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Its just not the same though ;)

An thought the Animations might prove a problem for the mobile Flak 38, still I can always hope to see them as a reward unit or something in the future  8)

its like burro already said,
you can still build your flak emplacements like wehr can build mg bunker
so there is not realy a need for a mobile version of the flak

also you should keep in mind that many units not automatically means great faction or cool gameplay

I'm not arguing with that at all and I get what your saying completely, I just like to see unique units in the game such as the King Tiger/Tiger Ace, Tank Hunters, Fallschirmjäger etc...

Just awesome having unique units in game.

But yeah that's just me it could make gameplay better it could make gameplay worse, but yeah its not my decision its yours so I won't argue with it :)

hehe dont worry^^
ostheer will be unique

there are so many cool new units, abilitys and command trees

The Forward Support Center sounds interesting :)
And the InfantryGruppenPost looks very nice!

I am also not happy that the panzerbüchse and the mobile Flak38 were removed. However, the balancer will know it better, especially since there is still a flak emplacements for the moblie flak38.  ;)

Also, I'm very curious how secure sectors with the opel blitz will work.  8)

I'm glad panzerbusch will get its day in the sun. Marquis de Queensbury?

I don't get the rage over the Panzerbüchse. It is essentially a carbon copy of the Soviet PRTD in game.

I on the other hand much rather would prefer the shieldless shreck in play now. It's unique but offers generalization, like the other two axis armies.

^I think its a sorta iconic German weapon I guess  :-\. And the shieldless shrecks wont perform any different right? Just checking :P

yes i have to agree that the panzerbüchse would a) come to late as it could be usefull, b) looked more like a cheap copy of ptrd, and finaly c) its the early schreck without the shields, isnt that unique enough for you?

but that dosent mean that there is no place at all for this weapon
we have still the campain and maybe another unit will use it... who knows? XD

@fish
as it is an earlyer verion of the normal panzerschreck the stats can be different from the wehr/pe version

Last edited April 27, 2012 at 3:04 AM by ApeMen

Cranialwizard wrote:
I don't get the rage over the Panzerbüchse. It is essentially a carbon copy of the Soviet PRTD in game.

THe game treats AT rifles the same as Bazooka like weapons. Historically they are not. The PTRD in game is fine, historically it is OP. Unfortunately the treadbreaker or other crits any AT Rifle inflict are OP in game. For any mod dealing with pre 1943? only AT Rifles would have been available to CW, italians Finns, Sovs, Heer etc.

http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/10/9675/Panzerbsche_Team.jpg
At least we will always have this.

@ BurroDiablo
Are you sure? These posts sounds to me like the opposite.

ApeMen wrote:

Sommarkatze wrote:
So.. No Panzerbusche? ;C

right
there was no place for it

at least there is no place for it with the panzerjäger

but that dosnt mean that there will be no other place for it^^

ApeMen wrote:
at least there is no place for it with the panzerjäger

but that dosnt mean that there will be no other place for it^^

Hint much? :o

BurroDiablo wrote:
It was only the wheeled version of the Flak38 that was removed. Partly due to redundancy, Leig18 and Luchs could prove equally brutal against infantry, but also because of animations....

Have you talked to the Afrika mod folks recently? They are working on Towed artillery too.

Have you tried using only the prime mover model when ATG is loaded and ATG model when deployed?

Last edited April 27, 2012 at 9:45 PM by Otto Halfhand

ok again there is no need for the mobile flak38 because we have an flak38 emplacement
so you can still have your flak guys XD

ostheer has already enough units
there is also no need to add more stuff

more units good game/mod/design/gameplay/fun whatever XD

plz keep in mind that more units are not automatically means something is better^^

ApeMen wrote:plz keep in mind that more units are not automatically means something is better^^

True!  ;)

I wish new maps in ostheer update ;p

Gounited wrote:
I wish new maps in ostheer update ;p

there will be new maps ^^
dont worry

Indeed, there are great plans concerning the Eastern Front official map pool! There'll be an announcement soon ;)

ahh, maxi and his beloved mapping surprises! looking forward to the release guys!

May I ask what the balancers will do after Ostheer is tweaked?

Work constantly on perfecting balance. It can't be done immediately with even a large group, let alone our small balance team. It'll take time for OP/UP things to surface and develop. Look at Wehr med bunkers. They were never a terribly used thing until later patches, despite not even being rebalanced at all for ages. They were simply overlooked.

I see, i was hoping that since we had an American faction and a SU faction, the balancers could do you know what.

cold war mode?

Yes, seeing as it has pretty fair balace already, it shouldn't take too much effort to balance Amis and Soviets.

stealthattack1 wrote:
cold war mode?

cold war mode will probably never happen
its nothing relic would so as an inofficial addon we also wont do this

ApeMen wrote:

stealthattack1 wrote:
cold war mode?

cold war mode will probably never happen
its nothing relic would so as an inofficial addon we also wont do this

And plus it would be awkward. Where would you put this thing when all the factions are meant to be add ons the the typically Allies vs Axis? You could call it a mini game(like a operation) but still  :-\. And I highly doubt this would be easy to balance.

Cold war will likely never be done, because it's not in the "Expansion" Style, nor does it seem as entertaining.

Balancing is never a complete process. Look at 2.6.0.2. Not much of an improvement on [IP address redacted], and far from what I would call "perfect and final" balance.

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All the way to May? ;D

But yeah... skinners get your asses in here, we need somebody on Infantry textures. Please. Pretty please. We can pay you in used cotton buds.