Possibility of returning

I was just wondering if it would be possible for the following to return to EF as I thought that they were relevant, and I enjoyed using these units and ability.


Name: Jagdtiger
Type: Unit
Description: Tank Destroyer 128mm Pak 44 replaced the King Tiger
Reason: Although the Jagdtiger had very limited anti-infantry capabilities, and was also limited with the locked turret I would very much like to see it return to EF as I enjoyed blowing tanks to shreds with its mighty 128mm Pak 44.


Name: Commissar
Type: Unit
Description: Communist Officer armed with a PPSH-43
Reason: I would like to see the Commissar brought back and placed within the Conscripts either when they achieve full rifles from the Urban tree or an upgrade at the Outpost.


Name: Not one step backwards
Type: Ability
Description: The Commissar would shoot a conscript with his TT-33 side arm to break suppression.
Reason: I personally thought that this was a rather intresting ability that ties in with communism, I would like to see this ability return, possibly the same thing being able to break suppression, or something like inspiring the conscripts to fight better for a short period.

I know Jagdtiger is in fortress mode :P

Well, I would like to see the JT as PE reward unit of JP. Otherwise it only will stay in the fortress mode :(.

blackbishop wrote:
Well, I would like to see the JT as PE reward unit of JP. Otherwise it only will stay in the fortress mode :(.

Would it not make sense for the Jagdtiger to be a reward unit for the Elephant when the Ostheer are released?

No, Jagdtiger didn´t fight at the eastern front. Nor the Sturmtiger

Killar wrote:
No, Jagdtiger didn´t fight at the eastern front. Nor the Sturmtiger

I thought some were used in Austria against the Soviets?

One-eye wrote:

Killar wrote:
No, Jagdtiger didn´t fight at the eastern front. Nor the Sturmtiger

I thought some were used in Austria against the Soviets?

they surrendered to the soviets there. But used mainly on the western front

Killar wrote:

One-eye wrote:

Killar wrote:
No, Jagdtiger didn´t fight at the eastern front. Nor the Sturmtiger

I thought some were used in Austria against the Soviets?

they surrendered to the soviets there. But used mainly on the western front

Well what I know of the combat history they saw action on both the Western and Eastern Front, thus I think that the Jagdtiger is still relevant to EF.

the jagdtiger was alot of fun but i do prefer the tiger ace. I wish some place could be found for it. Variety is the spice of life.

If it replaces the Jagdpanther then you would need to raise the cp + mp cost. After all, its basically the same thing but better.

i would also prefer jagdtiger as a reward for the jagdpanther

the problem is just tankhunter doc has already a reward unit
im not sure it would be a good idea to make a 2nd one in the same doctrin.

or to say it better it is not a good idea :D
but it wouldnt fit in any other doctrin

maybe we will find a way jagdtiger could be used in a doc
but currently not

in my opinion, the unit is just too powerful for coh. its stats when we removed it were basically a copy of the isu152 before we overhauled it, we would have to seriously tone down the thing if it were to fit into the game

I would do that just to make it fit CoH ;D.

blackbishop wrote:
I would do that just to make it fit CoH ;D.

Then wouldn't be like an oversized Jagdpanther :3

Nope, would be stronger and slower than Jagdpanther. How much stronger? That would be up to balance :P.

QuoteThe Commissar would shoot a conscript with his TT-33 side arm to break suppression.
Reason: I personally thought that this was a rather intresting ability that ties in with communism.

Communism=to shoot people?? Interesting, Joshep McCarthy said you that?

lopolopez wrote:

QuoteThe Commissar would shoot a conscript with his TT-33 side arm to break suppression.
Reason: I personally thought that this was a rather intresting ability that ties in with communism.

Communism=to shoot people?? Interesting, Joshep McCarthy said you that?

ALERT! Potential flame war sighted!

lopolopez wrote:

QuoteThe Commissar would shoot a conscript with his TT-33 side arm to break suppression.
Reason: I personally thought that this was a rather intresting ability that ties in with communism.

Communism=to shoot people?? Interesting, Joshep McCarthy said you that?

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blackbishop wrote:
Nope, would be stronger and slower than Jagdpanther. How much stronger? That would be up to balance :P.

right it wouldnt make sense to add the jagdtiger as a reward for jagdpanther with the same stats and costs

but this would be part of the balance team to check if its ok or not :D

I think PE doesn't needs more AT Units... The only thing I could imaging is adding it like the tiger 205 as a reward unit for a campaign replacing the jagdpanther but having the same stats.

EDIT: Damn Evil was faster :p.

The good news is it might come back ;D ;D

The Commissar would shoot a conscript with his TT-33 side arm to break suppression.
Reason: is cool

Not one step back is already a part of the prop doc  ::)

Do you guys have decided ti bring the commissars back ? I think he is really best fit in the propaganda doctrine.

