Bye all

I won't be very active, if at all on the forum from now and will likely cease to play 1.7. Thanks for anyone I've had games with over the years and especially Crani for hosting the GPW tourney that was a lot of fun, and the other balancers and devs I worked with. It was fun while it lasted. Darc, Killar, Donthateme, Crani, Riggs, Ape, Glimz, JB, Yauz, Snugz, Paciat, Dzierzan - you were all both a pain (:P) and a pleasure to work with and I wish all of you the best. Sorry if I won't be around to answer any technical questions anymore in the forums. Everyone will have to learn Corsix on their own.

To the community; if you want to see EF succeed you will need to be more active from now on. Arrange games, test for bugs, try to help balance, post replays, host tourneys. Do anything you can to help this mod from going under or it will fade away into obscurity. If you continue to love playing EF, you need to continue to support it. Demand more from the devs in terms of information. Make more suggestion posts. Help shape Ostheer into what you want it to be.

Goodbye.

Last edited December 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM by GodlikeDennis

I am in full agreeance and sadly, support of your decision Dennis. I hope that we can find work in a more respectable environment, since we have not found one of over 2 years of work for some of us.

I can't fathom that it came to this and I sincerely want to thank you for all the work you've done, and also want to thank Riggs, Darc, Killar, Ape, Glimz, Yau, Snug, JB, Paciat, Burro, Maxi, Bish, even redguard, as you were both a struggle to work with sometimes and a pleasure to work with sometimes. I am proud of what we've done for this mod, and I want to thank all the people who worked with TGPW and played, I may not have been the best coordinator but I hope you all enjoyed. I may not be able to guarantee your access to the beta, winners, because I have tried under developer promises for some time now and they seem uninterested, even after confirming it was possible at the beginning and the end of the tourney. I hope you all enjoyed and perhaps I can host another at some time if OH becomes released.

Thanks Dennis <3 I will miss you!

May I ask where you are going? XD

Send me a PM if its personal or just dont care of ansvering ;)

It is a shame EF is losing its members like this. But everyone is free to make their choice. I don't know you very well so I can't give a nice little goodbye. But I wish you the best.

And who will give me advice when I keep posting in the strategy and tip section ;D

You shall be missed! Balancing maps with you was always a pleasure. Message me if you want to consider my offer.

Dennis, you are he guy who bring me to this mod with your cast. In fact you bring me back to playing COH, so I must thank you for this.
It was a plaesure to be your mentee.

I still hope that you are looking at wrong calendar and this is 1st April joke... and tomorrow everything will change to better statment for the mod, which means you and other removed balancers to be back and get respect that you guys deserve.

Thanks for the offer Maxi but I think I'm well and truly done. Hope those wonderful maps you've made and collected are released, even if OH is not.

Sommar; several members of the balance team were kicked from the balance team, myself among them, due to a long standing disagreement with the devs. I asked to be removed unless certain rights were yielded, and they were not. As a result, I have lost interest in this mod and will look to something else to occupy my time. I only hope the work I have already invested is not wasted and that everyone has enjoyed playing Soviets over the past few years.

Thanks Dreamer, it was fun to get you to a working state, just like Soviets. :D
I hope you continue to improve and maybe we can play some more games in future if I feel like it in that time.

Last edited December 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM by GodlikeDennis

Just msg me in steam :)

What was the disagreement if you don't mind me asking. Must of been pretty big to cause this.

No!!! This can't be happening!!! I love GLD!! And i love the Sublime casts that you co-host!! WHY??!? WHY??! WHY?!?! Well i know why because you already told us but still WHY?!? I'm going to miss you! I sure hope we can still talk on Steam for all my important Total War questions.

What other balancers were kicked because i don't want to lose more people!

Viperthug91 wrote:
What was the disagreement if you don't mind me asking. Must of been pretty big to cause this.

Perhaps the developers will enlighten you, because I'm tired of repeating it, and so are my brothers eliminated like me. I was hardly involved in such action until I stood up for some of the other guys.

This will delay the Oh by months if it comes out at all. I urge you to take Dennis' advice if you want new patches, even if you want a new hotfix.

The developers brought doom upon themselves. And you know who you are.

It was all about power, as you can imagine. And please don't say "the balancers" or "the developers" - there were exceptions on both sides.

MaxiKing6 wrote:
It was all about power, as you can imagine.

I always hated this kind of situations.

I'm sorry!  :(

Its always a sad day when politics finds it way into anything.

And Cranialwizard your saying if the Ostheer even does get completed Company of heroes 2 will already be released? If so Then December 16th is the Day this Mod died.

If that is the case and its over hopefully whats done of OH will be released to at least give some satisfaction to the people who have been waiting Years for it.

With that being said the work that was put in is Very much appreciated.

all i have to say here is i cant find the words how sorry i feel for what has happened
it looks like the night of the long knifes...

i can hardly belive this was it worth
loosing 8 ppl on one single day is a shame


i just want to say thank you, all of you how helped to improve the project all the time
it was fun to work with all of you and i hope we will stay in contact (at least i guess we will^^ i will stalk you in steam :P)

Time to play CoH 2 beta I guess...

so everything stays the same conscript spam FTW :P

Well isn't OH in like a alpha/beta type thing?

