Useless school subjects.

1. Religion
2.English
name some more if you want

Here are my reasons for Religion. All it does is constantly repeat itself and gives usless information that has no affect in our life whatsoever(And cause im an anthiest)  :D

English, its not really english its more like a WTF subject, such as "wat does the author mean to say when in the book it says its raining?" WTF IT MEANS ITS FUCKING RAINING >:(

Actually, English is a very important subject - perhaps one of the most. It isn't just about interpreting what Shakespeare or whatever other author meant when they wrote something but also about expressing ideas and opinions in a coherent and clear manner. Too many people these days talkz lik dey got droopd on dere hed as a kid.

Religion should be covered in Psychology or History, not a subject of its own where people force ideas on you. Rather, it should be about the social or historical significance of religious groups, practices and beliefs.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Actually, English is a very important subject - perhaps one of the most. It isn't just about interpreting what Shakespeare or whatever other author meant when they wrote something but also about expressing ideas and opinions in a coherent and clear manner. Too many people these days talkz lik dey got droopd on dere hed as a kid.

Religion should be covered in Psychology or History, not a subject of its own where people force ideas on you. Rather, it should be about the social or historical significance of religious groups, practices and beliefs.

Strongly agree on there, but for english all we do now is interepret these things instead of actual engilsh. some things i cant spell anymore, but otherwise english does teach a good things, i really meant to say the subject i think is useless is interpreting the author. i really do like that cause im not really poet like.

I can't remember doing much in Religious education, we didn't learn much about religion though. I disagree that it's useless, ignorance is one of the worst things on the planet, a poor education in this field can quickly lead to prejudice. However, If I was in charge of the curriculum, I would replace RE with Sociology... which is basically what the class was anyway to a lesser extent.

I personally didn't find any class at school useless. That said, I can't remember a single thing I was taught in Chemistry.

Last edited January 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM by BurroDiablo

BurroDiablo wrote:
I can't remember doing much in Religious education, we didn't learn much about religion though. I disagree that it's useless, ignorance is one of the worst things on the planet, a poor education in this field can quickly lead to prejudice. However, If I was in charge of the curriculum, I would replace RE with Sociology... which is basically what the class was anyway to a lesser extent.

totally +1

Atheism the largest growing religion in the world  ;D

i agree that if you have a whole class for religion, its a bit absurd. i learned about all the major religions in what we call social studies, but that also included history and other stuff. ass for english, i think that its pretty useful, but mostly to reporters, newspaper editors, novelists, and such.

stealthattack1 wrote:
i agree that if you have a whole class for religion, its a bit absurd. i learned about all the major religions in what we call social studies, but that also included history and other stuff. ass for english, i think that its pretty useful, but mostly to reporters, newspaper editors, novelists, and such.

Or to those whose mother tongue is another language ;)
Holding presentations about London at the moment.

All off the hardcore Math stuff! X- Y / 38 = ?? and all that Pointdexter stuff! Just learn out the basic stuff ffs! XD My dad said he have NEVER in his entire life have use of that kind of stuff. And then it should be mention he is in the submarine corps!

There's no useless subject - basically everything is connected to our life ( excluding hardcore math - I'm waiting patiently for the day to come when I'll need to use those delta formula), however I'd replace religion with morality lessons or sth like that. If you want learn about religion go to church or read Bible or other holy stuff.

I agree with the others as there really is not a useless subject in school.

That said, I can not think of an area to apply Calculus BC other than engineering. Damn anti-derivatives and formulas.

quantum physics? 

Snugz wrote:
Atheism the largest growing religion in the world  ;D

Its not a religion, its just atheism. It is fast because people are realizing how bad religion really is if you watch the news, theres always some war going on in the middle east about religion, well not knwo but there usually was. And it stops human progress

I know a useless subject and I'm sure it's totally useless, "The principles of Marxism and Leninism"

Mattdamon07 wrote:

Snugz wrote:
Atheism the largest growing religion in the world  ;D

Its not a religion, its just atheism. It is fast because people are realizing how bad religion really is if you watch the news, theres always some war going on in the middle east about religion, well not knwo but there usually was. And it stops human progress

Atheism is the belief that religion does not exist and we are created by evolution.

