Unit stats ingame

I meant the unupgraded marksman that comes outta the barracks

IMO the partisans should have 3 at max against infantry. Now they are basically commandos but they enter via houses and not gliders.

Tankbuster wrote:
I meant the unupgraded marksman that comes outta the barracks

Isn't marksman that unit from ostheer :P... that unit was already addressed.

Changed partisans(3/0/0/6), SU-85(2/5/7/3), SU-122(7/5/2/5), ISU-152(9/4/9/5) and KV-2(9/4/2/9).

Quotepartisans(3/0/0/6)

Nah... why 3? I think that are more better vs infantry. I think that it should be 5 or 6.

Dzierzan is right in some way. In the current version of EF Partisans are 5-6 versus infantry. However IMO thats waaay to good for partisans and in the next patch they are going to be more like a 3 . Right? XD
(Redguard would rage right now? Did I get the joke right? XD)

They have 7 vs Infantry IIRC, that's too much :). I have added 5 vs Infantry ;D.

Thats like volks with mp40s!.. Iam happy with that ^^

What Tankbuster is talking about it the SU Sniper B4 purchasing marksmanship rifle for 200 mp. He wants it to be something like 7/0/0/0 or maybe 5/0/0/0. B/C although it deals high amounts of dmg, its one guy :P

Fishhunterx wrote:
What Tankbuster is talking about it the SU Sniper B4 purchasing marksmanship rifle for 200 mp. He wants it to be something like 7/0/0/0 or maybe 5/0/0/0. B/C although it deals high amounts of dmg, its one guy :P

Nailed it

Fishhunterx wrote:
What Tankbuster is talking about it the SU Sniper B4 purchasing marksmanship rifle for 200 mp. He wants it to be something like 7/0/0/0 or maybe 5/0/0/0. B/C although it deals high amounts of dmg, its one guy :P

Sorry to interrupt,I think it could use 2/0/0/0 because its ridiculous small squad although it deals high damage :P

Naval Infantry hasn't been discussed yet right?
Could use 3/0/0/0 because of the SVT it gets.
+1 or +2(whichever you like) for each DP-28 it gets.Maximum is 2+4/0/0/0
+2 for every Anti Tank Rifle it gets.

Sorry for off-topic,what is the armor type of Naval Infantry?infantry_elite?

Yes, it is elite.

@ Black Bishop You better talk to the AI Devteam before you change anymore stats on the Battle Screen GUI. It may be causing AI bugs. ???

Nope, these stats don't affect AI. The AI bases on other section to decide if it uses an unit or not against something.

Why consripts's stats against infantry are 1+4 ?  Isnt this too much? I mean +4 from 3 extra rifles  ::) ???

Dreamerbg wrote:
Why consripts's stats against infantry are 1+4 ?  Isnt this too much? I mean +4 from 3 extra rifles  ::) ???

afaik the weapon stats on the unit themselves are set up pretty random anyways. Something to be redone for 2.000 Ostheer release I guess...

The Stats shown on gui are supposed to represent an anticlass value. I am not sure what category the +4 is directed at but it is probably either Ainf or Abuildings and is a reflection of the molotovs value against those classes of targets. Typical values between 0 - 10 are not uncommon and don't signify when multiple squads are engaged. Look for references to munitions units in the Data\ai files for definitions and calulations.

It was +4 because they gained 4 rifles and every rifles granted +1 (which I didn't agree with). Just like volks get +5 cause they get 5 MP40s

Bread wrote:
It was +4 because they gained 4 rifles and every rifles granted +1 (which I didn't agree with). Just like volks get +5 cause they get 5 MP40s

It doesnt make sense anyways...

This is already fixed in our internal version AFAIK.

Here is a complete redesign of the Conscript stats vs infantry:

So here we have conscripts that have a 1+4 (5) for infantry, which I can't stand.  So why not take away the +1 from the rifles, and just give them 2 vs infantry?  So here is the what I had in mine:

*Take away the +1 from each rifle slot
*Change the squads stats from 1 vs infantry to 2

So that pretty much means it has a 2 for infantry, something I am happy about (though if there were such thing I would give them a 1.5 vs infantry :P) , but what about the upgrade that gives them more rifles?  The solution would simply be by adding the same regular rifles that DO NOT have the +1.  So your probably asking me "well it doesn't make sense for a squad not to have no improvement on its vs infantry stats" but this is resolved by this way:

After purchasing the Conscript Rifle Upgrade:

*Add 2 Conscript Rifles slots that DO NOT add +1
*Add 1 Conscript Rifle slot that gives a +1

So in all, it has a 2 for infantry at the start, and after their extra rifle upgrade they get 2+1 which in all gives them 3 for infantry.  The +1 once again, would come from a different slot (though same weapon as all the others) but in that upgrade you have it give a +1 , but only give the squad ONE of this slot.

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SAS Raiders start out with 7 base against infantry even though they only have 3 Enfields, I think this is a mistake because when upgraded with Thompsons they end up 7+3 wich is RIDICULOUS unless they're just that good. I think you ment the outcome to be 7 as that is what many squads with automatic weapons end up to so they should start at 4 if my math is correct.

I see that the stats for the light recon vehicle for the British is all 0. Is it going to be fixed? Like to 1/5/5/3, I think?