If it's not going to be completed, then release what you have if the mod is dying...  :P

Ah...no, mod isnt dying ... just change in directions. At this point this change look sooo bad , maybe soon this  ship will turn on 180 degrees

I wish you all the best Dennis!

Dreamerbg wrote:
Ah...no, mod isnt dying ... just change in directions. At this point this change look sooo bad , maybe soon this  ship will turn on 180 degrees

The balancers made a lot of design changes and they will remain in place, we're not doing a complete 180, that would be even more counter productive.

Viperthug91 wrote:
What was the disagreement if you don't mind me asking. Must of been pretty big to cause this.

We lacked experienced players as designers from the outset, in my mind because the Ostheer was the first faction in which the entire Dev team was free to be as creative as possible and most experienced players left us when v1.0 Soviets was a shambles. We designed the Ostheer initially to our own predilections, and when balancers were brought in a large amount was changed to make the design more cohesive. Unfortunately this caused a lot of tension, a lack of communication and respect built up on both sides over the past year, it became insurmountable and this week it simply boiled over. Including experienced players that know the intricacies of CoH as Designers and Developers from the beginning would have solved many of our issues, it's a mistake we're unlikely to make again, without direction creative freedom just becomes redundant.

Tehcumseh wrote:
Well isn't OH in like a alpha/beta type thing?

If it's not going to be completed, then release what you have if the mod is dying...  :P

Of course, development will continue, but the balance will mostly be up to community discussion during the closed beta, so stay tuned for that.

Saying that I maen to shake hands with balancers once again , forget about the past and build a better future.

Okay, misunderstood. I thought you were assuming we'd roll back all the balancers design changes (which would take ages). We just want to develop the mod as normal, finish off whatever remains and then get out the closed beta for balance testing. The more we sit discussing things the longer development takes, we have to work to deadlines so unfortunately the time for parle has passed.

Hey Guys,

All who watched the Sublime shoutcasts which I was playing, my Twitchtv streams and replays, the people who I played with or against;

Take care, enjoy the New Year, have fun!

It was nice to know you all. I don't think I will keep playing EF anymore or stream, so see you in another game maybe in COH2? ^^

Follow my stream for COH games and maybe diff mods who knows? :D

Bye

Firstly, my thanks to everyone who is leaving us! I may only have been a face with a name for a few months, but I've been following your work since you all first started here, so I'm honored to have been witness to your work.

That being said, while it is sad to see you go, this is a voluntary community after all, and nobody can be expected to stay forever! Thanks for everything you've done, and I hope you leave considering this a positive experience, rather than a negative result.

It's time for the rest of us to rally together and rise from the ashes.

Geez I didn't even realize so many ppl how left O_o

Just out of curiosity, who are the ppl who got kicked? So far all I know are Darc, GLD, Crani, Riggs, Ape, and Killar (whch tbh is almost everyone)

Whose left ??? ? Is there like, no balance team atm?

Last edited December 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM by Pac-Fish

Well I've lost all faith in humanity when people can't get along in video games... No wonder why we fight over everything else stupid and humanity is doomed...

I'm going to miss everyone... Why do all of the people I've internet bonded with have to be kicked out...

Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer. Maybe all this is a fresh start and the mod will take off again, or maybe it will burn to the ground. The community will have to decide for yourselves how active in the development process you want to be and keep this mod alive. Though, look on the bright side. The end is nigh! anyway so it wouldn't have mattered. :P

Thanks for the words Burro. You have always been a stand up guy, and you too Maxi. Many of the devs I worked with were great guys. Certain others... not so much.

at the behest of Crani I'm going to repost a goodbye quote to everyone who has contributed to the mod in the past:
(He can't anymore, because he got banned because of apparent childish behaviour)

cranialwizard wrote: I do wish to thank each and every person I played with and against in this mod and wish everyone luck, they're gonna need it. I had hoped we could put our silly little differences aside but it seems as if it had escalated far beyond fixing, even to the point where I had been banned for a full week after a post made this morning. I especially want to thank maxiking for his help with The Great Patriotic War, he's done a lot, and I will take up on your offer mate.
Until COH2 and other games, you can find me on steam...Cheers!

Farewell, and take care.

Anyone has other ways to communicate with GLD? Skype? Steam?

You can contact them through steam with their forum names.

GLD- UncleDennis(steam) is the exception I believe.

it ain't over till the fat lady sings.I don't hear no fat lady singing.

I'm shocked...I never thought that the EF team ever gets into this kind situations.  I always thought everyone who was part of the team was alwayw treated well until now.  And thanks to Dennis for your effort in contributing to this mod in making it well balanced you will be missed like many others.

