THQ will develop a new Company of Heroes game

the true sight sounds also like MoW for me but im fine with this
what i realy dislike are tanks which can be captured and that your inf can die in the snow

at least there will be also summer maps so i see that 99% of all games will be played on these maps because you dont need a fireplace there to keep your inf alive which means less micro on these maps

Can't quite understand why people have issue with the whole taking of tanks. As a whole it first requires tanks to be abandoned. Which is a critical akin to Damaged engine or gun. And probably a bit rarer. So it's not going to happen with every tank.

And then will follow a battle as both sides actually try to aqquire it. Never mind that just like with an AT gun, either side could just wreck it fully. So i am having a hard time understanding people's resistance to the idea :) As far as i can see it adds some interesting depth and mirrors what happened in the war without going fully nuts with it.

As for true sight. Should be more fun, hopefully means less silly jedi snipers, "you can not see me despite the fact i am in the middle of a road" but also means that tank rushes will be a bit more limited, makes recon more important and ditto with tank and infantry cooperation. So as far as i can see, it adds tactics and depth, and hopefully stays simple. Unlike MoW. Lots of good ideas, lots of dodgy execution too though.

oh i was under the impression that a flamer could kill a crew of a full health tank and then you can steal it. Just like an atgun. If thats not like that then it could be interesting. THx for clarification Dane!

Nah :) From what i know, that might apply to stuff like open topped vehicles, SU-76s, and so on. But not a T-34 or anything like that. Essentially things you'd keep at the rear anyways.

We don't really know the full details of everything, but if something sounds a bit too extreme. Then that's usually because someone missed the actual nuances at play. Try reading the verge interview, they're not applying the sledgehammer approach to this and will be constantly finetuning all of this :)

As it is, i imagine tanks will receive some rework since we already know they will have limited line of sight, i also imagine side armour being added in and probably some improved hull and co-axial Mgs. Though that is speculation.

But if that was your line of thinking, i can understand why you were put off the thought of capturing tanks if flamethrowers could do all that :P But again, if something sounds as extreme as that, then it means someone has missed all the nuances.. or is lying to you ;) .. Probably a MoW Fanboy undercover >.>

As long as i will be able to upgrade my stug with "Ostketten" to drive faster through snow im happy :)



(this stug was found in russia and had still its original paint and markings. As it did rot for some years under the sky in a russian military base it was repainted because of rust and some damage done by the soldiers.)

"McDermott demonstrates a returning unit from Company of Heroes, the BM-13 Katyusha."

...Wat? I guess EF has more people watching than we may have thought. :)

Not sure if we get Ostketten or what. Certainly wider tracks have been mentioned as a soviet advantage. Then again, depending on the level of customization doctrine wise and such. it could be an option for some players.

As for the return of the Katyusha.. My guess it is a witless Journalist referring to the Calliope. Good rule of thumb when it comes to the majority of game journalists.. They have their heads up their arses. Which is why you read as many previews as possible ;)

By the looks of the picture released on Facebook today I assume the Russian liberation
army will be in the game to some extent check out patch on dead soldiers arm looks
exactly like RLA patch ive seen in pictures plus its clear of snow so u can see it.
Might be just something for campaign but still interesting.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=451563858207946&set=a.445874815443517.106976.121191071245228&type=1&theater

Well seeing as there have been concept art for them as well, showing them in winter and summer gear. I suspect we'll see more to them. Some sort of Volksgrenadier equivalent is pretty likely.

Landser? :D

By which you mean ? :P Landser was basically a term of endearment for the basic German soldier. A bit like the brits called their tommies, the yanks their GIs and so on.

More likely those russians could be called either Ost-truppen or Hiwis.

If anyone is interested in another interview made about CoH2 to the Dev team, here it is: http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2012/08/p32-company-of-heroes-2/

"I can confirm you be able to play multiplayer as the German Third Reich and the Soviet Red Army"

Ugh... thanks for that priceless info, thanks.

Actually again there was nothing told new, except that they failed to interpretate the role of multiplayer games correctly. It might be true that alot of campaign games are played, but thats not what keeps a community alive.
Or he said that because he was the lead campaign designer.

I think the secret for the longevity of coh has been it can be modified.If they fail to make coh2 modable I think they will meet with very limited sucess.Just my observation.

I agree with bangalor. So many mods have come out for COH and thats what keeps it interesting. Tournaments get boring after a while. With mods it keeps the franchise going that much longer.

They've expressed love for the mod community in the past so I assume modding will be allowed. The engine really doesn't look like it's changed much underneath the snow, and the franchise has a big enough fan base with plenty of modding enthusiasts that community made mod tools are surely to spring up eventually if Relic fails to deliver anything official. Hell, the existing mod tools could probably be modified allow CoH2 modifications.