Because it is based around central beliefs it can be considered a religion.

Not caring is what I am. I don't care if a god of sorts put me here or if I evolved from monkeys. The point is I'm here now and I am going to try my best to work hard into the world and try the "Rags to Prosperity" as my family before me.

(By the way, I was raised Roman Catholic. Catholic school all that. Church 3 times a week. Ugh.)

QuoteAnd it stops human progress

i would disagree. i think that, for the most part, (excepting satanic worship and stuff) most religions try to move people tword morals and stuff. of course, when its misinturpeted is where wars like the crusades and stuff happen. even atheists should see that religoin has done more good than bad.

as the famous philosopher voltaire put it, If God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him.

Religion isn't necesaairly bad (even though some ppl will argue it is used to shroud and decieve the poor and ignorant). Having a class on one peticular religion and going in depth may be a bit too much (IDK why all you guys seem to have this, I never took a religion class) but having a class that teaches about multiple religions can be of use. It can never hurt to broden you spectrums and learn about new things. For there are many bad assumptions about people due to their religion and its very detrimental to society.

School doesn't make english too interesting due to the regents. They need to prep and get students ready for this dumb test. Standardized test in general hurt schools b/c students and teachers must waste time trying to drone into children's head how to answer multiple choice questions or how to read through a passage fast and find mistakes. Instead this time could be used to explore novels, their meanings and purpose, and why their work was so notable. And classes could take time to decifer the book b/c every author writes the book for a reason, not jst to torment children ::)

BTW when I asked my teacher why do peple learn and study advanced math he replied "for the love and pursuit of arithmatics" :P. Another teacher replied "The only thng you can do with math is teach math" XD

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(By the way, I was raised Roman Catholic. Catholic school all that. Church 3 times a week. Ugh.)
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Religion is fundamentally flawed in that it requires complete faith and devotion to something not proven (or with any real evidence) to exist. Whole groups of people are manipulated into thinking or acting a certain way by certain individuals who know "God's will". Much of religion can be interpreted in certain ways by individuals, who use it to commit acts of evil - 9/11 etc. Throughout history, religion has been used to suppress science, free thought and democracy.

It teaches nothing about morals. Is it moral to disallow abortions and birth control for individuals or countries that CANNOT support their children and they will suffer through the rest of their lives? Is it moral to call love between 2 men or women a sin and abomination? Is it moral for men to be killed for shaving their beard? (It's in there! :P)

Most people I know are atheist and know right from wrong. Religion teaching morals is not true at all. Religion is usually used as justification for extremely immoral acts.

Mattdamon and I are from Australia, where religion is a compulsory subject in primary schools and private schools, if anyone's wondering.

Well religion used to be a guidelines on how to live and conduct ones self (ten commandments for example). It when people start to develop ulterior motives and begin to abuse people's willingness to believe does evil occur and suddenly, one persons actions cause a ideology to become tarnished. Individual acts like 9/111 (although no that individual as I make it seem) has suddenly turned the US against the Islamic faith (if you ever listen to any person talk about Muslims here, its all uninformed hate and disdain ::)). We must realize that these single people are the ones using religion for their own purposes and must see past them if we want peace (or more peace than currently)

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Mattdamon and I are from Australia, where religion is a compulsory subject in primary schools and private schools, if anyone's wondering.

What do you learn in that subject? I'm curious ;D
And which language have the same grammar with English?

It is the religious "justification" that these people have that allows them to attract followers and perform these acts though. Religion is an enabler for these people to believe what they do is right. The morals argument doesn't stand up at all. Both the Quoran and Bible are angry books and it's certainly not limited to these two. Just the other day there was a human sacrifice in India to pray for a fertile year or something.

Most people act moral just because that's how they are. Religion didn't grant them that. If everyone were to stop indoctrinating their kids with religion and just taught ethics and morals anyway, their generation would be just as, if not more, moral than previous ones.

