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1.702 The T-34/76

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#143384

1.702 The T-34/76

So, ive been playing with the T-34/76 more lately. Been a fan of these tanks for a long time. (recently bought a 1/35 scale model of one, really nice ;D)

But i feel like the 76 model is pretty crappy ingame, the cannon is fine(since its based on the shermans 75mm, but its armour feels weak, and its accuracy/sight range is horrible.
I dont really see the point in making its accuracy and sight so bad ingame ??? i mean, if i understand the coh stats correctly the T-34 has a 30% chance to miss shots even at point blank range :-\ which is pretty wierd imo

Is anything being done about its sight range?? a commanders cupola upgrade would be really useful ;D

And finally, is there any way to see how much hitpoints it have?? Can't find anything in the Unit section, and the EF section of the Coh wiki is pretty outdated.

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Last edited March 3, 2013 at 1:07 AM by Orle

#143393

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

Do you have corsix mod studio and some experience with it?  You can open the "Eastern_Front.module" located in 'C:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes' with corsix mod studio, then you can check the Ebps of the T34 and see its hit points/armor type.
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#143399

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

132 wrote:
Do you have corsix mod studio and some experience with it?  You can open the "Eastern_Front.module" located in 'C:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes' with corsix mod studio, then you can check the Ebps of the T34 and see its hit points/armor type.


Oh ;D so i just google this corsix thing to download it then?? dont have any experience with it :P ill check it out
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#143415

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

I think the t-34 is getting a buff next patch, but I don't know if it's both the 76 and the 85, or just one of them.
#143416

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

I think it's supposed to be a trade off of accuracy and resilience in favor of speed and production time/cost
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#143418

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

Pac-Fish wrote:
I think it's supposed to be a trade off of accuracy and resilience in favor of speed and production time/cost


indeed

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#143457

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

Thanks for the replies, really appreciate it ;D
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#143521

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

Also, the gun on the t34/76 has better penetration than the one on the sherman as well, but you have to make sure you can hit the enemy tank first  ;D

Some solutions to this problem include getting up close to the enemy (not recommended against infantry wielding handheld AT however), or stopping the tank before it fires, since firing on the move greatly decreases accuracy even more (this tactic is also used with the cromwell as well, since it has horrible accuracy on the move in comparison to other tanks)
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Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

robotnik wrote:
Also, the gun on the t34/76 has better penetration than the one on the sherman as well, but you have to make sure you can hit the enemy tank first  ;D

Some solutions to this problem include getting up close to the enemy (not recommended against infantry wielding handheld AT however), or stopping the tank before it fires, since firing on the move greatly decreases accuracy even more (this tactic is also used with the cromwell as well, since it has horrible accuracy on the move in comparison to other tanks)


Oh, the pen is better?? Good to know  ;D Shoot and scoot is really useful ofc, but with the really bad accuracy, you end up missing even at close range :-\
In what changelog can i see its current vet btw ???
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#143583

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

lets see...

T-34
Vet 1 - 20% increase in accuracy
Vet 2 - 20% more penetration
vet 3 - 15% more range


so if you do get it to vet 1 it helps with the T34's accuracy problem  :P
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#143588

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

ah, nice ;D

It would be very useful to have more info in the unit section btw, things like hitpoints, vet bonuses ;)
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#143592

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

robotnik wrote:
lets see...

T-34
Vet 1 - 20% increase in accuracy
Vet 2 - 20% more penetration
vet 3 - 15% more range


so if you do get it to vet 1 it helps with the T34's accuracy problem  :P

I can understand why Soviet Infantry get worse vet than Americans

But vehicles?  Come on now.
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#143596

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

132 wrote:
robotnik wrote:
lets see...

T-34
Vet 1 - 20% increase in accuracy
Vet 2 - 20% more penetration
vet 3 - 15% more range


so if you do get it to vet 1 it helps with the T34's accuracy problem  :P

I can understand why Soviet Infantry get worse vet than Americans

But vehicles?  Come on now.


Well, american vehicles are harder to get vet, even more so since their vet 1 bonus (25% increase in speed) is basically useless, and even more so because a speed boost means nothing without an acceleration boost

Actually because of the crappy Vet 1 bonus for american vehicles i would consider american vehicle vet to be worse overall

Orle wrote:
ah, nice ;D

It would be very useful to have more info in the unit section btw, things like hitpoints, vet bonuses ;)


Ah yes it would. I was actually thinking of using the skills im learning with visual basic to maybe make a program which parses unit info for a mod and displays all the important stuff in an easy to use way
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Last edited March 8, 2013 at 3:44 AM by robotnik

#143964

Re: 1.702 The T-34/76

The t-34/76's 76gun has very low accurcy:50% chance to hit at 20m-40m,60% at 10m-20m,70% at 0-10m ingnore its modifies to different target.....But he modifiers to most tanks and vehicles and all infantry are 1.So the whole percentage of hits isnt so bad I think,especially in close combat....