The best unit?

So which one is it?
If you think the abiletys it have. The health, the power, are they good singel handed or in groups, can they cap?
Which is the best all in one unit? :o

Discuss! <3

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Could you be more specific? Faction Wise? Because every faction has it's strong points.

Ofc Wizard! All factions! Well you could ofc say the best one from every faction if you want :> I mean in the whole game. If you had to decide one singel unit to use in a game. And only that one!
Which one? :D

Sherman Croc, most likely

american vet 3 sniper  ;)

Ostheer Marksman

MaxiKing6 wrote:

BurroDiablo wrote:
Ostheer Marksman

MaxiKing6 wrote:

darn you. +1 for the troll faces! i can doo that too!

My forever-reliable Grenadiers.  I'd still be a CoH noob without them.

These fuckers can do anything, and don't take shit from any unit, be it infantry or tanks.  Even strafe bounces off after vet 3.

Last edited December 13, 2011 at 10:16 PM by Yauz

Päntha Pänza ftw!

MaxiKing6 wrote:
Sherman Croc, most likely

LMFAO. Sherman Croc  ftw ;D ;D

I go with tiger ace for overall performance :P. But for fun and entertainment, I'd go with goliaths ;D. Those are some nasty buggers :P. Once this guys used like 7 goliaths on me (it was a very long game XD)

Vet3 Rangers/Riflemen/Airborne

Vet 2/3 Stormtroopers. These guys are just so badass, and don't take no for an answer. With enormous amounts of health they can tackle the brittle allied armor or use the MP44s to decimate charging blobs. They clear british trenches easily with their bundled grenade.

This is a really hard topic to pick a unit because each unit has it's own strengths and weaknesses.

Vet 3 Stormtroopers are like ridiculous. I had like 4 tommy groups focus fire on one. It took forever to get it down to 2 wounded men. They they retreated :P. En masses and upgraded they are practically unstoppable (except vs snipers ;))

Lieutenant

MaxiKing6 wrote:

How about Captain ;D?

Fishhunterx wrote:
How about Captain ;D?

Captain
Officer

MaxiKing6 wrote:

MaxiKing6 wrote:

I guess I set something in motion here.. :P

Seriously, I have to agree with Cranial and Yauz. Either Grenadiers or Stormtroopers at Vet2/3 are my choice for the best unit ingame.

MaxiKing6 wrote:

MaxiKing6 wrote:

I guess I set something in motion here.. :P

Seriously, I have to agree with Cranial and Yauz. Either Grenadiers or Stormtroopers at Vet2/3 are my choice for the best unit ingame.

Hear Hear

MaxiKing6 wrote:

Grenadiers and Stormtroopers with 3 vet, no one can kill them >:D.

Except snipers

Maybe this should be a new smiley ;D:

MaxiKing6 wrote:

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Storms / Airborne / Rangers cost more manpower initially AND reenforce-wise than Grenadiers.  They also have higher upkeep.

Grenadiers feed the medic bunker the best.  If you lose a 45 reenforce Ranger, all you're going to get back is a 27 reenforce vet 0 rifleman.  Vet 3 riflemen can also feed the med bunkers, provided you don't lose whole squads, but by the time you get 6 bodies, the game's probably over.  With Grenadiers, you're getting 100% and more for every wounded Gren that gets sent to the bunker.  The most you will get from a USA medic bunker is a vet 0 BAR rifleman squad, while the most you can get from a Wehrmacht bunker is a vet 3 Grenadier squad, which is stronger.

Combat stats-wise, vet 3 BAR Riflemen/ Thompson Rangers are stronger than Grenadiers, but they all need weapons upgrades to even compete with vetted Grens, and Riflemen / Ranger vet is not guaranteed on every unit by a long shot, while Grenadier vet is universal.  And if you are also able to give your Grens a few LMG34s of their own, shit just got real.

Really, the only infantry blob a Grenadier blob needs to fear is the 3 LT Brit blob.  But Brits R Hax, so they don't count.  :P

Last edited December 15, 2011 at 12:20 AM by Yauz

What about arty? That gets rid of grenadiers fast  :P

lol no.  I think I've feared in-game arty 5-6 times at most the whole time I've played CoH.  Maybe its more deadly on retarded noob maps like Leningrad, but I woudn't know...  I've been Grenspamming for almost the whole time I've been playing CoH (I was a noob Storms spammer before), and believe me, after becoming adept with those fuckers, as an infantry commander, you will also learn to dodge artillery pretty well.  If anything strafe does the job 200x better, and even then vet 3 and a med bunker will still block out most of the damage, provided the medics don't die.  I laugh at the USA 105 and the Brit 25 pounder.  The Russian arty is a bitch, but its still never enough to scare me.  Only time the situation becomes worrisome is a kangaroo base rush with my infantry at my base, followed by the fucking LT 2-second arty.  No one can beat that abuse.

