What if...

Pac-Fish wrote:
Well Im pretty sure there are better ways to maintian population than through machine guns  :P

Nukes maybe?  ::)

Why are u quoting things from like months ago? I quite honesty have no recollection of saying these things

Pac-Fish wrote:
Why are u quoting things from like months ago? I quite honesty have no recollection of saying these things

I don't know.  Maybe its funny? :D

Cranialwizard wrote:

Phi wrote:
I continue to believe his biggest mistake was not allowing his generals to command, all the orders had to have been approved by him, another was the fact that had he taken out the RAF's airfields/airdomes instead of bombing London, he'd have been able to take out Britain in late '41 early '42.  The only thing Hitler could have done about Stalin is to build up an iron wall to the east, convince Japan not to attack the US and get the US to help in the war with the USSR. Hitler would have had nukes by '47 if that had happened, and the USSR would be seen as Nazi Germany is today, the 1000 year Reich could have still been around.

Public Opinion in the US would have never allowed that to happen. Though the US played it's Neutral card until Pearl Harbor, if anything, it would have never lended a hand to the Axis powers, they already had too much of a heavy investment economically in the Allies and culturally with the English.

Same way in WWI. Even if the US didn't code break the Zimmerman note, they still would have sided with the Allies unless attacked by one of them. They had much less economic ties to the Central Powers and did not share a common anything with them in all actuality.

That's not true, a lot of major American Companies were run by Nazi-Sympathizers, JFK's father was one, Gerald Ford was another. Roosevelt had a hard enough time even AFTER Pearl Harbour to convince the American people it was in their best interest to fight in WW2, Germany never would have won World War 2, but it sure as hell could've ended it better than it did.

TheVolskinator wrote:
Keep in mind, the German war machine was tooled for a 5 month war. Then Hitler decided, hell ,why not invade Russia. It's not like dozens of military armies that vastly overpowered the Russians and then froze to death have anything to teach me. In fact, let me delay a bit while I fap and try to get off on England after I take over France and the low countries.

The 'cheap' T34 far outclassed anything the Germans had when they first encountered it. Only their better coordination and use of their armor permitted them to beat the T34. Even in France, the Char B1 bis and Valentine/Matilda were nigh invulnerable to anything the Germans had,  it was their poor use that got them killed. The only thing the Germans had that could stand a remote chance vs. Allied armor was an 88 screen, and only Erwin Rommel made sense to employ in any significant capacity, and even then, only towards the end of the battle.

Germany was prepared for a fast war of sweeping success, basically, "5 PG -> T2 -> 2+ IHTs -> baserush and fuck teching" was their gameplan. It was Hermann Göring's utter incompitence with the Luftwaffe, and Hitler's singleminded obsession with Stalingrad that (IMHO) ultimately doomed the German war machine--disregard "Oh, if they'd just produced the Pz IV, they'd be fine". The Russians still would have outperformed them in every production capacity, and the Pz IV production lines would be an even bigger target--when they would get put out of action via Anglo-American bombing raids, the entire Germand armored output (instead of part of it) would be destroyed.

Yes it is rather funny how the allies were the ones with heavilly armored and armed tanks at the begginning of the war while the germans used greater numbers and better tactics to destroy them. heck even the M3 Lee/grant was a tough nut to crack when it came out.

Though on the eastern front, while there were KV-1 and T34 tanks, they were nowhere available in large numbers like they were later in the war, and it wasnt helped by the fact that many factories were being evacuated to the urals. Instead the majority of tanks faced were BT tanks, which could be taken on equally by german tanks at the time

But when they did run into heavy tanks they relied on heavy arty like the 88 to take them out, and it proved deadly to the brits in the desert since most of the tanks their lacked high-explosive shells to take out the 88's until tanks like the M3 lee/grant and sherman came along