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[Final] Lemberg (4)

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#75384

[Final] Lemberg (4)

Hello friends!  :D

As I announced when I closed the thread of my previous mapping project for EF, there will be and is a new project I am working on, since yesterday when I started working on it  I reached a progress of ca. 50%.
The maps name is, as you can see in the subject, yet unknown, I'm relying on the communities fantasy here. Its size is 224x448 and I'm not sure if it will be a 2p or 4p map (testing will tell). Enough facts for now, here comes a short story that came up when I had the idea of the map:

It's mid-1941. The Wehrmacht progresses with its Blitzkrieg tactics and Soviet retreat is a pure chaos. However, trying to delay the German march onto [insert important Soviet city here], the Red Army keeps constructing improvised defenses and falls back when the enemy starts to overrun these in-a-hurry constructed defensive lines. The last drawback led the Red Army into the once beautiful village [insert maps name here], that suffered heavy bombing by both Luftwaffe and German Artillery. In the east of the city, the Red Army regroups, supported by a tank battalion that arrived on the flight. They will use their improvised defenses again to let the Wehrmacht find it a hard nut to crack and strike back afterwards with the full strenght of the tank battalion.
There are not many roads on this map but a railroad that leads from east to west (I'll probably use this as supply line for one of the teams).
Additionally, I plan to use this map for my EF artwork..

Enough the words, here are some screenshots:

[size=3]Update no. 1

Map overview
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Area near starting position 1
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View from straing position 1
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View down from on of the VP hills (western hill)
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Market and train station
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The towns pond near the central square
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Some wheat fields
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Most of the village
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View on the western VP hill
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A small shed next to one of the remaining 'islands' of the pine forest
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The western VP hill (unfinished)
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The main street leading into the village
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One of the numerous farms
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A little channel leading away from the pond with a bridge connecting two farms
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[size=3]Update no. 2

75% done.
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Yes, another farm (because you just can't get enough of them :P)
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View from Starting Position 2 (meant to be the Axis')
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The railroad. Damned, you see something unfinished there..
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Some private graves. Rest in peace, comrades.
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Fields, fields. fields..
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Country roads... take me home...
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I decided to let the main road continue past the train station
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Todays progress from above...
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...and from the side (western VP hill)
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[size=3]Update no. 3

100% done.
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You need to cross that ford in order to get to the lumbermill.. At least by car..
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The eastern VP hill, featuring a little ruin. Old glory..
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Huh? Yet another farm?
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The lumbermill. If you wondered where all the lumbered wood has gone..
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There's also wood harvest on this hill. Comrade Stalin needs it!
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"Vasili! Load that wood up!"
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Dense grass. Actually, it's been a long time since someone lived there..
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"Hauptmann, ze train haz arrived to bring us replacements!"
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Progress!
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[size=3]Final update - no. 4

Sector Layout
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Strelky rushing the train station
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T-34 Tank Rider assault!
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"Waiting for the Axis, to march into the trap..."
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"20 more and fire!"
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"Artillery is the god of war!"
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Loading screen.
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Have fun playing my map! :D
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Last edited November 30, 2012 at 1:44 PM by MaxiKing6

#75387

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

...What happened to your previous map, Maxi? :'(
#75389

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

It's gone - but not forever. Just wasn't in the mood to work on it. With my brand new idea, I did 50% of a MP map in just TWO DAYS! :P
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#75392

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Well, this map is nice an' all, but i just can't get excited for it when your previous project was abandoned... :'(
#75393

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Because it looked like Australia or because you don't like if people don't finish what they begin?
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#75394

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

How can i get excited for this map, when you will probably just scrap it before finishing it? ;)
#75396

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

I'll finish it, I promise. With more than half of the map done, there's enough motivation for me to finish it.
BTW: Damage to the village and defenses will be added later on, I just want the map to look like there have been no fightings until now.
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#75398

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Good idea. ;)
#75419

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Looks Great!  ;D
"Stop playing the fool!"
#75471

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

What about 'Lviv' ?
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Lord wrote:
OSTHEER IS DONE WHEN IT'S DONE!
#75487

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Goober wrote:
Looks Great!  ;D

Thanks! :)

cephalos wrote:
What about 'Lviv' ?


You like names that are hard to pronounce, don't you? :P
Lviv doesn't sound bad, but I'll collect more suggestions.
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#75489

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

I don't even know what number that is... :-\
#75492

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Yeah, I do... sometimes when it's not connected with my studies  ::)

It looks like great competition map. Carry on.
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Lord wrote:
OSTHEER IS DONE WHEN IT'S DONE!
#75494

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

pariah wrote:
I don't even know what number that is... :-\

Explain yourself.

cephalos wrote:
It looks like great competition map. Carry on.

