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#104743

Blackout Day

Edit2:
SOPA/PIPA pulled from H.R. and S. for now.
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Lamar Smith, the chief sponsor of SOPA, said on Friday that he is pulling the bill "until there is wider agreement on a solution."


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The massive protests on the internet made a difference.
[quote=FightForTheFuture]Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.  And it just takes just 41 solid "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What seemed like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
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On October 26 of 2011, there was a proposed bill on the United States of America know as Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), and it's objective is to give complete power to enforce the copyright laws not only for the U.S. government but also for the Copyrights Holders, meaning that they will cut off anything they consider under "copyright-infringement".

The bill discussion on the congress has being delayed by several months, but it is scheduled to be started in February. In the senate, there's a similar bill known as Protect IP Act (PIPA). The senate version is scheduled to be voted on January 24th. Several big companies have embraced this proposal, waiting the moment it goes law, to start enforcing it. That would bring some serious consequences, but let's start for something small:

[flash=640,480]http://www.youtube.com/v/eFjbGi0x3kg?version=3&feature=player_detailpage[/flash]


This video would become illegal after SOPA becomes law, because you ripped off a movie to add whatever you wanted and that's enough to take actions against it. You may think, they can do whatever they want after all, I'm not living in U.S.A. what I should care? Even if you are not living in that country, if you use host anything that may be tagged as copyright infringement, the service provider will have no other choice rather than removing your stuff and even the Copyright Holders can request all your information from the provider and shall be given. Also if the U.S.A. implement this law, expect other countries in the world to follow.

This goes against the freedom of speech, Piracy is wrong but this is not the correct way to fight against it. Several sites, including Reddit and Wikipedia already set their negative stance about this matter and they call for a Blackout Day, stopping to bring their services for a whole day, to demonstrate how things could be if SOPA actually is approved.

For more about SOPA/PIPA, take a look at the video in the link below.
http://www.fightforthefuture.org/pipa
Valar Morghulis
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[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: BULLSHIT
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I'll eat a tree if this won't work now
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: ok
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: I'll hold you to it
<10 minutes later>
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I think I really gotta eat a tree...
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: got a decent one?

Last edited January 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM by Rizz

#104750

Re: Blackout Day

While I disagree on other countries following suit, I agree something must be done about SOPA (and PIPA). My support is given.

Is a blackout planed for this site?

I'd say to place one on the mumble server, but there is no one online anyway...
#104751

Re: Blackout Day

Not more then we currently have in effect, aka. a black splash when you load a page that you can click away.
Valar Morghulis
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[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: BULLSHIT
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I'll eat a tree if this won't work now
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: ok
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: I'll hold you to it
<10 minutes later>
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I think I really gotta eat a tree...
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: got a decent one?
#104753

Re: Blackout Day

USA has SOPA
EU has ACTA

democracies are dying, welcome to democratic stalinism.
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#104755

Re: Blackout Day

cephalos wrote:
welcome to democratic stalinism.


lolwut? Stalinism has nothing to do with it... this is what we call 'Plutocracy'.
#104756

Re: Blackout Day

I wish to help more...
But the only thing I can do is simply spread the news because I don't live in America...
I am sorry and do your best Americans!!!
I am sorry for my bad
#104758

Re: Blackout Day

This has Global consequences. The Bill essentially gives American corporations free reign on the Internet... if it passes and one day a troll comes here posting 'infringing links', suddenly Eastern Front mod could have it's domain seized by 20th Century Fox or whatever corporation had it's copyrights infringed upon. Its fucking absurd.
#104764

Re: Blackout Day

The problem is even millions of people sign their name on a big ass paper that on it, there are writings about people hate/against/angry about the bill, the US gov still pass the bill anyway. Politically, you vote a vote to a republic government, you will lost your freedom in... a republic's way and same with the communism :P. They're (greedy and stupid) people anyway, which most of them do things benefit them first.  Just wait and see what happens next.
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#104769

Re: Blackout Day

I wish people would stop dragging communism or fascism into these discussions, two subjects which, lets face it, the general populace of the West has a very skewed basis of opinion on due to 70+ years of perpetual Government fear mongering. When something like this happens people are alway really, really fucking quick to scream 'OMG, Communisms!' or 'OMG, Fascisms!' without so much as an inkling why other than 'Gubmint takin mah Freederms!'.
#104776

Re: Blackout Day

Oh no, not again, my point is the basic of a government which is exist to maintain order and serve the right for (a part of) people in a country or a society. And for the sake of "order", people have to be controlled by the government not the way around, despite the government is created by the (a part of) people itself. So in this situation, they will pass the bill and don't care any people's complains. That's what I want to say. The smart way is to work around it, not fight with it, fighting/against is the last resort and complain is... *sigh*
In my previous post, it should be like "communism one or communism government", my bad :P.
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#104789

Re: Blackout Day

dragonmith wrote:
While I disagree on other countries following suit


US Internet laws are frighteningly far-reaching.
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#104821

Re: Blackout Day

indeed. im glad that this thread is here. i was actually going to create one, but i am glad that people know about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM
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OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND RAPE CEASERS GHOST IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN!?
#104824

