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Polish National Anthem

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#119799

Polish National Anthem

The Polish national anthem. Not quite Sabaton but the spirit is the same:

composer: Józef Wybcki

tune:  "Dąbrowski's Mazurka") -aka Dombrowski

Poland has not yet died,
So long as we still live.
What the alien power has seized from us,
We shall recapture with a sabre.
March, march, Dąbrowski,
To Poland from the Italian land.
Under your command
We shall rejoin the nation.
Like Czarniecki to Poznań
Returned across the sea
To save his homeland
After the Swedish occupation.

March, march... We'll cross the Vistula and the Warta,
We shall be Polish.
Bonaparte has given us the example
Of how we should prevail.

March, march... The German nor the Muscovite will settle
When, with a backsword in hand,
"Concord" will be everybody's watchword
And so will be our fatherland.

March, march... A father, in tears,
Says to his Basia
Listen, our boys are said
To be beating the tarabans.
March, march... All exclaim in unison,
"Enough of this slavery!"
We've got the scythes of Racławice,
God will give us Kościuszko.
孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War
#119970

Re: Polish National Anthem

What's the point of this thread. And this is an old version of polish anthem. Today's one is shorter.
#120204

Re: Polish National Anthem

Mr TheDzieranPL,
I have noted several threads and posts regarding music of martial and patriotic flavor mentioned and discussed in the EF_Mod Forums. When I came across citation of the Polish National Anthem it was found in an article concerning The French Directorate's 1796 Italian campaigns; It is my understanding The anthem was composed by Polish expatriot soldiers in Italy longing to return to their homeland, Poland; A country which did not then exist due to the imperialistic ambitions of the Russian and Prussian nobility. The role of various Polish revolutionaries in the struggle for political independence and republican ideals of self government is not lost upon me. Names like Dombrowski, Poniatowski and Kosciusko strike a chord in the hearts of freedom loving people everywhere. AFAIK it was the Poles who in creating the Sejm invented the concept of a Bicameral Legislature, The model for the Congress of the USA. The Poles also introduced the legislative veto, a two edged sword to be sure; but still a great step forward in the republican ideal. If printing a copy of the Polish anthem can inspire some of the EF_Community to investigate some of the contributions of the Polish people to the world it is worthwhile to do so.

I chose to print the older version of the Polish Anthem because the translations available to me of the modern versions contained too many Polish conventions that were unfamiliar to me. The length of the particular version used is insignificant. I can not speak for the Poles in this regard but in my country people usually only know and sing the first verse of the national anthem anyway. You may be interested to learn that I will be adding Dombrowski's Mazurka to my musical repertoire. It is a really good dance tune.

Since you have decided to give me the rostrum here I will add one additional comment that is slightly off topic. The greatest contribution of the Polish Nation to the successful conclusion of WWII, AFAIC, occurred in 1936 when Poland obtained and cracked the German naval code, ENIGMA. Without this code in hand many more U-Boats would have survived and many more convoys on the Murmansk Run would have been sunk.

If you have personal or nationalistic objections to any version of your national anthem being reproduced in this Forum, I will remove it.
孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War

Last edited May 21, 2012 at 10:26 AM by Otto Halfhand

#120418

Re: Polish National Anthem

It's not the old version. It's exactly the same one. People are too lazy to sing it entirely, that's why.
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#120420

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iirc, both ceph and dzieran are from poland, so if anyone has a right to post on a polish thread, its them.
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#120524

Re: Polish National Anthem

cephalos wrote:
It's not the old version. It's exactly the same one. People are too lazy to sing it entirely, that's why.


Well, i know a lot of Poles who don't know entire anthem, i mean they only know 1 or 2 verses of 4 (todays' version). They don't know what's the name of polish anthem or they call it "Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła" (english - Poland has not yet died) which is obviously wrong. Or even they don't know who wrote it. And they call patriot themself... fools.
#120607

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TheDzierzanPL wrote:
cephalos wrote:
It's not the old version. It's exactly the same one. People are too lazy to sing it entirely, that's why.


Well, i know a lot of Poles who don't know entire anthem, i mean they only know 1 or 2 verses of 4 (todays' version). They don't know what's the name of polish anthem or they call it "Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła" (english - Poland has not yet died) which is obviously wrong. Or even they don't know who wrote it. And they call patriot themself... fools.


Actually you don't have to know anthem, know what's your capital or president. It's knowledge, it's useful. Being patriot means that you love your country no matter what, and you would do everything for it. That's patriotism, not showing "how patriotic I am!" to everyone. I know many patriots, true patriots, who care about Poland. I think that most of them don't know whole antherm.
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#120654

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Actually I believe thats called nationalism. Nationalism is when you love your country despite what it may be doing. Patriotism is when you're willing to defend you country b/c you love it or feel the need to protect it.
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#120678

Re: Polish National Anthem

Fish the two terms are in a way, interchangeable.

Patriotism is defined as a feeling of love and support for one's nation or the cause of creating said nation (thus why Slavic patriots demanded for the creation of an All-Slavic state (Yugoslavia) and separation from Austria-Hungary before WWI).

Nationalism is the feelings of support for one's nation and similar peoples/cultures. Nationalism encompasses patriotism but can extend quite a bit farther, specifically to the point of propaganda and over zealous support for the peoples' action despite any faults in said actions.

Patriotism only applies to the people who are such, nationalism seeks to point out a nation's superiority. A patriot will love his country, but will attempt to fix any problems he sees with it. A nationalist will idolize his country/people/culture and put it above all others, painting all others as inferior (often, not always though) and finding no flaws in his idol.