Boy was I late to see this shitstorm unfold.  First Snugz, then Dennis.  Seems the devs wouldn't let up.  So be it then.  I haven't been very active on these forums lately either, but this seems to have sealed the deal for me.  I'll take this opportunity to salute everyone I've played with.  Had a hell of a time playing and casting EF too.  Shit, as I'm writing this, I somehow even remember all the fights I had with that IJoe fag from so long ago.  Hopefully I'll still keep in touch with a few of the guys over MSN or Skype.

Time to concentrate on more RL things such as bombing exams, drifting till my tires turn to shit, and COH2 later I guess.  PEACE OUT MOFOS!  ;)

hey guys,

i realy want to say thank you for all the nice hours we shared together. even if we was not always the same opinion it was most of the time fun to work with all of you. i will always look back to the nice time we had together on this project

special thx to the following guys: godlikedennis, killar, darc, ashes, crani, snugz, simuz, yauz, glimz, jb, donthateme and even redguard^^

without these guys ef wouldnt be what it is now

i realy hope we will stay in contact

If anyone stay in touch at least post their contact details like Skype, yahoo or gmail etc... :P

Then I wish to thank all of you guys that are leaving us . You will always have my respect and legend status in my eyes!
sorry if I was annoying sometimes !

Dann88 wrote:
If anyone stay in touch at least post their contact details like Skype, yahoo or gmail etc... :P

I can be found on xfire and skype: darcreaver, steam acc is stymmie.

you can find me in steam: evilSpike (avatar is a pic of spawn)

Dann, dude ... make a steam account and install it  :)

Well, if the Ballancers were being disrespected. Im somewhat disgusted.
Without ballancers the mod would of been a piece of shit really, because i played 1.0 >.<
they were a small enough team as it was, oh well i ghuess.
Im still looking forward Ostheer, if it gets released.
Hopfully the devs will get some more ballancers though good ballancers are hard to find.
It would be a shame to see EF crumble and burn.

BffWithDEATH wrote:
Without ballancers the mod would of been a piece of shit really, because i played 1.0 >.<

v1.0 had plenty of balancers, but the release was rushed.

Ze Drama!

Cya.

dennis what happened?! did the devs finally curb your relentless and crazed soviet nerf campaign? :-X oh well you did your damage mission accomplished huh? lol

sadly this mod died many many patches ago. when Redguard the communitys most talented balancer who brought you all things like the IS-3 and IJoe a true comrade were victimised and ran outta here by dennis and many other double agents who infiltrated and ultimately destroyed the Soviet faction, and this mod as a whole.

very very tragic
oh well COH2 will finally show the non believers a true representation of soviet balance

if the EF ministry of propaganda(dev/mod team) censcores this message from the community then you will know it is the perverbial nail in the coffin for this mod. despair not comrades we will have our glorious return when coh2 is released then the Soviets will rise again!

Last edited January 24, 2013 at 8:23 AM by SovietVictory1945

SovietVictory1945 wrote:
dennis what happened?! did the devs finally curb your relentless and crazed soviet nerf campaign? :-X oh well you did your damage mission accomplished huh? lol

sadly this mod died many many patches ago. when Redguard the communitys most talented balancer and IJoe a true comrade were victimised and ran outta here by dennis and many other double agents who infiltrated and ultimately destroyed the Soviet faction, and this mod as a whole.

very very tragic
oh well COH2 will finally show the non believers a true representation of soviet balance

1) lol? what are you talking about? kidding or are you serious?
2) no
3) im definetly sure you are kidding here. coh2 was imo the most unbalanced and horrible gameplay i have ever seen!

Redguard thoroughly dismantled dennis in many 1v1s the replays r on gamereplays .com i knew when the split in the community occurred this mod was dead and after a very succesful crusade to destroy this mod dennis ultimately had his revenge. guess the devs finally caught on but it was too late damage is now irreversible and caused the coh community to lose much respect for this mod thats why its dead

glad to see the traitor leave but too little too late

Last edited January 24, 2013 at 8:35 AM by SovietVictory1945

ApeMen wrote:

SovietVictory1945 wrote:
dennis what happened?! did the devs finally curb your relentless and crazed soviet nerf campaign? :-X oh well you did your damage mission accomplished huh? lol

sadly this mod died many many patches ago. when Redguard the communitys most talented balancer and IJoe a true comrade were victimised and ran outta here by dennis and many other double agents who infiltrated and ultimately destroyed the Soviet faction, and this mod as a whole.

very very tragic
oh well COH2 will finally show the non believers a true representation of soviet balance

1) lol? what are you talking about? kidding or are you serious?
2) no
3) im definetly sure you are kidding here. coh2 was imo the most unbalanced and horrible gameplay i have ever seen!

>Plays an Alpha
>Considers it unbalanced.
I sure hope you guys don't do this.

Redguard, if you're going to make a sockpuppet account to circumvent your ban, do it right or don't bother.

What is that Sovietblahblah bitch trying to do? His posts are clearly true examples of what we call bullshits. :|

He has a dog in this fight or he's suffering a tremendous butt-hurt.