Soviet 1.501 Command Squad, CP .76mm 1927 emplacement and Naval Inf.

Just a couple comments about the new patch.

Is it just me or has soviet cp gain been reduced?  It seems like it takes much longer to gain cp then before. I don't know if this was changed across the board or just for soviets.

Was the command squad damage reduced?  I find myself not building it anymore as it seems much more fragile and seems to do much less damage.  In turn it seems to gain vet much slower because of this.

The 76mm emplacement takes 4 cp to get too.  On top of that it is around 360 req and 60 fuel for what I feel is in an inferior 20mm gun.  It's rate of fire is slow, but I guess is compensated by area of effect damage.  It also seems to do min damage to armor.  By contrast the PE can call in luftwaffe eng after 3 cp and build their 20mm flak for a reduced cost in both req and fuel. The gun does great damage against inf, and solid damage against light armor.  I think this situation is also compounded by the fact that CP seem to take a lot longer to build up then before (though I could be imagining ).

I know it was felt Naval inf was OP hence the reduction in strength and unit size. My question is why are the weapon sets now exclusive of one another?  I enjoyed the jack of all trades approach before, similar to rangers when upgraded.  Anti tank, as well as anti inf, as well as grenade type weapon after research.  Just wondering why the one or the other change?

I also like to add thanks for all the hard work.  I continue to enjoy this mod and CoH because of it.  Can't wait for the Ost.

the upgrades which Navals have: DP or PTRD can be bought two times, but only one selected type: this means you can create 4xSVT 1xPTRD or 3xSVT and 2PTRDs. DP-28 in this example will be unavailable.

And CP.76mm gun is awesome stuff. It's like hi-damage mortar, really effective when you face enemy blobs. Also it's really useful during siege.

Soviet Command squad has the same damage than usual IIRC, but the commissar criticals were nerfed (only the commissar, not the bodyguards).

IMO the Command squad is fine.

Last edited August 31, 2011 at 7:00 PM by blackbishop

the OBR will be receiving a HEAT rounds ability in the future to give it some effectiveness against armor

Soviet CS actually reaches vet1 and 2 faster than before, and vet3 slightly slower.

Sigmar wrote:
I find myself not building it anymore.

Do you have brainworms?

The CS is definitely worth the 350 manpower, espeacially in the USSR early game, where there are few good unit. It also scale well.

Try this. Don't cap at all with your CS and send them to the most likely place to be combat right away. If both you and your opponent lose an equal amount of men, you are winning because you are getting closer to the super important vet 1.

the 76mm1927 sucks for the price. It needs to fire faster and even longer range or be cheaper.

And with CS vet you get all those nifty upgrades like global def or off :P

yes i agree with vonklaus the 76mm needs to be changed i justt dont understand it too much money and its a enplacment!!!!(they suck)i mean in pvps u build one then he attacks with blob witch must have aleast one shrek and then thats it 400mp 75feul something and its gone!i mean the player attacks once then next arty, motar, tank rush it what im trying to say is its only good for one attack then the player will stop and try to blow it up form a distance. its just not worth it  :'(

Thanks for all the feedback.

As far as the CS is concerned , if you can level it up it is a great addition .  I just don't see it as durable or as offensively powerful as it used to be.  It seemed to behave more like a Brit rifle squad before, now it seems to be more like an Am. rifle squad.  It has a difficult time taking out a volks squad one on one in similar cover.  Maybe I have been unlucky in my match ups but that has been my exp.

I do use it like a hunter team in the beginning of a match, searching for eng squads and the such, trying to rack up exp before the harder units hit the field.  The problem is it doesn't seem to make the kills as quick as before, and because of that , it takes more damage from engagements , and spends more time retreating back to base to replenish numbers.

Just my observations, it seems to require a lot more babysitting then before.

I think its b/c CS has less chance of making criticals ??? Maybe thats why :P