like former, official, expansions, it has some balance-patches included.
However, it'll not change anything except it's really needed, a thing which I can't see with lacking (goddamn) "realism".

Daimler Dingo is really a reward-unit which is worth to be added. With anti-tank-rifle upgradeable, it's also something alongside the Bren-carrier's anti-armor MG-ammunition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Armoured_Car
This is the vehicle you're talking about, and mean.
The Daimler_Dingo would be a reward unit replacement
for the Bren Carrier. The Daimler_Armored_Car would
either replace the StagHound (which ought to replace
the Stuart, in my humble opinion). Or The Stuart.

The Sexton would be a REWARDS unit replacement for
the Priest.

I never understood the rationale for putting Stuart
and Priest in British Army. Sherman-Firefly, FINE. Because
it was so popular. I'd maybe put a max cap of 4 ? Though.

* Sherman Jumbo should Reward Replace the Crocodile.
* Sherman 105 should lose the crunch shovel, and replace
the Callioppe. (Reward Replace damn you)

Loupblanc wrote:

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* Sherman Jumbo should Reward Replace the Crocodile.
* Sherman 105 should lose the crunch shovel, and replace
the Callioppe. (Reward Replace damn you)

+1
Or the sherman Jumbo can be buffed a little to replace the pershing and give some love to the crocodile ;D.

- I feel Sherman Jumbo should be a reward unit for
Crocodile. Ought to have a cap of 1, and have heavy
Crush. It was more plentiful than the Pershing.
- Sherman Crocodile should have it's 75mm back :D
(But be more expensive, and have cap of 1 or 2)
* If Sherman 105mm is WAY more powerful than Sherman
Crocodile, then this would help rebalance things. They'd
need an up-cost, though.
* Sherman 105mm doesn't need a shovel. It's a StuH42
for crissakes :) Just blast dragon's teeth away!
* Sherman 105 should still be a reward unit for Callioppe.

Hey, I am digging this out to suggest like the guys before to swap the Sherman 105 with the Jumbo Sherman as reward units and replace the Jumbo' modell with the better one, made by Halftrack

http://forums.theguidestone.com/showthread.php?248022-HTs-amp-TDs-3D-Factory-new-custom-models-M5-3inch-AT-Gun

Wow,there's an awful lot of awesome models there. Any chance that some of these units might be included as reward units or in the OH? That Grille for example could be a great Hummel replacement.

Analpirat wrote:
Wow,there's an awful lot of awesome models there. Any chance that some of these units might be included as reward units or in the OH? That Grille for example could be a great Hummel replacement.

Sherman 105mm - Already on EF, but don't know if it's the same we have.
Sherman "Jumbo" - Same than Sherman 105.
M36 - Already on EF, but AFAIK just as a temporary replacement of M10 that already has a reward unit.
Wespe - Not used.
Henschel KT - Already discussed, besides the Tiger Ace will be the reward of KT.
M5 ATG - Not used.

I dont want new units, just replace the existing jumbo from loran with Halftrack's one. I think, that the 105 is already from Halftrack...

blackbishop wrote:

Analpirat wrote:
Wow,there's an awful lot of awesome models there. Any chance that some of these units might be included as reward units or in the OH? That Grille for example could be a great Hummel replacement.

Sherman 105mm - Already on EF, but don't know if it's the same we have.
Sherman "Jumbo" - Same than Sherman 105.
M36 - Already on EF, but AFAIK just as a temporary replacement of M10 that already has a reward unit.
Wespe - Not used.
Henschel KT - Already discussed, besides the Tiger Ace will be the reward of KT.
M5 ATG - Not used.

