Ostheer Update 10(early) - Screenshot Gallery

Ehh.. no one said that evilSpike skin is going to be used for the Tiger.

Brown wasnt used by the african corps (not as standard carmo colour).

But from the historical point of view: 1942 - german army ordered that all tanks had to be paint in sand yellow right at the factories.
In 1944 this orders were changed but till this period u can say that sand yellow is the colour of the german tank forces and could be the base for all ef Ostheer tanks ;)

Lord wrote:
sand yellow is the colour of the german tank forces and could be the base for all ef Ostheer tanks ;)

good to know

Is that real EF camo?

I guess it depends of the season - like in winter tanks are painted white, so spring colour scheme should be green, summer - yellow, maybe light brown, autumn - dark brown, gray, red... It would be hard to spot yellow-painted tank in the middle of corn field in full sun in summer, while the yellow-painted tank would be visible from miles during the autumn, where it's bright painting scheme wouldn't fit the foliage it hides in.

I wasnt sure about the fact that its a desert-skin, this is why i just called it -with caution- "desert related". My post shouldnt be any kind of offence.
Anyways, nice for clearing it up Lord Rommel.

Regards,
-V-

Well...
The german camouflage is a kind of myth from ww1 till ww2 xD
During ww2 german army had no special orders how to camouflage a tank so tank crews had a lot of space.
The chronicle of the 503. SPzAbtl reported that sometimes they had used sand yellow Tigers during the winter because they didnt got white colour. So out of my view u can use so much different skins when u want.
In linking with this "brown Tiger":
This tank was part of the 505. sPzAbtl and fought with this camouflage against the red army. The yellow colour is from the factory but this Tiger crew decided that brow will enforce the camo effect. Thats the story for the "brown Tiger" ;)

Thats how Evilspike´s skin looks like:

Last edited October 25, 2011 at 11:13 PM by Killar

Hmm, i see the OH buildable tiger has the smoke launcher system. Oh and about the gas mask, will there be a chemical spray ?

Last edited October 26, 2011 at 1:35 AM by Mr.Q

no the screen of my tiger is the wehrmacht tiger. ostheer used another tiger.

about the gasmask idk but it wouldnt make sense
that would mean that soviets can use gas but they cant (iirc there are also no plan to add something link this)

i think the mask is only added because it looks cool :D

I think the gasmask should be given to the Sturmpioneers cuz they use flamer- could release a large amount of toxic CO gas.

Last edited October 26, 2011 at 1:55 AM by Mr.Q

Mr.Q wrote:
I think the gasmask should be given to the Sturmpioneers cuz they use flamer- could release a large amount of toxic CO gas.

Nope. No plans to change this.

I like bot Evilspikes editions and Xaliber's versions of the Tiger (the one evilspike edited)

You want me to be honest? If it's buildable tigers I'd LOVE to see Tigers that would VARY in skin and camo. There are just so many bad ass ones that picking one seems a bit obtuse.

While Evilspike's looks badass, I think there is always need for a lighter variant for those snow induced battles (COUGH MAP REDESIGNS? COUGH).

Perhaps if not varying skins, maybe after finishing the ostheer the team can work on differing skin packs for both armies? Yes, It would destroy SOME uniquity perhaps and over-diversify but I think that there are loads of good tank skins (Especially for Tigers) Like a artic skinpack would be nice.

There was someone (I forgot, He had a Chi-a cat as his avatar) in this forum show me random skin pack for the whole Wehrmacht. It would be nice ff the Ost have random skin buildable Tigers. :X

Last edited October 26, 2011 at 3:37 AM by Dann88

Yeah random skin would be cool. I like Spike's skin but I really prefer feldgrau.

Ofenrohr guys have gasmasks because earlier versions of the Panzershreck created a lot of smoke.

Maybe give the flamethrowers gasmask also?

Bring us an image of a WW2 German Flamer guy wearing one... :P

Hmm you are right the only thing I found were flamethrower guys with goggles. Why I thought they have gasmasks? Ah right only because in Men of War:AS they have :P.

When other soldiers capture the ostheer Panzerschreck will they get Gas Masks too?

