--idea for new soviets tanks--

Hell I would rather fight a 122 then an 85... does less damage to tanks O_o

Shadowmetroid wrote:
True. Keep in mind, however, that at least one person will cry OP about this.

They always do. :)

I love how COH nerfs stugs even though they used a gun with near identical statistics as that of the P4 long guns

I love how they nerf AT guns, Stug can't penetrate something? well just bring in a pak with THE EXACT same gun and blow it away.

Then tanks cannot shoot as far as AT guns lol? the opposite should be true as tanks often had superior optics if the AT guns had them at all

Doesnt the Bren carrier have "Shatter optics" ability haha I don't think the in-game crews used them in the first place. :)

Paciat wrote:
How about a SU-122 mobile artillery. It was a unit compareble to StuH but it could be an arti as well(mobile fire base). It was a rare gun but why not?

I gotta say that i Do love this idea Paciat. "It was a rare gun but why not?" Well, right. why not. Rilic doesnt care about facts like this as well.

But at the moment im just thinking about a sensefull slot in the soviet army to put it down (as a reward unit for sure). Surely its a heavy gun, so we gotta replace another heavy gunner.

My suggestions are replacing the -

1) KV-2 because its the most similiar unit thinking about how it would act like. Would also fit the style of urban fighting.

2) ISU-152 Since this vehicle can also be used as a breakthrough unit to replace the "taking forever to reload bigboy beastslayer which is in some eyes OP and in others just useless". A lot would like this for sure.

3) IS-2 non doctrinal SU-122?
sounds strange. but howw, maybe this would be a fresh idea. But yet i cant image by myself how this unit would work as a non doctrinal one. Saying - dangerous idea though..


Regards

The KV-1 would be really cool. The only question is whether to have it called in or manufactured. If it were my decision, I would have it manufactured, and given the ability to be upgraded to an 85mm gun, but thats just me.

I agree.

T-26!!!!!!!

Yeah T-26 would be cool but its a bit worn out by 1944.

comrade2012 wrote:
The KV-1 would be really cool. The only question is whether to have it called in or manufactured. If it were my decision, I would have it manufactured, and given the ability to be upgraded to an 85mm gun, but thats just me.

This is something I raised in a thread regarding the KV1 as a reward unit until it was locked.

While i like the vehicle selection for the Soviet Army as it now sits, the only tanks/vehicles i would like to see would be the BT-7 fast tank (as fast as the Hellcat tank destoyer), and that would be it. We don't need lend lease vehicles, we don't need trucks, and we don't need a replacement for certain doctrine units.

Panzer4life wrote:
While i like the vehicle selection for the Soviet Army as it now sits, the only tanks/vehicles i would like to see would be the BT-7 fast tank (as fast as the Hellcat tank destoyer), and that would be it. We don't need lend lease vehicles, we don't need trucks, and we don't need a replacement for certain doctrine units.

The funny thing about COH is that M-10 is faster than M-18 and Sherman is faster than Cromwell. Anyway BT-7 would be a smaller faster T-34.

You dont like the idea of a KV flame tank?

Yes, except the Bt-5/Bt-7 didnt have 75mm gun, it only had a 45mm

Last edited April 15, 2010 at 2:25 AM by comrade2012

what about the SU-76 Assult gun as a reward unit for the T-90
It would an effective anti tank vs medium tank but be weak against heavy tanks and would be okay vs inf but not as effective as the T-90 and still have the weak armour of the light tanks

2 things The KV-85 was made in very small numbers as a stop gap against tiger Is till enough IS2's could make it to the front and Paciat the Sherman was actually the slowest medium tank of the war at about 25 MPH (cromwell could do 40 and even panthers could do 30-35 MPH) but you are pretty right on the m10 comparison they were almost identical besides the armament.

The Panther was faster than the M4 Sherman, but not as fast as the later Sherman's. However, most of the time the Panther couldn't reach its max speed capabilities because it was rushed into the war, and consequently had some major mechanical issues.

Lol. Shermans were out before panthers. Then when Sherman got improved, panthers came out.

No. the M4 sherman was first introduced in North Africa in 1942. The first Panthers ( Panther D) came out just in time for the battle of Kursk(1943), and was a dissaster. Their engines were all cathing on fire!!!! So, the Germans fixed it.

Now, the Panther became a really good tank and the allies realized we didnt have anything as good. All we had was the Sherman. In late 1944/early 1945 we made the Sherman M4A3E8 which had a long barrel 76mm gun, HVSS suspension, and a Ford V8 engine(which made it faster than the Panther).

Panthers were upgraded too. However, all the upgrades the Germans gave the Panther made it slower, not faster. They gave it a redesigned hull, and additional armor. Whereas American Shermans were upgraded in mobility.

comrade2012 wrote:
Yes, except the Bt-5/Bt-7 didnt have 75mm gun, it only had a 45mm

The Bt5/7 normally had a 45mm 20k, same as the T70.

the BT7A, however, featured a short barreled 76mm KT26 howiser to use vs infantry. it woul dbe cool to see a fast unit with a powerful anti fort/inf howister.

guynumber7 wrote:

comrade2012 wrote:
Yes, except the Bt-5/Bt-7 didnt have 75mm gun, it only had a 45mm

The Bt5/7 normally had a 45mm 20k, same as the T70.


the BT7A, however, featured a short barreled 76mm KT26 howiser to use vs infantry. it woul dbe cool to see a fast unit with a powerful anti fort/inf howister.

cool, I did not know that. That would definately be a cool upgrade to have.

M4A2(76)W "Emcha"

Last edited June 1, 2010 at 8:51 AM by UeArtemis

Don't the soviets already have a sherman?

thats the one their using

I have a Question and i would say here,because i don't want to create another topic just for that.

This model can be used in EF ?
http://artist-3d.com/free_3d_models/dnm/model_disp.php?uid=1490&count=count

It is not true that T-34-57 with 57mm cannon, which is very good pierce armor tigers and panthers from 1000 meters. Developers, remove the tanks T-70 and T-90, better make the BT-7 and KV-1.

Nope...on both the above posts  :P