Thank you very much.
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#75495

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Quite simply, i'm not good with Roman numerals. I think 'L' is 100, right? Or 1000? :-\
#75496

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

L is 50 and C is 100 iirc.

XL = 40 (-10 + 50)
LX = 60 (50 + 10)

LVIV = not a roman number.
Mors Indecepta

Might controls everything, and without strength you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself...

Last edited June 21, 2011 at 5:04 PM by blackbishop

#75497

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

I - 1
V - 5
X - 10
L - 50
C - 100
D - 500
M - 1000

However, Lviv is a towns name and not a Roman numeral ;)
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#75498

Re: [WIP] Yet unknown mapname (2/4)

Ah, thanks guys. I've never been any good with numbers. Or language. Or numbers using language... :-[
#75499

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

pariah wrote:
Ah, thanks guys. I've never been any good with numbers. Or language. Or numbers using language... :-[

Never mind. LVIV as a Roman numeral would be 59, however the correct Roman numeral for 59 is LIX.

I think I will call it Lviv or much better the German version "Lemberg".
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Last edited June 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM by MaxiKing6

#75500

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

So have you decided on a player count yet? I'm leaning towards 2 at the moment.
#75501

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I would like to upload the map for you to look at it using WB, but you know the problem..
Everything may change, I'm flexible with layout and player bases. For now, there is only enough space for one base.
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#75538

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I figured it would be something like this:
#75599

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

This is exactly how it is at the moment.
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#76333

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I need your opinion once again. If I include rocks in my map, I'd like to know if I should use the light or the dark grey rocks. Comparison:

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Last edited June 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM by MaxiKing6

#76334

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Comparison. ;)

I like both, but i think the dark 1 is the best. Maybe you could mix it up a bit?
#76335

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I know it's comparison, just didn't think about who to write it when I did.

I can't mix them up, these are different models and the option of changing the tint isn't available to them. I won't use many rocks, just here and there some. If I'm in the mood (that is certainly the case ATM), I can finish Lemberg this evening.
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#76336

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

How. ;) ;D

I didn't mean changing the color; I just meant using some light, and some dark.
#76337

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

That might work as well, but now I'll try to avoid rocks at first.
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#76382

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I would say dark, definatly.
"Stop playing the fool!"
#76389

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Goober wrote:
I would say dark, definatly.


Agreed!
"Balancers are 10 a penny"
#76398

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Cranialwizard wrote:
Goober wrote:
I would say dark, definatly.


Agreed!


1+

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#76401

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

evilSpike wrote:
Cranialwizard wrote:
Goober wrote:
I would say dark, definatly.


Agreed!


1+


1-

light definatly

Last edited June 26, 2011 at 11:18 AM by Killar

#76426

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Hard to arrange that everyone of you is satified then.. Maybe I'll just leave the rocks out. There would have been just a few, anyway. Progress is around 75% right now.

Edit:
Update no. 2 is finally there! :D
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#76427

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I'm lovin' it!

P.S. Don't eat McDonalds. It's bad for you.
#76428

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Ok, I'll consider that.
Added poll.
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#76429

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I can't see how 2v2 could fit... :-\
#76430

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Enlarging the free space around starting positions ;)
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#76431

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Yeah, i guess, but i can't tell how much room there is for buildings...
#76432

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

It will be enough.
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#76433

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

So if you go with 2v2, which layout do you think is best? I think 1, considering the Victory Point placement.
#76435

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

You're right about that, but nothing's final, there's still time to change VP locations etc.
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#76439

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I must admit: Maxi is better mapper than me  :)
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Lord wrote:
OSTHEER IS DONE WHEN IT'S DONE!
#76440

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Well, i don't know about that - You're both great mappers. ;)
#76441

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

cephalos wrote:
I must admit: Maxi is better mapper than me  :)


Ceph, mate. It's not about better or worse. I hope both you and my map make their way into EF so people have fun playing both maps. You can't compare that. Pariah is right here one more time. :) Thank you, though.
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#76445

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

'You're tearing me apart, cepha!' ;D
#76938

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Ok, I take the poll as an answer an make Lemberg a 2v2 map. It's done so far, I only need to add destruction and defensives and as I said free some room for additional starting positions. The map will go in internal beta testing, if I get the go ahead by my testers, I will release the map for public use and hopefully for its possible inclusion into EF. :)

You'll also see Progress update no. 3 in some minutes ;)

Here is a little picture I created to sketch my progress:
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Last edited June 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM by MaxiKing6

#76939

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Sweet! How did you make that slideshow, man?
#76940

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

I used a little tool called 'GiftedMotion'. Selected the 11 progress pics and set the time every picture stays to one second. Taddaahhh  ;)
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#76941

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

Cool. Is that with Photoshop?
#76943

Re: [WIP] Lemberg (2/4)

No. it's just GiftedMotion. Google it ;)
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