Lord wrote:
Well...
The german camouflage is a kind of myth from ww1 till ww2 xD
During ww2 german army had no special orders how to camouflage a tank so tank crews had a lot of space.
The chronicle of the 503. SPzAbtl reported that sometimes they had used sand yellow Tigers during the winter because they didnt got white colour. So out of my view u can use so much different skins when u want.
In linking with this "brown Tiger":
This tank was part of the 505. sPzAbtl and fought with this camouflage against the red army. The yellow colour is from the factory but this Tiger crew decided that brow will enforce the camo effect. Thats the story for the "brown Tiger" ;)

This is what i think as well :D
You actually gotta be an expert to know what really happend with the camoflage of german tanks in these periods of time. Thanks to black and white pictures ;)
What happened after the order was changed in 44 Lord Rommel?

Since there is no regulation, tending to relic CoH like skins is probably a good idea. Their idea was to give every faction one kind of skin, this gives every faction a cartian idea & feeling.


Regards,
-V-

Venoxxis wrote:
[...]
What happened after the order was changed in 44 Lord Rommel?
[...]

Well. The yellow colour was exhausted xD Factories got the order to use different colours. Some factories like the MAN used a brown rust protection colour, other factories like Henschel used a different sand yellow (different RAL tone). So brown and a new yellow replaced the "standard sand yellow".

Tankbuster wrote:
When other soldiers capture the ostheer Panzerschreck will they get Gas Masks too?

No, they'll suffer and die from cancer at a later date... :P

BurroDiablo wrote:

Tankbuster wrote:
When other soldiers capture the ostheer Panzerschreck will they get Gas Masks too?

No, they'll suffer and die from cancer at a later date... :P

LOL ;D

I really like your work! I haven't already read all comments but on famo it has to be: Der Esel, not "Das" Esel!!!
Sorry for bad english...
Greetings from Germany!
:)

Ryxxen wrote:

BurroDiablo wrote:

Tankbuster wrote:
When other soldiers capture the ostheer Panzerschreck will they get Gas Masks too?

No, they'll suffer and die from cancer at a later date... :P

LOL ;D

Seems fair enough

Hi there,

like the vehicle skins and canons. Don´t like the Ofenrohr Troops skins.
Jacket well done but trouser and boots....what is that? Completely wrong. Officer trouser and the boots are too tall. This are no Landser boots. I like your mod very much but some of the new infantry skins for the new Ostheer are really not good.

Regards, Caen44.

Caen44 wrote:
Hi there,

like the vehicle skins and canons. Don´t like the Ofenrohr Troops skins.
Jacket well done but trouser and boots....what is that? Completely wrong. Officer trouser and the boots are too tall. This are no Landser boots. I like your mod very much but some of the new infantry skins for the new Ostheer are really not good.

Regards, Caen44.

If you can make better ones please show them to us and we will gladly oblige to put them into the mod.

Skins and model mixes need to look different enough from other factions so they are easily distinguishable. Some model mixes work, some don't and some work better than others so we have to stick with what the game will allow. Take Volks for instance...  Landers are reskinned Volks, so they can have Volk boots, but Volk model mixes hardly ever work, so unless you want the entire Ostheer to be reskinned Volks, you'll have to make do. I like the tall boots anyway, makes them look like they've had to wade through the formidable Russian mud.

Once more, Eastern Front does not tell history lessons, it is a game with historic backgrounds, and that's all.

Remember CoH has limits to we can do, and ceirtainly we are not going to invest time on a new model for the Ofenrhor Troops just to make boots and trousers look as you suggest.

Any 2D artist applies these rules while creating content for CoH, he creates:
* What CoH allows.
* What the Dev team allows.
* What the 2D artist himself wants.

You can argue that there's place for "What the player base wants", but EF usually not works in that way, specially for unreleased content. There are difference between asking for a change and just being nitpicky.

please don't make us wait even longer just to create the perfect boots. EF stands for eastern front, not for eastern fashion...

I like the landsers the way they look now.
As for the tigerskin... I trust you guys to make it look different from the we tiger.

Keep up the good work

Last edited October 27, 2011 at 11:18 AM by seurtsh

seurtsh wrote:
please don't make us wait even longer just to create the perfect boots. EF stands for eastern front, not for eastern fashion...

+1 I don't care if all the Ostheer tanks are freaking pink boxes ;D. Just release it once all its vital components are finished or when your ready to do so :D

seurtsh wrote:
please don't make us wait even longer just to create the perfect boots. EF stands for eastern front, not for eastern fashion...

You've f***** right!  :D

Fishhunterx wrote:
Just release it ... when your ready to do so :D

This

Or do you want a ugly, bugged and unplayable faction?

