who the best special force/elites?

i mean they are good at what they do. if they do evil shit they execute it good. their bullets dont miss the kids they want to kill. thats what i meant with good, they are well trained

Finnish Jaagers and SAS

Wow, what an old topic  :o

New people want to talk in old topics I guess :P

Trannyhunterx wrote:
New people want to talk in old topics I guess :P

Nothing wrong with it it's just like preforming CPR xD

Cranialwizard wrote:

Trannyhunterx wrote:
New people want to talk in old topics I guess :P

Nothing wrong with it it's just like preforming CPR xD

Actually, this is like revive the dead/create Frankenstein's monster/make zombie :P
I don't know the specific best special force but I know the one adept with explosive is the best. Image a potato-shaped C4 with time denator being tossed to the enemy, it ignores nearly everything and always cause dead. Move cover2cover, supressing fire, flanking? You're complicated noob, watch me toss something funny and then we can have some beers soon.
PS: forget about suicide bombers, it's a different story. We fight so we can live(fight) another day not to die with it.

this topic is too old to restart. if i see older stuff like the "my bridge" topic re-opened, i will be pissed. that thing lived too long anyways.

Australian/UK SAS are supposed to be the best. not sure why but that's what i heard and believe for now

There are so many special ops groups out there it's hard to point to one indefinitely. Operation Gladio is decent on the minor scale there.

WW2

My vote goes for the "Fallschirmjägers" Just look at the Skorzeny group who rescued Mussolini or the Storm Group Koch that took Eben Emael,
85 men took a fortress from around 1000 men = pwnage. 

Nowdays

Definately DeltaForce!!
Theyre requirements are so tough and you can't fail any of the test. Because they get so many recruits and exam them individually very carefull, they end up with some of the best boys for the job.
This is the elite of the elite.

maybe, but in the battle of crete falls kinda sucked.

i wouldnt be suprised. but it is an anti terror ubit, not an assault force.

stealthattack1 wrote:
maybe, but in the battle of crete falls kinda sucked.

From what I know, the Fallschirmjagers were well trained but their supplies and weapons were scattered everywhere and the weapons themselves sometimes fell into enemy hands since they were paradropped in boxes. Thus the need for FG42s. But later they became defensive troops who dominated the battle field.

Falls FTW

Has anyone else seen "The Eagle Has Landed"? Pretty good movie.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Has anyone else seen "The Eagle Has Landed"? Pretty good movie.

LOL only saw abit off it once, was a pretty old movie as far as i remember. But since you recommend it ill try to watch it again :D

Whats it about ???

Trannyhunterx wrote:
Whats it about ???

German fallshirmjäger on a rogue assasination mission or something

They try to capture Winston Churchill. There's some decent fight scenes for the time and Michael Caine is epic.

FSJ were some of the best armed-- an average US infantry company (200 men) would have 9 BARs and 2 .30 caliber MGs for it's mobile automatic firepower. It's German FSJ contemporary of about 160 men would be armed with no less then 40 MP40s or MP44s, and anywhere from 10-20 MG42s/MG34s, in addition to G43s and FG42s.

Motivation wise, Rangers take the cake. They went through some rough stuff to get as good as they did, and a Ranger battalion numbered around 200 men--the typical size of an average company (3 companies +a heavy weapons, engineering, or support company= 1 battalion).

For overall impact? The SAS, LRDG, or SOE. They sabatoged the allies' way to victory.

my vote for the best SF/Elite units has to go either for JTF2 or The Devils Brigade (predecessor unit to modern JTF2).

Can you explain what JTF2 stands for?

Joint Task Force 2, one of the canadian special forces units.

IDK but it seems the SEALs are starting to dominate the battlefield. Experience is everything.

very true that the SEALS are world class but as opposed to many other special forces units in the world such as GRU, SBS and many others the SEALS get more radio play as it were so people hear about them more same thing goes for the CIA. Due to the amount of radio play the CIA gets in popular media people think that they are the major spy agency in the US when in fact the largest is the DIA (defense intelligence agency)

My personal elite team are the guys from Sven Hassel's novels :D Joseph Porta, Lıttle John, Barcelona etc. Badass expandable guys who have no fear behınd enemy lınes ( Mostly in Soviet territory besides Finland ).

http://www.svenhassel.net/

My personal opinion is its gotta be out of the British SAS or Russian Spetsnaz

Two bad ass special forces :p

Riggsman wrote:
My personal elite team are the guys from Sven Hassel's novels :D Joseph Porta, Lıttle John, Barcelona etc. Badass expandable guys who have no fear behınd enemy lınes ( Mostly in Soviet territory besides Finland ).

http://www.svenhassel.net/

Really good books. The one about Monte Cassino is my favorite! However I do hope you know they are all fiction? :> ( no offense just want to check!)

QuoteMy personal elite team are the guys from Sven Hassel's novels  :D

Quote However I do hope you know they are all fiction? :> ( no offense just want to check!)

That fat smiley up there is your answer mate ; )

Well this one is a difficult question to answer. There are many possibilities for this question. I know the marines are not special forces but they are quite good at what they do. Take Iwo Jima for instance there were 22000 Japanese there and only 200 lived for thats 20000 Japanese deaths and only 6800 marines died.

Then if were talking modern or right after ww2 then i might have to go with the Israeli Commandos. They are some of the best trained and
very capable of taking on spetznaz or any other special force. The FSJ are good aswell.

Then this is more of a generalization i say Snipers are pretty elite if you're a good enough sniper the only thing that beats you is counter-sniper. If you don't believe me on that then think of the Snipers of Stalingrad. or who i see as the best Sniper in history Simo Hayha.
A Finnish sniper who killed 705 Soviet soldiers in The Winter War(1940)

The penal forces of SU! Criminals, party enemies, reunite! Forward into mines and machine gun fire so those behind us can safely move up without fear!

A rather obscure special forces/elite unit that fought in the eastern front was the Italian Bersaglieri.  This was a corps of elite light infantry regiments that fought with the Italian 8th army until it was virtually destroyed by the Dom River during the battle of Stalingrad in 1943.  The Italian's played a surprisingly large role in the early years of the this conflict and I find them interesting because they don't get very much attention. 

I cannot recall it quite clearly now, but the Red Army had special unit of engineers trained in destroying enemy hard points. They were armed with body armor, explosives, flamethrowers and shitload of captured panzerfausts (they were using more than 100 a day).