[Final] Lemberg (4)

I'll move both onto the railroads.

Sounds good.

Lemberg 2.0 coming next weekend, thanks to Sylver for his hints.

What a pretty + serine map ^-^.

How is it that your pics have a relic logo in the corner :P ?

Pls send this map to us :)

Sorry for the waiting time, Lemberg v2 is 50% done. Sure, I'll send the map to you as soon as it's done.

Nice map!

Yes I know, some months have passed since I started Lemberg and initially released it. Today, on St Nicholas' Day, I want to make all of you who like Lemberg a present. Lemberg 2.0 is finally there. I invested much time in mapping on the passed three days and I hope this effort will pay off.

I started overworking Lemberg because of one simple reason. Critics, constructive critics, mainly by Sylver, who gave me some nice tips on how to improve gameplay and performance of Lemberg. Following his hints, I increased the map's width (former width was 224, now it's 320), relocated the HQs and improved the map's performance by removing one tile.

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Lemberg 2.0 in facts

Map Size:  320 x 448
Territories: 25 (excluding HQ sectors)
- Manpower ressource points: 10
- Munition points: 4 x 10 + 4 x 5 = 60
- Fuel points: 2 x 10 + 5 x 5 = 45
Victory points: 3

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Pictures

Updated minimap + sector layout


Updated loading screen


A new house is built next to an existing one to form a farm.


Extended castle hill


Some new fields


Additional bridge across the crossable creek


Expansion to the West


Same motive, other direction


An old family house in the forest


New southern hill

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Last edited December 6, 2011 at 9:24 PM by MaxiKing6

thanks for the awsome map!

Imma wait for it to be in 1.6 ^^

Excellent work as always Maxi. The changes are good for making it a little more competitive, especially the width. There sure are a lot of strat points though, perhaps too many.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Excellent work as always Maxi. The changes are good for making it a little more competitive, especially the width. There sure are a lot of strat points though, perhaps too many.

I also have to agree with that :P.

Yea nice work Maxi, Lemberg 2.0 looks awesome! The sector layout looks interesting, but i don't like those square/boxy sectors. I think it would look better if they were smoothed abit.

Thanks for your feedback so far. I'm neither a balancer nor an expert player, so please excuse the sector layout. Maybe the Balance Team can elaborate a better solution.  :)

Snugz wrote:
Yea nice work Maxi, Lemberg 2.0 looks awesome! The sector layout looks interesting, but i don't like those square/boxy sectors. I think it would look better if they were smoothed abit.

the boxy helps you think about where you can cut sectors...

Will it be included in 1.6?
Looks awesome BTW.

Of course it will.

MaxiKing6 wrote:
Thanks for your feedback so far. I'm neither a balancer nor an expert player, so please excuse the sector layout. Maybe the Balance Team can elaborate a better solution.  :)

Already working on it. How big is the playable area? I wonder if a 3vs3 would fit it better

MaxiKing6 wrote:
Map Size:  320 x 448

... is meant to mean the playable area. I also thought about making it a 3vs3.

Something like this?

Killar wrote:
Something like this?

Yea something like that  :)

I could do that, but first of all, we need a concept which is generally accepted so that I don't have to do as much work as I had to do with Kalach.. ;)

MaxiKing6 wrote:
I could do that, but first of all, we need a concept which is generally accepted so that I don't have to do as much work as I had to do with Kalach.. ;)

Well the Kalach changes were only possible because of multible test games. You cannot make it perfect in the first place.

Btw. the pic i posted was a ingame screenshot :P

Good job!

I think I would rather keep it as a 2v2 but change the sector layout a little. It only looks large because there are too many points IMO. How about this suggestion? It basically removes 4 of the unnecessary strat points and lowers map fuel by 5.

The middle of the map needs a few things. For one, the VP and muni point have to balanced for both sides. Second, more cover needs to be added on the North-East facing of the station, where the road is. Flanks there look unattractive because of the open roads. Just a couple craters/cars/wagons needs to be added.

Last edited December 8, 2011 at 4:39 AM by GodlikeDennis

Killar wrote:

MaxiKing6 wrote:
I could do that, but first of all, we need a concept which is generally accepted so that I don't have to do as much work as I had to do with Kalach.. ;)

Well the Kalach changes were only possible because of multible test games. You cannot make it perfect in the first place.

Btw. the pic i posted was a ingame screenshot :P

I know, you can't reach perfection in the first stage, but remember how often I had to edit Kalach.. was around 8 or 9 times.. :P

donthateme wrote:
Good job!

Thanks!

GodlikeDennis wrote:
I think I would rather keep it as a 2v2 but change the sector layout a little. It only looks large because there are too many points IMO. How about this suggestion? It basically removes 4 of the unnecessary strat points and lowers map fuel by 5.

The middle of the map needs a few things. For one, the VP and muni point have to balanced for both sides. Second, more cover needs to be added on the North-East facing of the station, where the road is. Flanks there look unattractive because of the open roads. Just a couple craters/cars/wagons needs to be added.

Agreed. First, I will change the cover around the train station, then I'll think about the sector layout. Yours looks fine IMO but in the end it's the balancers decision. :)

Last edited December 8, 2011 at 3:02 PM by MaxiKing6

wow. lemberg 2.0 just came out and now lemberg 3.0 is in progress, all in the same week. such is the life of a community mapper. keep up the good work maxi!

stealthattack1 wrote:
wow. lemberg 2.0 just came out and now lemberg 3.0 is in progress, all in the same week. such is the life of a community mapper. keep up the good work maxi!

I wouldn't call it Lemberg 3.0, rather 2.1 ;)

But yeah, you have to be a tough person to be a mapper.. ;D

Thanks :)

anytime man, you guys are great.

hi maxi,

nice that you have updated your map. the first impressions are really good. if you agree i will help you to optimize the sector layout and maybe some performance issues. keep up the good work.

mapping is hell, i know.

my tip: for further maps try to create the sector layout before you do anything else. it`s a lot of easier.

Last edited December 10, 2011 at 7:51 AM by Sylver

Go ahead, do what you have to do ;)

As I said, I'm no balancer, my part of mapping is merely the creative.. ;)

Fine, thx maxi.

I will work in your file directly to avoid double work. After my work is finished I will send you the file. Hope it will be good. Cu