Religion is oftentimes used as an excuse to knowingly do something bad because "Jesus forgives". Committing adultery and then confessing doesn't make it any less wrong.

Dann88: I imagine it's pretty much like a Sunday school thing in other countries, where you just read Bible passages and talk about how Jesus died so people can sin without an apocalypse. I remember using the class just to practice drawing.

Last edited January 10, 2012 at 4:25 AM by GodlikeDennis

Sucks for you Aussies. In America its never a compulsory subject unless you go to a religious private school (a Yeshiva or a Catholic school). Even then many people don't really believe in it.

I, myself a Jew find it extremely hard to believe in a Gods existence after what he has done to my people, if he had ever existed.  We weren't the chosen race as in we were a greater group of people with superior morals, IMO we were chosen as the Roaches of the Earth, forced to scurry from one hell to another with only small lulls to break the maddening tones of death. Whenever I ask a religious Christian or Muslim why it happened, they say its because God has forsaken us. If so then why the hell are they so damn special. I would much rather be a Pagan (whom I find quite fascinating) than be a member of any Abrahamic religion. Better a man who stays to his beliefs and morals than be a hypocritical pig so seeks to break the rules he set out for himself (though shalt not sleep with thine neighbors wife, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not blah blah blah) its all trash. We all do it in some form or another.

Wow, super rant there XD. BTW I'm still a proud Jew, but to me its more of a race than a religion.

Most useless Subject in the world? Hrmm Hard one, stuck between Theology and 12th Century English Poetry

I abhor poetry  >:(

And I think some people join religion for the wrong reasons.But people also join religion b/c they have no where else to turn, no greater calling or greater oppurtunity. It at least gives people a beacon of hope. Without this light the masses would be stuck in darkness. I personally dont agree with some religious practices or beliefs but for some it teaches disiplne and good behavior and for others its and emotionally and spritual outlet that guides them

i very much hate when i say that christianity is utterly useless, and then someone says, but they made christian virtues such as the shall not kill. CHRISTIANS DIDNT FUCKEN INVENT THOSE LAWS.ITS NOT CHRISTIAN VIRTUES ITS HUMAN VIRTUES!!!!@@@

This thread's gonna get locked...

yep good idea

GodlikeDennis wrote:
This thread's gonna get locked...

Well as long as we stay appropriate it shouldn't have to get locked :P

Which means no hating on any one religion. And if you must say something about it, present it as constructive critisism.

But back on topic my school made me learn 3 subjects: Art, Health, and Music. All of which were a complete waste of time. The ciriculum that that these teachers must ahere to is absolutely boring and is presented in a way that is very uninformative. They taught me nothing new and quite frankly I could have devoted my time to better things :P

Change it's to useful subjects then :P When I was in highschool, me and most the guys in my class played Counter Strike together in computer class, funny like hell ;D. Things don't change much when I'm in college but less fun because we play Dota then, which only support 10 players :P

hahahaha and i got 30% in my religion exam :D. anyway, wouldnt computer class be media?

For me its gonna be art class...
Though maybe it just that in Indonesia we are thought every single type of lesson (Math, Bio, Physics, Chemist, Sociology, Economy, Religion, English, Bahasa, Local Language, etc...) that make Art class become very useless in my opinion...

Plus, the art class is basically every possible type of art and each year my teacher changes so sometimes it will be classic, other will be retro, and other force student in to countless drawing...
Now I don't even remember what have I learned from that class except the female teacher is hot...

Other than that, I believe the Biology is the worthless class...
Not that Biology itself is worthless, but my teacher teach in to detail that shouldn't have been (Teaching that there is rhesus plus and negative is good but teaching the history, application, and numerous detail while the subject has 3/4 of its material unexplained yet isn't good idea)...

you have to be artistic to like art, its really only in some people others it really isnt, im not sure about architecture though, you need maths and art for that or you could really just use your imagination

Dann88 wrote:
Change it's to useful subjects then :P When I was in highschool, me and most the guys in my class played Counter Strike together in computer class, funny like hell ;D. Things don't change much when I'm in college but less fun because we play Dota then, which only support 10 players :P

Can I ask how you played counter strike on school comps? We are playing Halo right now but we want Counter strike ;D

All the computers in pratice room are connected on LAN together and my teacher was so kind that he installed counter strike on every comps so we just wait for his host and then have fun ;D (he's suck btw :P)if not we just create our own game and enjoy after the lesson ;D
If your school comps are already on LAN, just installed it and play if not then use some virtual LAN if you had the internet access. CS 1.6 and Source are the best for competitive matches, I think.