Re: Blackout Day

OMG, I come back for what is up with the mod, and I read this. Where we live? In China's Democratic Republic? The sad thing is if they censore things, that means the game screenshot is under copyright smthg or not? And it is succed in US the other countrys will incorporate them to their laws... I feel like we're in the 1950's east europe...
#104840

Re: Blackout Day

You know guys millions of ppl do NOT support this bill in the US. Its quite frankly a shitty idea, whoever thought of it. Companies will just abuse their power and fuck with the internet. Even our US president, Barrack Obama vows to veto any attempt of this bill to pass through. At least we have some ppl on our side :D

Im kind of glad EF is doing this (even though I dont like clicking through many black screens >_<)
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#104860

Re: Blackout Day

Jesus having sex with Christ!?
Like all the stuff on internet would die!? We are dependence of a free internet!? Think about the porn, the games, my movies!? ( I used fallout 2 music in it PM me for more information! <3) The EF forums!? ;O

I aint the smartest guy. But where do I sign up, tell me what to do to stop this madness!!
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My English is kind of useless. But that because Iam swedish Wooohoooj! ;3
#104862

Re: Blackout Day

Fishhunterx wrote:
You know guys millions of ppl do NOT support this bill in the US. Its quite frankly a shitty idea, whoever thought of it. Companies will just abuse their power and fuck with the internet. Even our US president, Barrack Obama vows to veto any attempt of this bill to pass through. At least we have some ppl on our side :D

Im kind of glad EF is doing this (even though I dont like clicking through many black screens >_<)


Thanks to Protest, numbers of supporters in the Congressional Bodies have decreased dramatically.

HOWEVER, before Wikipedia and Google blackouts it could have been passed in the Senate with a 2/3 majority. That means Obama wouldn't be able to do shit.

Italy underwent similar legislation drafts a couple years ago. Italian Wikipedia and Google went black and a few other sites as protest, just like the US, and the law was slammed down to the ground and killed by the public. (The bill came around election year IIRC)
"Balancers are 10 a penny"
#104864

Re: Blackout Day

Sommarkatze wrote:
Jesus having sex with Christ!?


The politically correct way of saying: JEESUS FUCKING CHRIST!?!

Sommarkatze wrote:
Think about the porn, the games, my movies!?


Oh no! What would we do w/o bad acting whores, free tetris, and pirated movies? XD

Im JK, I heavily oppose this bill (especially in since i live in the US)

Cranialwizard wrote:
Fishhunterx wrote:
You know guys millions of ppl do NOT support this bill in the US. Its quite frankly a shitty idea, whoever thought of it. Companies will just abuse their power and fuck with the internet. Even our US president, Barrack Obama vows to veto any attempt of this bill to pass through. At least we have some ppl on our side :D

Im kind of glad EF is doing this (even though I dont like clicking through many black screens >_<)


Thanks to Protest, numbers of supporters in the Congressional Bodies have decreased dramatically.

HOWEVER, before Wikipedia and Google blackouts it could have been passed in the Senate with a 2/3 majority. That means Obama wouldn't be able to do shit.

Italy underwent similar legislation drafts a couple years ago. Italian Wikipedia and Google went black and a few other sites as protest, just like the US, and the law was slammed down to the ground and killed by the public. (The bill came around election year IIRC)


Its sad to think more than 2/3 of the senate was willing to let this pass  :'(

BTW next time you devs do something like this, could you make the black screens only appear for guest? Its a bit tedious to keep clicking. Im sure any member here wouldn't like this bill anywho.
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#104877

Re: Blackout Day

I think this bill of the congress of the USA, is doomed to a failure (in the present and the future).
#104878

Re: Blackout Day

Fishhunterx wrote:

BTW next time you devs do something like this, could you make the black screens only appear for guest? Its a bit tedious to keep clicking. Im sure any member here wouldn't like this bill anywho.

He is right, it is irritates. :'(

Last edited January 19, 2012 at 4:54 AM by 777Mais777

#104885

Re: Blackout Day

Release the mod before it is passed
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#104887

Re: Blackout Day

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Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.  And it just takes just 41 solid "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What seemed like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.


It worked !
Valar Morghulis
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[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: BULLSHIT
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I'll eat a tree if this won't work now
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: ok
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: I'll hold you to it
<10 minutes later>
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I think I really gotta eat a tree...
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: got a decent one?
#104888

Re: Blackout Day

Oh well. Guess it will end well. For us.
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#104894

Re: Blackout Day

Its a little nice to know the webs efforts wasn't in vain :)
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#104906

Re: Blackout Day

*Then suddenly someone bribes the senate $50,000,000*

The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#104909

Re: Blackout Day

Did you do that?
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#104939

Re: Blackout Day

yea..no.
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Sommarkatze wrote:
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND RAPE CEASERS GHOST IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN!?
#104961

Re: Blackout Day

Seeme wrote:
*Then suddenly someone bribes the senate $50,000,000*


No, but I considered gunning down Pat Leahy when I first saw the introduction of this bill.

