Mines

Its up to us as a group, so far we haven't discussed adding in an Allied-country call in but that's because we've barely even discussed the Ostheer. I'm in favour of a Finnish/Hungarian/Romanian etc call in (I mean, the Brits call in Canadian units), but not an entire Faction.

BurroDiablo wrote:
Its up to us as a group, so far we haven't discussed adding in an Allied-country call in but that's because we've barely even discussed the Ostheer. I'm in favour of a Finnish/Hungarian/Romanian etc call in (I mean, the Brits call in Canadian units), but not an entire Faction.

realy great!!!!! so would that mean a army group north would have finish support

army group center would have slovakians, Italians, hungarians

and army group shouth would have Romania???

BurroDiablo : ! That's exactly what I said :)
I don't see Finnish, etc having a whole faction to themselves, but I feel the OstHeer should be heavily multinational. Call-ins  would be pretty sweet. Even perhaps, Finnish tanks But that would be limited to, say, 2. And
would be sorta equal to StuG/Hetzel, or StuH42/105.
Nothing overpowered. Just a little flavor thrown in, yknow?

Shush! He said no a whole faction, but perhaps call-ins!!!

Whoo-hoo ! :D

Ostheer says it all, though, no? Eastern Army :)

Put in Slavs and ill give you an e-cookie, and maybe even a generous donation  ;)

I, along with my family, was born Yugoslavia, so having the balkans represented in any way would be amazing  ;D

I'm game for that :)
Although, hmm... did Yougoslavia fight against the
soviets??? If it's historical, I'm all for it. I seem to recall
the Yougoslavs were pretty much #1 Partisans :)
(Although they were hugging 4-way civil war for awhile)

- I am thoroughly amazed they didn't completely wipe
one another out, seriously. Tito and that... other dude...
(The croatian one was really something, though).

If anything, make the partisans Yugoslavs :)

Yah, it was bad but its gotten better, sort of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Front_%28World_War_II%29

Shameless wiki post. Though notice how it says Yugoslav partisans and the soviet involvement, right at '44-'45

Just and idea  ;D

Mhhh, seems like at least one DEV changed his mind.
Around 2 months ago, if you only said Finns, you were literally spammed with answers like "NOES!!!11 NEVAR EVAR!11!!!"  :P

I could see them as Doctrin-Units (however, not every doctrin should have one foreign-call-in-unit) or as part of the reward-system.
Implementing those non-German-units into the Reward Unit system is IMO even the best way.
So noone who wants to play a pure German Ostheer is forced to have Yugoslavian/Hungarian/Romanian units.

But I'm against any kind of Partisans on the Ostheer-side. Sorry, but the Red Army already has them, so I see no need in giving it to the Ostheer, too. They have to be regular fighting forces. Maybe Chetniks count as regulars, maybe they don't...

So as far as I'm concerned, I think Finns and a Hungarian/Yugoslavic regular infantry unit are enough. Maybe a tank, Toldi as replacement for PzKpfW. II, TACAM T-60 for Marder II, 41M Turán II (for PzKpfW. IV) or LT vzor 38 (model WIP).

Look at my Ostheer proposal, I think I've found a nice compromise.  :)

BUT: This doesn't belong into this thread and also most of the foreign-countries-supporting-Ostheer-stuff was already mentioned!

Last edited November 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM by Aouch

Thread, uh?
I think Ostheer should have finnish, hungarian call-ins.
(Even if they are alternate rewards) if only to soak up
mines so that the true-blood germans don't need to
soil their hands with such matters ;)

How's THAT ? :D

Loupblanc wrote:

Thread, uh?
I think Ostheer should have finnish, Hungarian call-ins.
(Even if they are alternate rewards) if only to soak up
mines so that the true-blood germans don't need to
soil their hands with such matters ;)

How's THAT ? :D

Romanians took on a larger role than Hungry, and also Italy (some people think that Romanina did more in ww2 than the Italians because of the large amount of petroleum that they gave to German tanks)

I heard rumanians also gave syphillis to a lot of Soviets, lol.
When soviets rolled in, they captured germans with tons of
prophylactics (spel?) in their pockets. Laughed at germans
for being such horndogs. Within two months, tons of
venerial casualties. Ugh. Too, in those days, it wasn't the
lame VD we got now. I'm talking life-threatening here.

Loupblanc wrote:

I heard rumanians also gave syphillis to a lot of Soviets, lol.
When soviets rolled in, they captured germans with tons of
prophylactics (spel?) in their pockets. Laughed at germans
for being such horndogs. Within two months, tons of
venerial casualties. Ugh. Too, in those days, it wasn't the
lame VD we got now. I'm talking life-threatening here.

...so how would this translate in terms of gameplay?

:o

Loupblanc wrote:

I heard rumanians also gave syphillis to a lot of Soviets, lol.
When soviets rolled in, they captured germans with tons of
prophylactics (spel?) in their pockets. Laughed at germans
for being such horndogs. Within two months, tons of
venerial casualties. Ugh. Too, in those days, it wasn't the
lame VD we got now. I'm talking life-threatening here.

Im sorry was there any reason for this what so ever????? If there was please tell me

- Er, in terms of gameplay not at all. Because by the time
this happenned, Rumania was completely knocked out of
the war. It happenned around 2-3 months after the fall of
the capital.
- Any reason for say? Not per se. Just got too many books
on the period. One being a Time collection on WW2, and
there was a long detailed section on the topic. It's not
combat related in any way.

Just a historical anecdote related to Rumanians, Russians
and WW2. Don't know much about their battle prowess, but
I do know they were eager to share the spoils of war with
the Germans in their drive to the East.

They have not stated what years the mod was going to take the place

1943-1944. That's the T34/76-T34/85 transition period.
IS-2 is circa 1943+ (Made by Kirov industries!)

Tiger is 1942+ / Panther is 1943+

Its all over the place really, I think the earliest (buildable)Tank we have is the T-70 which was 1942. The KV-2 is 1939.
The T-34/75 76 (stupid fingers) is the 1943 version; for the current Skirmish mode the 43 version is fine, but if we were going to set missions in our campaign before then we'd probably have to make a new turret (probably the 1941 version).
The IS-2 is the 1944 version with the sloped front (earlier versions have a stepped front)

Last edited November 19, 2009 at 12:26 AM by BurroDiablo

Kirov industries made the IS2. It showed aplenty in earlier
versions :)

It's the T34/76mm BTW :)

And, yessss... :) Please, please make a Barbarossa campaign
with Pz-3, Pz-2 and T34/76/40 :)

The 40 version was less common, about 1000 were made, compared to the 1941 version which topped out at about 9000. It would be a slightly less powerful foe though, The L-11 gun was average at best and I think it had less armour, certainly around the turret.

Last edited November 19, 2009 at 12:58 AM by BurroDiablo

Not much difference armor wise, etc.
The big shit about the /40 was the turret's cramped
spacing. It's reloading was abyssal. No radio, and NO
CROSSHAIRS!!!! Armor and gun were decent, though.

Sure, it was crap vs Tigers, etc. But no tigers in 1940.
Plenty of Pz2 and Pz3 and Pz4D's though BWAHAHAHA ;)
The T34 was a Panther compared to the oldie German tanks.
THANK GOD for germans there were only 1000s out :)

Sure 1941 turret is fine, then.  I don't have an issue
with that.

Last edited November 19, 2009 at 6:08 AM by Loupblanc