Company of Heroes 2

Red Orchestra 3: Company of Heroes XD

neosdark wrote:
Considering what the game is starting to look like, we may be able to customize weaponry for our troops. Thus I imagine that they maybe adding rare and experimental weaponry (maybe like the AVT-40, AVS-36, MkB 42(H), MP43 MP40/II, G-41(W), etc.) Hell maybe we will even see Silenced M1895 Mosin Revolvers with some Soviet NKVD teams XD

I would like that <3

I heard that the buyable upgrades are only for singleplayer...multiplayer will remain the same of vCoH...let's see  ;)

TBH I wouldn't mind buying skinpacks. Its so hard to find a good one, let alone install it ::)

yes that's good if its for singleplayer but who wants that anyway?

WHy cant the skin pack be for bot SP and MP? Its doesn't effect balance.

Bread wrote:
WHy cant the skin pack be for bot SP and MP? Its doesn't effect balance.

uhh actually i was going to install th epilepsy skin, which gives out free siezures so you can win ;D

Mattdamon07 wrote:
yes that's good if its for singleplayer but who wants that anyway?

Depends what they put on sale...of course I'm talking exclusively about Singleplayer.

About Multi, I don't think they will put microtransaction or other s***t like CoH: Online (because it would not make sense to pay 50€ for the game).

I'm quite positive about this.

Some more info;

- SU has FEMALE snipers. They work as a pair, both shot makes a kill and they don't have camo. Simply both faction has snipers without camo. Imho that's good cause sniper spam currently really annoying in a 1v1 or 2v2. This will lead more micro, less sniper play.

- SU speaks Russian, Ost speaks German.

Riggsman wrote:
Some more info;

- SU has FEMALE snipers. They work as a pair, both shot makes a kill and they don't have camo. Simply both faction has snipers without camo. Imho that's good cause sniper spam currently really annoying in a 1v1 or 2v2. This will lead more micro, less sniper play.

- SU speaks Russian, Ost speaks German.

= EF

except the female sniper thingy, which couldn´t be coded, but i remember the thread very well.
Which account has the relic spy in this forum?

Last edited October 1, 2012 at 1:17 PM by Killar

They dont need a registred account to read  ;D

Killar wrote:

Riggsman wrote:
Some more info;

- SU has FEMALE snipers. They work as a pair, both shot makes a kill and they don't have camo. Simply both faction has snipers without camo. Imho that's good cause sniper spam currently really annoying in a 1v1 or 2v2. This will lead more micro, less sniper play.

- SU speaks Russian, Ost speaks German.

= EF

except the female sniper thingy, which couldn´t be coded, but i remember the thread very well.
Which account has the relic spy in this forum?

I didn't even mention Molotovs, Guards, Brummbar, Stugs, Doctrine-Tier unlocks etc ;)
EF rulezz! :D

Last edited October 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM by Riggsman

btw in Germany it's going to be from 12 years which means there won't be any bodily parts and blood in it for us... :P

You gotta love Germany <3

So basically a watered down ripoff of EF that will likely have imbalanced gameplay mechanics and pay to play. Seems awesome so far. I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised but this game is sounding worse all the time.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
pay to play.

Wait wait wait.... Its pay to play!?!?!

I guess it will effect only Campaign games, different skins, badge etc not PvP play. I don't think they will make the COHO mistake again.

Who will pay for a different skin of a unit to be used in campaign games? They have to completly shut down modding support for this game.

You'll be able to pay for DLC, Skins and Maps using ingame currency according to the Relic forums. DLC... Skins... Maps...

Essentially, it doesn't mess with PvP in any direct way, what you pay for is DLC and presumably any unbalanced units that come with it. Also, Maps... I don't even.. unless they withhold WorldBuilder from us, I can't see them fleecing many people that way. I'd extend this to skins as well... the only way they could possibly make money from skins is if they totally block any modding, which would be fucking absurd.

(edit, hehe, Killar noticed it first)

Riggsman wrote:
I guess it will effect only Campaign games, different skins, badge etc not PvP play. I don't think they will make the COHO mistake again.

You seem to forget how stupid greedy people can be. Obviously this is no longer a labor of love as much as a labor for money. TO blatantly rip-off EF may be the highest form of flattery, but it is also the sign of laziness and lack of interest and brainstorming in what they are doing. This is a money game now.

Well you can't blame them, they are not doing this just for sports. But I don't give any chance "pay to play" thing- imho all paid rewards will be aesthetic wise.  Who will pay? Well atm the game is in pre-order and you can buy the collector edition which gives some skins, badge etc. After watching Hans stream, I am sure they will not be short of nerds to pay for such things.

:D

Haha the guy in the spiderman costum playing coh2  :D

Riggsman wrote:
Well you can't blame them, they are not doing this just for sports. But I don't give any chance "pay to play" thing- imho all paid rewards will be aesthetic wise.  Who will pay? Well atm the game is in pre-order and you can buy the collector edition which gives some skins, badge etc. After watching Hans stream, I am sure they will not be short of nerds to pay for such things.

:D

Agree.

If CoH2 will be a "pay 4 play" game it's senseless pay 50€ now for pre-order if you must pay every month for your subscription.