This guy is only in office because his leading opposition ran under "The Marijuana Party"
"Balancers are 10 a penny"
#104991

Re: Blackout Day

Batton down the hatches, there be a shitstorm coming.
#104995

Re: Blackout Day

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought megaupload wad taken down a month ago?
Valar Morghulis
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[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: BULLSHIT
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I'll eat a tree if this won't work now
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: ok
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: I'll hold you to it
<10 minutes later>
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I think I really gotta eat a tree...
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: got a decent one?
#105000

Re: Blackout Day

May have been in some legal shite for a month or so but it was only properly removed today.
#105001

Re: Blackout Day

AFAIK they taken down a promo video about Megaupload not the site itself.

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#105009

Re: Blackout Day

Damn shits gettin real :P. Just think, in 20 years from now this will be in history text books (US history at least)
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#105015

Re: Blackout Day

blackbishop wrote:
AFAIK they taken down a promo video about Megaupload not the site itself.


Well, I tried accessing the site when I heard and I couldn't :P
#105020

Re: Blackout Day

@BurroDiablo
Oh, I mean that was what happened one month ago more or less, this time the whole site fell :-\.
Mors Indecepta

Might controls everything, and without strength you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself...
#105022

Re: Blackout Day

There's a god damn internet riot out there. Whitehouse.gov is the next big target.

What's better is that Megaupload wasn't even taken down. They have a backup domain.

Operation Megaupload, Operation DonkeyKick, Operation Payback have launched.

FBI.gov and Justice.gov are down.

Several big supporters of SOPA like UMG are down as well.

Bunker down lads...
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#105030

Re: Blackout Day

Cranialwizard wrote:
blackbishop wrote:
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Yarr!
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#105040

Re: Blackout Day

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#105044

Re: Blackout Day

MaxiKing6 wrote:
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Meh, we still invade it anywho :P
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#105065

Re: Blackout Day

Fishhunterx wrote:
MaxiKing6 wrote:
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Meh, we still invade it anywho :P

Yeah, whatever  ::)
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#105126

Re: Blackout Day

SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!
Valar Morghulis
Quote
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: BULLSHIT
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I'll eat a tree if this won't work now
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: ok
[CoH:EF-Dev]Rizz: I'll hold you to it
<10 minutes later>
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: I think I really gotta eat a tree...
[CoH:EF-Dev]Walki: got a decent one?
#105127

Re: Blackout Day

Now what important is the Megaupload's case. Which prove that the US gov don't need SOPA and PIPA to abuse the Internet, but chances they will be failed again. And what about torrent sites in the future? Things gonna get more excited... or not :P.
(My post is just the comment about current events, there is no direct suggestion about ideologies, any flame war begin from this, is purely the cause of the initiator after this comment. Whoa I have to use the disclaimer now)
I'm drunk now, I'm outranked you in philosophy.
#105133

Re: Blackout Day

Rizz wrote:
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!


Really ??? Where did you hear this from ???
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#105137

Re: Blackout Day

Rizz wrote:
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!


From what I heard, they are just postponing the vote about it. Not withdrawing it.
#105139

Re: Blackout Day

Tico_1990 wrote:
Rizz wrote:
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!


From what I heard, they are just postponing the vote about it. Not withdrawing it.


That sounds more likely :P
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#105153

Re: Blackout Day

Rizz wrote:
SOPA and PIPA has been dropped from both the House of Representatives and the Senate!


This was due to Lamar's site being ripped to pieces by the Anon team.
"Balancers are 10 a penny"
#105159

Re: Blackout Day

What is this "Anno" team I keep hearing about ???
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"
#105161

Re: Blackout Day

Anonymous is a very skilled group of anarchists and hackers who patrol the interwebs, protecting our freedoms (of the internet of course), attacking big businesses and corporations as well as other large gov't sponsored/supporting organizations.
#105163

Re: Blackout Day

neosdark wrote:
Anonymous is a very skilled group of anarchists and hackers who patrol the interwebs, protecting our freedoms (of the internet of course), attacking big businesses and corporations as well as other large gov't sponsored/supporting organizations.


They're more of "Hacktivist" than anything else. I wouldn't call them anarchist. They have the ability to love unlike most people think.

(They put a guy in jail by finding out his address and his phone numbers and giving them to the police. The guy posted a youtube video of him masked and he literally beat a cat to near death. Police found it and another cat with scars near their eyes and neck etc. When Anon found the video they found all the info out about the guy, even his facebook profile and the guy got like 7 years for animal abuse. Of course, not before Anonymous had ordered nearly $50,000 worth in pizza and take out combined to his doorstep, and had to change his name because of death threats. To top it all off, one of the hackers adopted Dusty :) )

EDIT: Though the videos are on the internet I recommend you do not watch them.
"Balancers are 10 a penny"

Last edited January 21, 2012 at 4:54 AM by Cranialwizard

#105164

Re: Blackout Day

They sound like digital robin hoods :P. Nice to know someones on our side :D
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Om Nom Nom Nom
"Panzer-Guppy ready for battle!"
"Ha Ha Ha! We have the ZEAL!"
"Grenadiers! Fall In!!"