Where do you download it from? Just curious :P

From any sites, I think they're free since it didn't demand any CD key at all. I remebered download it completely free from Garena :P

I personally don't care about any subject cause as our school is specialisted on programming every pupil has the WIFI password and our classroom has computers in the desks. We could easily download anything we want but we don't do it cause our teachers trust us. I mean at the end it's a school for volunteers.

Walki wrote:
I personally don't care about any subject cause as our school is specialisted on programming every pupil has the WIFI password and our classroom has computers in the desks. We could easily download anything we want but we don't do it cause our teachers trust us. I mean at the end it's a school for volunteers.

Somehow it reminds me of my High School teacher...
Except instead of us misuse it the connection for download, out teacher misuse it by redirect the connection to his house...

Well, he didn't well paid by my school, so...

GodlikeDennis wrote:
It is the religious "justification" that these people have that allows them to attract followers and perform these acts though. Religion is an enabler for these people to believe what they do is right. The morals argument doesn't stand up at all. Both the Quoran and Bible are angry books and it's certainly not limited to these two. Just the other day there was a human sacrifice in India to pray for a fertile year or something.

Most people act moral just because that's how they are. Religion didn't grant them that. If everyone were to stop indoctrinating their kids with religion and just taught ethics and morals anyway, their generation would be just as, if not more, moral than previous ones.

Religion is oftentimes used as an excuse to knowingly do something bad because "Jesus forgives". Committing adultery and then confessing doesn't make it any less wrong.

Dann88: I imagine it's pretty much like a Sunday school thing in other countries, where you just read Bible passages and talk about how Jesus died so people can sin without an apocalypse. I remember using the class just to practice drawing.

Just to let you know human sacrifice is illegal here. The Idiots who did so are going to be behind bars for the rest of their life.

Obviously it's illegal but the nutjobs think their religious motivations were actually moral and important. Same with Aztecs and other central American cultures.

Most human sacrifices in India were over by the 10th century. Only a few fringe cults do that sort of BS

it was proberly an excuse for population control.

We will be the world's most populous nation within a few years. To control population in India you have to go crazy with a MG42 shooting nonstop for 3 hours straight to put a momentary dent.

just to be sure, what country do you live in tankbuster?

He's from India, just look at his profile ;)

Just b/c a few ppl use religion as a means and justification doesnt make the whole spiritual system bad. If there wast religion ppl would just use other excuses and suddenly that becomes bad as well. We need to take a greater look at the people who commit these cimes and into their motives and mentality.

And I think TB is the only Indian on EF (no offense, that makes you special)

well, im the only californian in EF, and you and neosdark are the only new yorkers in EF, (i think) does that make us special? :D

We all belong in the US (you are thinking too nation wide) He is the only person from that country. There is a crap load of ppl from the US here on EF :P

BTW Crainialwizard is from NY

Last edited January 12, 2012 at 12:08 AM by Fishhunterx

oh well. doesnt hurt to ask.

Religion is very important idc what religion it is. I know haters are always like hey god doesnt exist cuz you can prove he's there. I think the Idea of there being a god is what keeps humanity in check for the most part. If you think you will be judged and punished for bad deeds in the afterlife you are goin to do far less bad deeds than if you didnt blieve. If you want a world even more corrrupt with destruction, violence, deception, hate, etc. then by all means lets abolish religion.

And the Bible is more of a guide on how one should live his life. Most ppl who read the Bible will come to realize that (with the whole god part aside) this seeming pedestrian book has alot of wise teachings that no upstanding community should be without, you know except the genesis part which is more about creation than morals or values.