Last edited December 15, 2011 at 1:18 AM by Yauz

Can Lt call arty while still in the kangaroo? Never tried it :P

And I rarley see kangaroos anymore :P. They just aren't lovable anymore ;D

good kangaroos are a pain in the ass they slauter your tanks with there piats without them being able to fight back coz bren guns

Yauz wrote:
lol no.  I think I've feared in-game arty 5-6 times at most the whole time I've played CoH.  Maybe its more deadly on retarded noob maps like Leningrad, but I woudn't know...  I've been Grenspamming for almost the whole time I've been playing CoH (I was a noob Storms spammer before), and believe me, after becoming adept with those fuckers, as an infantry commander, you will also learn to dodge artillery pretty well.  If anything strafe does the job 200x better, and even then vet 3 and a med bunker will still block out most of the damage, provided the medics don't die.  I laugh at the USA 105 and the Brit 25 pounder.  The Russian arty is a bitch, but its still never enough to scare me.  Only time the situation becomes worrisome is a kangaroo base rush with my infantry at my base, followed by the fucking LT 2-second arty.  No one can beat that abuse.

yauz, the way you talk makes you sound like a beast. as for an arty unit being the best in the game, while it might be essential to a good and balanced game, it definitely is not versatile at all.

stealthattack1 wrote:
yauz, the way you talk makes you sound like a beast.

heheh...self propelled rocket artillery can still fuck me up a bit though, and on that note, Calliope / Katyusha are pretty good units themselves; 100x more so than non-rocket arty like the 105, 25 lber, the Hummel and the Priest.

What's wrong with the hummel?

it's basically 25 pdr on PzIV chasis with no mg to defend it. Also Yauz and other players know, that the best arty is the one that is precise ( or covers a lot of ground simoutaneously) and packs a lot of damage - like calliope. That's why calli is often game changer - one salvo and enemy blob is decimated.

What if the blob retreats?

IDK Hummel can harass pretty well mortar pits !05 mm pits structures and the like.

Yeah cause with 25pdr and 105, you are not sure where those rounds will hit  :P. and its sorta slow too

And if the blob retreats then your arty has managed to delay you, make you send time healing, and possibly cost you more mp

Two well placed barrages from any arty, especially mobile one is enough to break momentum of an advance

cephalos wrote:
The best arty is the one that is precise ( or covers a lot of ground simoutaneously) and packs a lot of damage - like calliope. That's why calli is often game changer - one salvo and enemy blob is decimated.

Basically this.  What makes Callis / Kats better than Hummels / Priests is basically the salvos they fire.

Hummels and Priests shit out droplets one at a time, and if that first piece of shit misses, a retreat will be called right away, and the second piece will land too late to do any damage to anyone.  Given the base accuracy of the Hummel / Priest, its also unlikely the first shell that you count on so dearly will actually land a juicy hit, and even if you do land one, its only 1 hit.  And if they didn't blob, 1 arty hit doesn't do squat.  This also relates to the same concept of why sector arty sucks.

Also, Hummels and Priests have a loud firing sound, and a good player will call the retreat even before the first shell lands if he is suspicious that he is vulnerable.

Callis / Kats barrages do a full diarrhea shitstorm on you.  Even if you do a timely retreat, the spread of the rockets means they're likely to gib at least a few of your retreating units with the river of shit that comes your way.  Expect to wipe yourself off in the aftermath.

Last edited December 15, 2011 at 7:24 AM by Yauz

Are the scorched earth doctrine roadblocks any good?

SE roadblocks are mostly useless and redundant, and the fact that they probably refused to give Luftwaffe Ground Squads access to Dragons Teeth because they wanted to make those SE roadblocks more valid just adds insult to injury.

I only use Roadblocks as spots of uncrushable green cover for PGs that take ages to build. They're pretty crap.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
I only use Roadblocks as spots of uncrushable green cover for PGs that take ages to build. They're pretty crap.

yeah, though if you have time... why not :P Also they work great with 2nd guy playing as wehr - set roadblcoks+ barbed wire, and watch enemy's pershing changing it's route. I often used roadblocks to create bottlenecks, force enemy units into red cover or simply spamming them here and there, annoying my opponent to the point of rage  ;D

The roadblock power also unlocks wire for PGs. You don't need said Wehr ally. :P

How long does it take to make a road block and how much HP does it have ???. I sometimes use them to force armor to my Marder or ATHT. Also I use them for cover :D

Also I heard you can delete them. Is this true how do you do it ???

I imagine the delete key

or the old fasioned way of area effect... maybe the pios can destroy it like wire?

AFAIK you can't deleate them once they are build, but you can destroy them.

My vote goes for the volksgrenadiers!
They are cheap and cheap to reinforce!

In vet3 and with mp40s this guys put up a pretty good fight against all most everything! (I am not saying they win everytime)

They have panzerfausts that is imo way better than the panzerschreck because that bitch cost 75 ammu and then they shoot one rocket and then often have to retreat with that unit because its take like 1 minute to reload ? So during that time they are getting slaughtered.

They are excellent recrewing units!
And they are the wehr units with most soldiers which means they can take casulties without losing like half of the life bar? And the voice is badass ;)

Panzerfaust makes me angry as it is pay per use



I think that grenadiers have more badass voice

i actually like the panzerfaust when my enemy makes the mistake of putting a jeep up against my volks

The lines for volks are also interesting. Especially when you spam click them ;D

Volks do sound like n00bs.

Tankbuster wrote:
Volks do sound like n00bs.

I dont think tey lik being called that ;D

Fishhunterx wrote:

Tankbuster wrote:
Volks do sound like n00bs.

I dont think tey lik being called that ;D

What will they do about it, whine? throw assault nades?