Well I wouldn't want it to be bugged or unplayable. But I don't really mind if they're ugly :P War was never a pretty and clean buisness ;)

Hmmm...if the uniforms really don´t have to be historically correct, why playing WW2 further on. You can dress them what you like.  ;D
Sorry but if I am playing a mod and the uniforms are not what they were looking in the past, I have only half of fun. Well I know next answer will be: than play something else.... ::)
You are showing your work and I only give my critic. Nothing more.

Regards, Caen44.

If some random troop not using the right boots on their skin bothers you, you must be in physical pain over other things in this game (IS-3, Wehr winter uniforms etc.)

GodlikeDennis wrote:
If some random troop not using the right boots on their skin bothers you, you must be in physical pain over other things in this game (IS-3, Wehr winter uniforms etc.)

i love comments like that one  ;D

Wow looks very good and professional  ;D
So is this gonna be a third faction for the Axis? (I know it sounds kinda stupid but I'm kinda new)

Its awesome you guys chose the Luchs as one of the tanks, I've recently become a fan of this tank thanks to the game World of tanks and I was gonna suggest using this tank but I see you guys already beat me to it lol.

Over all nice job.  8)

Caen44 wrote:
Hmmm...if the uniforms really don´t have to be historically correct, why playing WW2 further on. You can dress them what you like.  ;D
Sorry but if I am playing a mod and the uniforms are not what they were looking in the past, I have only half of fun. Well I know next answer will be: than play something else.... ::)
You are showing your work and I only give my critic. Nothing more.

Regards, Caen44.

Like Burro said: Sometime it is impossible to mix the infantry u need to get the "historical body" u can skin and dress up.
And when u have so much problem with this topic u can attack Relic, too ;) Watch their tanks xDDD

All in all we are trying to get as much authentic stuff as possible ingame but sometimes CoH avoid it...

Fishhunterx wrote:
I don't care if all the Ostheer tanks are freaking pink boxes ;D.

dooood i swear this happened to me once! except they were blue and said "you are screwed", though maybe not just like that. and about the boots,  i think the issue has been addressed.

stealthattack1 wrote:

Fishhunterx wrote:
I don't care if all the Ostheer tanks are freaking pink boxes ;D.

dooood i swear this happened to me once! except they were blue and said "you are screwed", though maybe not just like that. and about the boots,  i think the issue has been addressed.

Most likely a RGD box that said "Let there be panic"

Cranialwizard wrote:

stealthattack1 wrote:

Fishhunterx wrote:
I don't care if all the Ostheer tanks are freaking pink boxes ;D.

dooood i swear this happened to me once! except they were blue and said "you are screwed", though maybe not just like that. and about the boots,  i think the issue has been addressed.

Most likely a RGD box that said "Let there be panic"

Yeah they have alot of those in Blitz mod. Why do they say that. Why are they even there ???

Fishhunterx wrote:

Cranialwizard wrote:

stealthattack1 wrote:

Fishhunterx wrote:
I don't care if all the Ostheer tanks are freaking pink boxes ;D.

dooood i swear this happened to me once! except they were blue and said "you are screwed", though maybe not just like that. and about the boots,  i think the issue has been addressed.

Most likely a RGD box that said "Let there be panic"

Yeah they have alot of those in Blitz mod. Why do they say that. Why are they even there ???

It has to do with missing/bad file pathes on models and textures.

Are the Ostheer skins historically accurate? It appears so. What's the big deal on the Ofenhror and Panzerbusche Troops? And how much more of Ostheer needs to be completed? If i'm not wrong it seems like schutzen war camp units need to be animated, panzer kampf kommand and doctrine units need to be created and animated, and balancing Ostheer against the allied factions.

Just be patient!

Dev team are no wizards ;)

Killar wrote:
Just be patient!

Dev team are no wizards ;)

What about me ;)

Killar wrote:
Just be patient!

Dev team are no wizards ;)

I be patient. But they must have magic up their sleeves somehow, or at least Cranialwizard does.

Cranialwizard wrote:

Killar wrote:
Just be patient!

Dev team are no wizards ;)

What about me ;)

XD
funniest thing all day

Can you also add m24 chaffee for the USA and m3 lee tank for the British

too much rewards

andrewc123 wrote:
Can you also add m24 chaffee for the USA and m3 lee tank for the British

Explain your reasoning and what they should replace. This isn't blitzkrieg mod