More sense we have in something like World of Tanks (note: I hate every game where I must pay periodically) where the download it's free but if you want great thing (in this case big tanks) and stuff you must pay, but IMHO it's not a "style" good for a game like CoH!

I'm saying this because I agree with this:

Riggsman wrote:I don't think they will make the COHO mistake again.

Riggsman wrote:
Who will pay?

Lots of ppl will

Not me definitely, I gonna have a family to feed :P

Pay 2 win sounds "not modable" to me...

Maybe it will be - pay to play campain.

That would make no sense since one would just breeze through the camapaign and jump into multiplayer at the first chance, you might not say that's not bad but:

Money, dear boy. -Executive producer-

They won't be getting much of it that way.

Quote Steam Store:
Reward 3

Everything Above, Plus:

Company of Heroes 2 Commissar Chest*

In-Game Currency Gift to be Used Towards Purchasing Future Content
XP Boost
Unit Boost
Commander Archetype

*Rewards will be backfilled once we reach the next level.

Fuck that ****!

Looks like coh2 is made by financial experts not by players for players :(

THQLynx on the Official CoH forum insists that CoH isn't going to be pay-to-win, XP and Unit boosts won't affect PvP matches (and XP itself is 'purely cosmetic'...). If anything, it seems to me as if they're just fishing for pre-orders from people who think these things give them some advantage.

He also mentioned that they're still 'Looking into' Modding and Worldbuilder.

BurroDiablo wrote:
He also mentioned that they're still 'Looking into' Modding and Worldbuilder.

Maps and Skins should get bought, so why they should allow modding?  ???

Maybe they don't want to lose the community that generates revenue for them by means of buying the game to mod it?

Walki wrote:

Maps and Skins should get bought, so why they should allow modding?  ???

Hmm Why not? I'm sure many people will not bother to surf in forums to download skins, soundpacks etc but buy it from the official site if the price doesn't hurt that much. It's like, you can buy a phone case from a local shop or from Applestore for your Iphone. It's customer's choice that all. Nothing seems weird to me.

Riggsman wrote:

Walki wrote:

Maps and Skins should get bought, so why they should allow modding?  ???

Hmm Why not? I'm sure many people will not bother to surf in forums to download skins, soundpacks etc but buy it from the official site if the price doesn't hurt that much. It's like, you can buy a phone case from a local shop or from Applestore for your Iphone. It's customer's choice that all. Nothing seems weird to me.

You can't create a phone case yourself. Well, you could try, but it would be shit, so you're better off buying one. Nor would phone case manufacturers say you couldn't 'modify' your case once you get bored with it just because it's in their interests that you bought a new one.

Last edited October 2, 2012 at 8:29 PM by BurroDiablo

Actually I was trying to say that Relic would allow modding but they would have these products for sale as well. At the end, Mods keep the life of the game longer because they re-invent the game every time. That's why I don't think that they will prevent community creativity. I just don't expect them to allow after 1 week of the release- maybe few months maybe a year later I guess.

Yep, that seems most likely, 6 months to a year seems reasonable if this is the route they're going. I think the aim would be to delay modding enough that they can make money on DLC's or expansions without having to compete with their own community, but not so long that players begin to get bored and leave the game.

http://blog.fulltimegeek.de/feature/12azors-review-of-company-of-heroes-2-eurogamer/

More Info leaked.

After some reading I think they extremely overpowered Soviets. I wonder how it's gonna be the balance.

Last edited October 12, 2012 at 12:16 AM by Riggsman

6 man fast deploy MG crew? Good luck flanking that.

I smell EF 1.0 here... just a bit ofc ;)

Is that review reliable? It's real right? Or they made it up? ???

Forget what I wrote...

Last edited October 12, 2012 at 10:11 AM by Dann88

It seems like they litteraly have copied 80% of your guys work. Is there anything you can do about that? At least they should mention you guys :S

Write a legal letter? Or file a case?

In fact, if they were only creating EF without new engines and platforms the gameplay will be sooo crappy , that this good mod will become the best.

Actually all the new features they included are the biggest critics the playtester have for this game: True sight, campfire, weather effects and tank capture are only a few examples of what is going to make the gameplay problematic. What is left is basically coh1 with a new faction. If we take a look at this new faction you have alot similarities to EF mod. So basically coh2 and EF mod are competitors for players. EFmod has the older engine and less possibilites to improve the gameplay, but tries to keep the original vcoh gameplay, which made this franchise so great and popular.

I still don't get the game play design; in VCOH the meta game basically based on Mg flanking but here both factions have Mgs and SU has 6 man squad. I don't expect a fluid game honestly. More campy and focused on big explosions, effects- not state of art like COH but like 1980's video clips- a bunch of kitsch things.

12 razor said also in his write up, that the map layout combined with weather effects, small base sectors and make this game very slow, which is bad for multiplayer. I guess relic just looked at how many people are playing campaign and skirmishes and focused their effort on these people.

So if you play CoH2, you will have more chance to stomp the noobs. Enjoy hunting! ;D
But seriously, that a waste of money. Like most games nowaday, buy => play campaign, fullfill some achievements => boring multiplayer => delete in few weeks and the cycle begins again.

Since Relic have taken some ideas from EF, should we call Bryan Mills (aka Liam Neeson)?

Last edited October 12, 2012 at 3:54 PM by Dann88