The July issue of PCPowerPlay (Australia's premier PC gaming publication) Had a massive review of CoH2... And that's not all, the EF Mod actually recieved a mention in the article, and not an off-hand one either! According to the production leader interviewed, they are well aware of the EF mod, and many have actually played it! They also say that the EF mod 'influenced' their design process. The guy does go on to claim that in one of the last patches made for CoH, they intentionally added tweaks to make the Mod teams job 'easier' (From what I've seen on these forums that part is debatable).

Here is a link to the 'cover' of that issue: http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/2012/06/pcpp205-on-sale-june-20/

There are ways to access specific articles... But I haven't been able to figure out how (so no direct-to-quote link, sorry).

There is one last bit of semi-related news in the same mag issue... There was another major article done on another massive modding project - "Tamriel Rebuilt" (Of which I have the honour of being involved with - the Oblivion "Hammerfell Project" spin-off anyway...). Why do I mention this? Because EF might just be on a large enough scale to receive similar treatment... Maybe... I think it would take action on the EF dev-teams part... Assuming said dev-team is even interested in seeking/receiving such publicity...

But anyway, even a minor 'mention' like this was worth making some fuss over in my mind...

~JD

@Killar: He wasn't talking about longetivity of the community. He was talking about how most of those who actually bought the game only played Singleplayer. Rather vital difference there.

Usually you only hear about multiplayer and all that. But the people who just play singleplayer are far from a minority. I believe that was more his point :)

Imperial wrote:
Usually you only hear about multiplayer and all that. But the people who just play singleplayer are far from a minority. I believe that was more his point :)

I agree with this statement. Plus if you have no internet access you can play vs comp :P

The current issue is we're basically relying on Gaming journalists. Not the most reliable bunch in the world. So one has to sift through a lot of replays. Two just popped up which rather threw in some new details on maps and coldtech for example. Plus another interview with Quinn-

Plus one dev popped up on Gr.org (sigh) and tried to point out that CoH 2 was CoH with some of the rougher edges removed. Which is of course pretty damn hard for us to verify at the moment :P

3 map types seem to have been confirmed. Summer, spring and winter it seems.

Just wish we could get some gameplay footage. I mean it sounds bloody exciting when you have someone like Quinn talking about it. but i'd sure as hell rather see and hear it myself :)

I think they're just trying to "hype it up" per se. But I think ppl will begin to lose interest if we dont see some more gameplay soon :P. Or at least a better video than just the trailer.

I want autumm! <3

Some new info:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkB4wXZ9YB0&feature=related

EDIT: Something sneaky here at 3:10:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppn21bVSm5Y&feature=relmfu

Last edited August 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM by Walki

A couple of articles, courtesy of Pariah:

http://au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/company-of-heroes-2/1225779p1.html
http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/08/17/company-of-heroes-2-small-tweaks-make-big-differences

lets take a look what the new pics tells us^^


we see in the front a german stug III
around the stug there are many german solders (i think they are the main inf of relics ostheer)
so lets call them for now landsers^^

behind them are 2 panzer IV

but when you look in front of the first panzer IV there are on the left and the right something that looks like an officer
maybe a new 2men squad? or an upgrade for existing squads? we will see XD



what we see here?
first of all we see one of our nice big cats XD an ostheer panther :D

what we see next?
2 kind of axis soldiers
the ones on the front with k98, the ones at the right side looks like close combat units with mp40

Those uniforms are so weird O_O

It's relic's attempt to make it easy to play. The reason Volks and Grens for example are weirdly colored is because Relic wanted to make it easier to tell them apart.

Yeah but this color pattern is just freaky O_o. At least Grens and Volks were similar color. And grey which made sense (sorta)

So I heard snow isn't actually just something for the looks but kills your soldiers over time if you leave them exposed. D:
Anybody else heard that?

Yes, in fact, somebody mentioned that fact a bunch of times in this very thread, CER10TY...

EasyCalic wrote:
Yes, in fact, somebody mentioned that fact a bunch of times in this very thread, CER10TY...

Really? I must've missed that.
I blame it on not having slept for 16 hours now. :P

Well just weather in general can effect troops. At least thats what I thought. Maybe it is just snow.

Sir wrote:
Well just weather in general can effect troops. At least thats what I thought. Maybe it is just snow.