Oh sorry, I meant Wespe not Grille. Do you mean you will remove the M36 again? That'd be sad, more variety is always welcome(if properly executed).
As to the Suggestion of replacing the 105 Sherman with the Jumbo, why'd anyone pick the Jumbo over the Croc or 105? The Croc is dedicated AI and so is the 105, why have another allround Sherman beside the normal Sherman? (though I will say I don't think anyone will pick the Jumbo over the Calliope either)

Would the M36 fit as reward unit for the pershing?

blackbishop wrote:
Would the M36 fit as reward unit for the pershing?

i was thinking the same thing  ;)
i guess it would fit. maybe bigger range or damage or piercing and less armor. something like that...

blackbishop wrote:
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Henschel KT - Already discussed, besides the Tiger Ace will be the reward of KT.
M5 ATG - Not used.

You guys figured out how to do a 2nd reward? damn great news, if so. Henschel KT is a really beatiful monster. Would also make more ppl stick with the KT. great idea imo.

Hell yea, i will love the comback of the ace..


Regards

blackbishop wrote:
Would the M36 fit as reward unit for the pershing?

In it's current form? Then I guess it'd have to be much cheaper than the Pershing and you would have to be able to call in 2 of them? Maybe if it had around Sherman health, the option to upgrade with .50 cal and Panther or Firefly range +sufficient speed then I'd see how to justify the Pershing price tag +and only 1 time call in.

Venoxxis wrote:

blackbishop wrote:
[...]
Henschel KT - Already discussed, besides the Tiger Ace will be the reward of KT.
M5 ATG - Not used.

You guys figured out how to do a 2nd reward? damn great news, if so. Henschel KT is a really beatiful monster. Would also make more ppl stick with the KT. great idea imo.

Hell yea, i will love the comback of the ace..


Regards

I mean, this was already discussed an was the answer was no, because will be the same unit without balance changes. Besides, there's no need for making the Henschel KT a reward unit for the Porshe KT because it will be the Tiger Ace.

Analpirat wrote:

blackbishop wrote:
Would the M36 fit as reward unit for the pershing?

In it's current form? Then I guess it'd have to be much cheaper than the Pershing and you would have to be able to call in 2 of them? Maybe if it had around Sherman health, the option to upgrade with .50 cal and Panther or Firefly range +sufficient speed then I'd see how to justify the Pershing price tag +and only 1 time call in.

Not in their current form, because by now is intended to fill the role of the wolverine.

I thought, that you I include the fix for the misfire bug of the M10?

I posted the link and you said, it will be in  :-\

What about a reward unit representing either the Asian American 442nd Infantry Regiment or some of the African American Units that fought inn Europe during World War II(Maybe as reward factions). They have not been featured(or even mentioned) in most of the World War II games I have played.(I think there was a level in a CoD Game I played on the PS2 when your playing as a tank crew in a African American Tank Division)

I would also suggest a squad of US Marines as a replacement for the rangers; but they didn't fight in Europe. (Although they probably would have been deployed if the war lasted longer in Europe than it did in the Pacific;but that is just me being theoretical and plus they haven't been featured in any released mods so far.)

Last edited January 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM by (2142)Gen.Reaper

(2142)Gen.Reaper wrote:
(I think there was a level in a CoD Game I played on the PS2 when your playing as a tank crew in a African American Tank Division)

I would also suggest a squad of US Marines as a replacement for the rangers; but they didn't fight in Europe. (Although they probably would have been deployed if the war lasted longer in Europe than it did in the Pacific;but that is just me being theoretical and plus they haven't been featured in any released mods so far.)

The CoD game you are talking about is CoD:Finest Hour, my personal favorite one. You get to play as a African American Tank CO.

Anyway the Marines won't be in, because as you said, THEY DIDN'T SERVE IN EUROPE, so not a possibility.

Anyway i was thinking about Airborne Assualt squads,something like:

Airborne Assault squad- A 4 man squad armed with M1928 Thompson SMGs, that is para-dropped into visible territory, they come with Satchel Charges, Fired Up, and can use Mk2 Grenades (w/ upgrade of course), and gets an upgrade for the Cutts Compensator, increasing accuracy or a drum magazine for extra rounds

The idea is to have an Assault squad instead of a AT squad (at least that is how i see the regular Airborne).