[1.60] What do you think of Soviet Tank Hunters?

Sir wrote:
They ALWAYS immobliize tanks ????

They used to immobilize ALL THE TIME last patch. IIRC the chance for "Immobilize" (destroyed engine) is now something about 60% and 40% for damaged engine.

yeah, tank hunters aren't a hard counter to ac's by any means but they are enough of a deterrent.  My comments were being used, but I wasn't suggesting that the ac tank hunter dynamic by itself was the particular problem.  my beef is more with tank hunters vs PIVs. 

As to the at mines,  what is the radius on these?  I get 3 immobilized tanks to 1 at mine far too frequently.  You could argue "play better" and there's some merit to that in regards to bunching or not bunching tanks, but this seems like way too much bang for the buck, no?

Well you shouldnt mob all your tanks together on one spot. It's way more effective to use 1-2 heaviest tanks as meatshiled and the other tanks flank the enemy poistion.

Joshua9 wrote:
[...] but this seems like way too much bang for the buck, no?

Na it isn't, it's a good reason to get the tank hunter upgrade.

so then, is the radius the same as PE AT mines?  If so, I should probably just accept it as is...if its bigger, what is the rationale?

Is the TH mine better or similar to the teller? Cause I've used the teller but when I use the TH mine it never goes off so I was wondering how much dmg it does.

Teller mine does much more damage. TH mine has a much higher chance of engine damage/immobilise.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Tank Hunters were actually substantially buffed at close range but heavily nerfed at long range. They are better for supporting your AT guns now. However, the AT nade is quite crap and doesn't do the job it's supposed to - stopping circle-strafing units. THs are still useful against light vehicles or when hitting the rear of an enemy vehicle and are especially deadly up close. They can even wear down tanks at long range from the front, it just takes a lot more time.

THs aren't a shock AT unit like say, shreks. They wear enemy vehicles down through attrition, ambush and immobilisation.

The team is very happy with the PTRD stats AFAIK but the unit itself is still being discussed.

ahhh i see why my volks did shit against tank hunters and close range

Tbh tank hunters are horrible at their job
Their at weaponry are antitank rifles so they pretty much crape as 1 at rifle cant even take 1/8 of its health.  Just when I though single unupgraded tankbusters for pe or rangers are the worst at tankhuntersby 4x.  An extra AT rifle upgrade still is worst than a squad with a single bazooka.  Id rather get an AT gun which is 5X more reliable at killing vehicles.

132 wrote:
Id rather get an AT gun which is 5X more reliable at killing vehicles.

QFT

and thats the way its supposed to be.

They are not hard counter but soft. Mine the choke points, use them with ATg's you will see how they are useful.

You can easily finish of a immobilized Panther with only 1 Tank Hunter even without MAT upgrade. They are ok currently.

Don't expect to use them like RR Airborn or Rangers or vet 3 Shreck Grens. They are support AT units.

So last skirmish vs Expert CPU I did an experiment with Tank Hunters on a 4vs4 map (I don't know the name but it has an airfield/airport with a bunch of snowy terrain and plane) and like always they always make T3 Puma/Geschultzwagen/StugIV/Nebelwerfer and T2 Pak 38 spam.  I made the men against tank upgrade and made about 6 Tank Hunters, but only since its a skirmish.  They seemed to do very well agains half tracks, Pumas, and can even take on a StugIV head on!  Also they can kill Nebelwerfers and Pak 38s and the vehicle itself pretty good.  I even destroyed a King Tiger with the 6 Tank Hunters, mainly by throwing grenades and having another squad to bait so the Tank Hunters can flank.  I'm still not sure how they perform in a REAL game.  Probably I would take the AT gun anyday.

They are good IMO , especially against PE armor, cuz they give you always 360degrees attacking range. But I strongly recommend to use them combined with at least 1 AT gun.