Afaik there's only snow in CoH 2 as possible weather which can evolve into snowstorms and all that. Seems like an interesting thing.

and as you can see the ui looks pretty similar to coh1

Replying to Apemen:
The StuG could be a III or a IV, we cannot accurately tell from this picture. That means that it could very well be the same model as the CoH StuG (like the other German vehicles will probably be). Also, the gray-top troops in the first picture are seen exclusively wielding kar98s. However, in the second one, they are seen with a mixture of kar98s, mp40s, and what looks like either a PzB39 or an MG34. This is in contrast to the brown-tops, who are not present in the first picture, and present in the second only wielding kar98s. This leads me to believe that the brown-tops may well be the new volks (tier 1 infantry), while the gray-tops are the gren replacement (tier 2) and can purchase weapon upgrades.

CER10TY wrote:Afaik there's only snow in CoH 2 as possible weather which can evolve into snowstorms and all that. Seems like an interesting thing.

No. In CoH 2 we will see 3 kind of seasons in different maps:

Winter Maps
Spring Maps
Autumn Maps

(source CoH 2 official forum)

higher quality of this pic :D

Trooper425 wrote:
Replying to Apemen:
The StuG could be a III or a IV, we cannot accurately tell from this picture. That means that it could very well be the same model as the CoH StuG (like the other German vehicles will probably be). Also, the gray-top troops in the first picture are seen exclusively wielding kar98s. However, in the second one, they are seen with a mixture of kar98s, mp40s, and what looks like either a PzB39 or an MG34. This is in contrast to the brown-tops, who are not present in the first picture, and present in the second only wielding kar98s. This leads me to believe that the brown-tops may well be the new volks (tier 1 infantry), while the gray-tops are the gren replacement (tier 2) and can purchase weapon upgrades.

Its clearly a stugIII if you know your tanks  ;). The PzIV, Panther Tiger tanks look to have the same models as vCOH and there is even a wreck of a recently destroyed Sdkfz250. It's interesting to see that tanks like the T34 have different skins/stowage although the question is how that is controlled. As for uniform colours, the pre-release vCOH pictures showed many differences to the released product, so I'd wait till we see the final ones.

ApeMen wrote:
lets take a look what the new pics tells us^^


we see in the front a german stug III
around the stug there are many german solders (i think they are the main inf of relics ostheer)
so lets call them for now landsers^^

behind them are 2 panzer IV

but when you look in front of the first panzer IV there are on the left and the right something that looks like an officer
maybe a new 2men squad? or an upgrade for existing squads? we will see XD



what we see here?
first of all we see one of our nice big cats XD an ostheer panther :D

what we see next?
2 kind of axis soldiers
the ones on the front with k98, the ones at the right side looks like close combat units with mp40

Vehicles look OK.  The uniforms look like baby suits though.  All that's missing is the bib!

You're right Zerstorer, we can tell. My apologies Ape.

Only during blizzards really.

As for the troops. The ones in green are ROA troops, that is. Russian Liberation army. As for the green, ease of unit identification, plus i doubt the Germans are going to give any uniforms suited towards winter to their russian allies :P

But a ton of stuff in those screenshots. Got stuff like those chaps with the Gewehr 43s and Panzerfausts, rather reminds me of PE Panzergrenadiers, so let's call them that. Got people with white helmets in the background and panzerfausts as well, let's call them Pioneers because i recall earlier images with them equipped with MP40s. Though that seems like an Upgrade.

You've got another image showing off a light halftrack for the wehrmacht as well.

Plus one preview seems to confirm the SU-85 for the soviets.

http://uk.media.pc.gamespy.com/media/133/133759/imgs_1.html

Here are some nice pictures. From these ones, i can say that animations of infantry seem to be same, even mortar crew is very similar.

Is that suppost to be like.. Furr collars? Look weird ;S And panthers? I thought it would be 1941 ?

Sommarkatze wrote:
Is that suppost to be like.. Furr collars? Look weird ;S And panthers? I thought it would be 1941 ?

lol we had Pershings in 1944 France in CoH1, it would be nothing new but Relic has already stated that the game will take you from 1941-1945, from the German invasion to the ultimate victory in Berlin.

Sommarkatze wrote:
Is that suppost to be like.. Furr collars? Look weird ;S And panthers? I thought it would be 1941 ?

It's through the entirety of the Eastern Front, 41-45.

And we don't know when Multiplayer is set. But a lot of the equipment seen so far would fit the 1943-44 bill so far.

Possibly it's like in RUSE where you can choose the age

or in the tiers you have a kind of research for the year to unlock later produced units

Not likely .Would rather go against the Authenticity. More like it's either one period. Or they have set periods so you can play different ones. Like 1941-42. 1943 and 1944-45. That would be a cool option and could allow 2 armies. But essentially due to how they operated during the different periods. You'd have six different armies.

But so far it looks like most of the equipment is of the 1943-44 variety.