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[WIP] Narva (4/6)

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#78490

[WIP] Narva (4/6)

Hi all!

Like I promised, I'll show you my new map, called "Narva". For these of you who don't know where and what Narva is/was, I'll give a short explanation:
In early 1944, following the Leningrad-Novgorod Offensive, the Red Army broke the siege of Leningrad and progressed towards the West.
On January 15th, 1944, they reached the River Narva. Heavy fightins continued, and in the second half of February, the Red Army was able to build up a bridgehead on the other side. However, the German resistance was so heavy, that the Red Army had to try breaking through further to the South.
In July 1944, the Operation Narva was introduced by the Soviet forces, which led to the liberation of Narva on June 26th with heavy losses on Soviet side. Nearly all historical buildings in Narva have been destroyed and were never rebuild after WW2.

The river will be crossable everywhere, the bridge to the South and the ford to the North are only there to ensure a faster way of crossing.

Here some pictures, featuring the designated Atmosphere setting:

Progress (X marks VP locations)
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A house in the South, belonging to the outskirts of the town named Narva
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View up from the river
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Bridge, ditch and waterwheel
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Update #2

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Update #3

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Remember that everything is WIP and stay tuned for future updates! :D
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Last edited July 15, 2011 at 2:01 AM by MaxiKing6

#78493

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Another map already, Maxi!? :o
#78494

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Yep, I'm on a roll and on holidays :P
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#78496

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

hey the first look is realy good
i like the positions of the vp´s

the bridge cant be destroyed right? i dont like destroyable bridges^^

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#78498

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

No, the bridge can't be destroyed. Well, at least not like normal bridges, though you can drop a shitload of arty on it and it may become impassible after a certain time ;D. But it's more of a high ford than of an usual bridge.
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#78500

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

LOL, I'm playing Hearts of Iron 3 now, and as Soviet Union I'm making my stand in Narva  :P and it's year 1941 :D
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OSTHEER IS DONE WHEN IT'S DONE!
#78502

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Time for a little Rendezvous then :P
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#78515

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

:o Dude you are a god-like mapper! Teach me oh master! :D
"Balancers are 10 a penny"
#78517

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Haha thanks :D
I will, if you pay me well.. just kidding, I will help you whenever it's possible.

The level of detail on those first screens may seem a little low, that's because I just added some clothlines and that wheel barrow, grass/crates/barrels will be added later on.
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#78659

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Looks good! I was planning on making a Narva map, but I'll leave this one up to you ;)
#78661

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Or you could both make a Narva map, and the community can vote on which is best! :D
#78663

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

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@Burro: Thanks! :D
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#78691

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

I only really make maps when I want to take a break from modelling/skinning. Only reason I'd planned on Narva is I'd been reading about the German Allied Estonian forces at Narva who battled against the Soviets and found it quite interesting.

I've only just finished Railroad Station One and have much skinning to do, so its good Maxi has taken up the burden :P

Last edited July 9, 2011 at 9:33 PM by BurroDiablo

#78696

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Hmm that's weak,  gained a victory without even a second of fighting.. ;)

I discovered Narva when I had some ideas for a new map, night, maybe even a summer night, dark green groves, oaks, a river, small islands of civilisation. Then I looked through Wikipedia and found an article about the Narva Operation. The name sounded quite good for a map and I took out Google Earth to compare my ideas with the reality of Narva and it fitted. Born was the map.
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#78697

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Google Earth? As in, modern day Google Earth? How similar would that location be to the world war 2 era as modern times?
#78698

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

The countryside in general doesn't seem to be changed since then..
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#78805

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Google Earth would probably be pretty good for this map as AFAIK Narva was never rebuilt.

@Maxi Do you have a list/link for all these tasty AGN maps you (and maybe Lord Rommel have produced). I have a sneaky suspicion that taken as a whole they spell CAMPAIGN. Has anyone been working on a map usable for an Operation Strachnitz scenario?
孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War
#78819

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

I don't recreate the town, I'm more into landscape and rural environments.
So first of all, what do you mean by AGN? You need to explain yourself, your whole post is currently a riddle to me..  :-\
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#78828

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

My apologies Maxi.

  1. AGN= Army Group North.

  2. To the best of my knowledge the town of Narva was leveled during WWII and never rebuilt. Google Earth may confirm this but in any case would give a better picture of the geography then it would for a heavily developed area.

  3. My username Otto 213 is a tribute to Otto Carius. (his tiger was numbered 213 or 217). He fought  a Lemburg, Dunaburg, Narva, west of Narva,(Strachnitz reference), etc. Early on in the development process LordRommel was working on several maps that could be used for a "battles of Otto Carius Type campaign" He has lobbied for this in one of the Campaign threads. I would like to see a campaign with such an orientation too.

  4. If the DevTeam is working on such a campaign; (as I hope),  I am interested in obtaining a list of maps (and/or download links) for this part of the mod. You are certainly aware of the difficulty of modeling actual geography in a RTS game setting.

If this still doesn't make sense PM me. Entirely too many wars have been caused when one guy didn't understand what the other guy meant.

孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War
#78829

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

I'm not so sure it's a good idea to use real people in the campaign. It would fit better with Company Of Heroes if the characters and companies etc. are all fictional.
#78831

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

No problem, now I clearly understand you. There is no real connection between Lord Rommels maps and mine, also the connection to Otto Carius is unintentional, neither I work on any campaign maps, although that would be some kind of next level challenge. If they want to have me, I'm always here.. ;)
Like I said, my map doesn't contain Narva as town, it's rather the fight for the river and the bridgehead I'd like to see represented.


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Last edited July 11, 2011 at 8:35 PM by MaxiKing6

#79691

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Update #3 is out!  :D
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#79731

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

looks nice!

clearly you are a mapping machine
#79738

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Killar wrote:
looks nice!

clearly you are a mapping machine


i really have respect for his good maps  :)
#79739

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

hehe im looking forward to the first map tests^^

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#79744

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Thanks I love you guys  ;D
Beta signups are open, closed beta can be exspected in two weeks.  ;)
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#79749

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

I don't think i want to fight on this map, man... Too scary! ;D
#79752

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Dammit. You just unveiled the hidden Nazi zombie mode on this map..

;D
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#79755

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Uh... I'm thinking about a new operation :D
I identify as a four-eyed bird man. /s
#79760

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

there's mod already, walki1  ::)
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Lord wrote:
OSTHEER IS DONE WHEN IT'S DONE!
#79855

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Quotethere's mod already, walki1  ::)


yes, and it sucks! :D
I identify as a four-eyed bird man. /s
#79901

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

They are hugely improving it. Look at their moddb page, you will see.
Ostheer is a new German faction for this mod.
It will be done when it is done.
Keep mapping and modeling.
Tell a friend about EF.
#80687

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

that looks quite impressive, and a six player map too!
#135069

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Are there any updates on this map?

Narva has always interested me, and I remember following this map way back when. I only just noticed that it hasn't come into the public eye yet.

I also remember slight feelings of resentment, as my original proposition to this mod was going to be Narva River (6), and just as I finished, the first screenshots came up.

Still, it's for the best that I didn't hand it in! This looks far better!
#135071

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Maxi posted that he abadoned it quite some time ago. But I can be wrong though.
I'm drunk now, I'm outranked you in philosophy.
#135073

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Dann88 wrote:
Maxi posted that he abadoned it quite some time ago.


Sadly, it's true. Dead end of creativity.
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#135086

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

That's a shame!

And you may be sick of hearing this from me, but when everything quiets down, want me to give you a hand?
#135092

Re: [WIP] Narva (4/6)

Sure, why not? Just give it a go ;)
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