Ok, lets calm down.
1. I dont hate GERMANS. I really have lots of exellent friends from Germany. Grandfather of Steffan,m one of my best friends, flew from here, from Stalingrad without legs in january 1943, on the last Ju52 escaped from Stalingrad. And My grangrandfather fought directly here, and was heavy wounded in october. MAY BE by fire of Steffan's grandfather. But we are still very good friends.
I hate nazists and NEO NAZISts. By "neo nazists" I mean not only all those who hail now "we were fight for the hitler and we proud of that" (like lots of traitors of Estonia, Lithuania, UNA/UPa nd Vlasov division), but all thouse who claim USSR as a "equal evil as hitleer's Germany"!
2. Yes, I remember that war, wich was started by germans, and I know abiut retreat of russians all the tuime, and I know that the only success was a Brusilov's attack raid just before russian capitulation just before revolution. I dont know about any russian actions in Eastern Prussia, because all Polish lands and Baltic land were occupied by germans extremly soon after war started. And hundreds of officers, originally with german roots, traited russian army, and surrendered with all their regiments.
3. My opinion is not "the last truth" here. Its just my opinion, nothing more.
4. I am not a communist at all. I know about crimes of communists against my OWN NATION not from propaganda books, but from my grandies. I think, if You in the West will hear about "death-deserve crime" if somebody will JUST stole several grains to feed his family and be shot for it by commisars - You will laugh or wont beleive. But it was truth. Mother of my grandfather, together with 3/4 of his village in southern siberia - died from hunger in late 30'th, because commisars took all the food (some of that food were sold to germany too, in exchange to factory equipment and other technology). People had to boil grass and even boots to eat it, just to survive! Dont tell me what is communism!
"Когда я слышал их (комиссаров) призывы: «За Сталина!», то мне было трудно сдерживать мат. Никто не воевал лично за Сталина! Народ воевал против Гитлера! Люди воевали за свою землю! И мстили за своих убитых братьев, повешенных матерей, расстрелянных детей и изнасилованных жён!"
That was a words of one artillery officer, who recalled his WWII actions. And he was not the only who think that way.
Hitler was not going only to take our land and our houses. He was going to eleminate slavians as a nation, with last few people as a slaves. Read "Fall Ost" carefully. He declared a total war, annihilation war. Hitler declared it, not Stalin, note that! He failed to do that, and what do You waiting from Soviet soldiers who killed their hatred enemy in Berlin? And even in That situation, Stalin ORDERED not to rape and maradeur, and there were hundreds of soviet soldiers were judged and shot because of ignoring that order. Stalin KNEW how to rule.
During WWII, communism was a biggest enemy for SOVIET Army itself.
After WWII, communism became an evil for eastern Europe.
Dont exchange that in your mind.
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And few words about soviet "invasion" into Poland in 1939.
Soviet attack was totally unwaited to Hitler. He didnt knew about Stalins plans over eastern Poland (very strange for "good allies", isnt it?). Only after two days passed, Stalin and Hitler had a discussion about new border between Germany and USSR. And only on 20th, when Stalin PRESSED Htiler to move new border as Stalin wants (with Brest on Soviet side), border was stated by both leaders. Under soviet press, on sept.20 Hitler ordered to retreat his troops from positions they gained in fight with poles with much blood, and evaquate all tropheys or destroy them not only to be captured by soviets. When after actions ceased, Hitler asked to give him Belostok and Augustov because Germany have lack of wood, and it extremly need with forrested territory, Stalin answerred in the way as "F*ck off, Its now Ukrainian SSR". An "exellent friendlyship", isnt it?
But during actions on sept. 17 several RedArmy VVS bomb attacks followed on german troops, in wich were killed up to 10 german soldiers.
On sept. 19, near Lvov recoon armed cars of 24 light tank brigade met german troops of 137 Inf.Division, and after following COMBAT RedArmy lost 3 BA-10, 5 soldiers killed and 3 injured. Germans lost 2 AT guns and several soldiers killed.
Stalin played his own game, as master of puppets, and Hitler was a puppet in 1939 in front of the RedArmy fiorce.
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94th Guards Infantry Division, 100th Separated Anti-Tank Artillery Divizion.
Last edited February 13, 2010 at 6:46 PM by Artillerist
As far as I know, all borders after the war were made along ethnic lines, except German. East Prussia was donated to Poland.
the map of all UNR. The red lines show parts and borders.