Topic is about Jagdtiger remember...

and iirc nobody has confirmed that something comes back :D

Mr.Q wrote:
Do you guys have decided ti bring the commissars back ? I think he is really best fit in the propaganda doctrine.

8 rifles when going Urban and a commissar when going propaganda and inspired speech when your breakthru. I like it. A custom unit like the ketten. :)

I like it but where would it go :P? Maybe with red tide you get officer with conscripts. Seems to fit :D

I too would love to see the Jagdtiger return, (reward unit)
truth is; I have actually never seen it/been able to use it in EF because I arrived to this mod to late :(
Never the less, its an awesome tank ;D

I read that you could "see" it in fortress mode or something.

Yeah. If you play as the Soviets then near the end (like 2 min left), a Jagdtiger will come rolling towards your base, along with KT's :D

I do apologise for not replying to my topic sooner as I was on Holiday for two weeks, though I am glad many of you have taken an intrest in this topic and that a few of you would like to see these units/abilities return to EF.

No rush :P :D

i to would love to see the jagdtiger return it fit so well into the terror doctrine and it was an equal of value reward unit for the king tiger the tiger ace is a down graded reward unit if a king tiger and a tiger ace had a one on one down a narrow street guess who would win? the KT however if the JT and the KT did a one on one it would be closer.


alternatively as it was mainly used in defensive operations in the German fatherland it could replace the flak 88 in the Wehrmacht defensive doctrine.

JT will not be back for either of those units. MAYBE you will see it replace something else.

Will it have a new skin? Dont get me wrong. I loved the jagdtiger but it werent exactly beautiful XD

A few people didn't like the Skin, But this ain't ain't a beauty contest ha ha.

I don't/didn't mind the Skin tbh, I remember playing a game where my ally brought in a KT and I brought a JT, and the soviet players didn't stand a chance.

So it may return then? It was no doubt a game changing piece of equipment and I think if it was used right in WW2 it would have proven that it was a fierce machine.

And of course R.I.P MrScruff

I remembered the Jagdtiger when i got this before, and when i realized the Jagdtiger was replaced, i was kinda sad :(. I personally liked the Jagdtiger and hope it returns (at least somewhere >_>). I just think that the tiger ace is kinda....useless In My Opinion (mostly not really good with tank micro). Besides, if the Tiger 205 can be balance to the ace-like unit, having the original tiger in its place, also, not really in-game related, if Shultz commands the Tiger Ace before, yet Voss in the 205 having Shultz in the crew before...isn't that a bit....odd?(just my opinion). Also, the problem with the jagdtiger, have the King Tiger being much faster than the Jagdtiger, and the Jagdtiger like a offensive cannon of terror, being tough and possibly a bit more expensive, but still being able to defeat with armor like the King Tiger (hopefully time will balance what happens). Finally, about the skins, for me, skins don't really matter, might as well change the tiger ace skin to the 205 and the 205 skin and original skin of the tiger isn't much of a difference either. Hope this solution helps. Weither it did or not, at least I got that say out of my system :-\.

I think it's been mentioned already somewhere that the Jagdtiger is returning. If not, oh well... yes, the Jagdtiger is coming back.

BurroDiablo wrote:
I think it's been mentioned already somewhere that the Jagdtiger is returning. If not, oh well... yes, the Jagdtiger is coming back.

Hooray ;D. This I honestly did not know :P

BurroDiablo wrote:
I think it's been mentioned already somewhere that the Jagdtiger is returning. If not, oh well... yes, the Jagdtiger is coming back.

Thank you

Yeah! Thank you <3 I loved the jagdtiger!

Now what will happen to their precious Pershings and IS-3s. They will get pwned.

Tankbuster wrote:
Now what will happen to their precious Pershings and IS-3s. They will get pwned.

Jagdtiger was really hard to balance (like other "Super-Heavy-Endgame-Tanks"), cause in the first versions he was OP. Looking forward for some epic battles of the beasts - Jagdtiger vs IS3 yaaayy  ;D

The King of Terror returns to crush the Allied Armour ha ha ha

He's not the King of terror.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
JT will not be back for either of those units. MAYBE you will see it replace something else.

Well I wasn't referring to the Doctrine I was just saying he is the King of Terror in general :p

GodlikeDennis wrote:
He's not the King of terror.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
JT will not be back for either of those units. MAYBE you will see it replace something else.

let me think, there is one more unit for the axis it could replace  ;) btw who said it will be for wehr?  :-X

GodlikeDennis wrote:
He's not the King of terror.

Correct, he's the king of wasted resources.. ;)

Jagd is a buildable replacement for the Kettenkrad... It can cloak and cap points. :P

BurroDiablo wrote:
Jagd is a buildable replacement for the Kettenkrad... It can cloak and cap points. :P

lol, you forgot to mention that it can call down V2s  ;D