Bitzkrieg mod - is it worth it?

This is the first COH mod that i have tried and i was wondering about trying out the blitzkrieg mod.

My internet is not the best and as such i don't want to waste 5+ hours waiting for a download.

So my question is, Is Blitzkrieg mod worth it? pros and cons and the such.

So let me guess you are also an offline player for CoH? Well we are on the same boat, ok Blitzkrieg mod is good. For some people say Blitzkrieg mod is the best among all. It got many new things like manual fire ( If not mistaken ) You should try, is not bad. Anyway if not mistaken somebody already post this topic something about this if not mistaken.... :D

You should try , its worth it.

BK is horribly unbalanced (Axis bias) and therefore I'd only recommend it if you are, as ImperialKaskins said, a compstomper. It's fun though to have such a wide selection of new units and the realistic damage system is also nice (well, if you play as Axis.. xD).
Currently, BK is not compatible with 2.602, there is a hotfix on BKs side that you can download to fix this issue. Also a new BK patch is WIP.

So it has new units and realistic damage? What else did they change?

They changed most weapon sounds (more realistic), veterancy (every faction gains it nearly the same way through combat now), squad sizes (around 6 members for an average squad), camera height (raised), doctrines (expandet) and teching system.

So they kept the standard base system, with the same maps, or?

They made new maps too... very good maps I think... I play BK mod with my brazilian friends here... and we play Normandy 1944 and Eastern Front as well  ;D ;D ;D.

unfortunately the Axis team are the best in game... I play with Panzer Elite and alwas I call my JagdTiger my team Win the map... It's unbelievable how many enemy shots that thing can support...

Is very funny but.... as MaxiKing6 spoke "is horribly unbalanced"

I don't know what it is with Company Of Heroes and all this imbalance. Even the dedicated modders can't seem to get it right... :-\

There is a good thing about the BKmod... the improved the Panzer 4 (in vanilla the Panzer 4 sucks hahahha)... now we can call him a "Tank" =D... of course, that's my opinion and of 2 of my friendas here...

...What's wrong with the standard Panzer IV? It's a good, well-rounded tank... ???

Well... in my memories the Panzer 4 could not stand agains a little Sherman and win... you see, when you put that 76mm gun on sherman say "good bye" to you Pazer 4 (my opinion of course and it pass 2 years since my last battle on vanilla... I don't know how Vanilla is right now...)

Get vet 3 (the armor skirts) and you will fair much better. ;)

Huuum.... thanks for the tip man... ;D ;D... just remind you guys go see my topic about brazilians at WW2 I put some videos there... enjoy =D

Last edited July 16, 2011 at 2:08 PM by Curitibano

Axis are OP? Don't laugh me. If i can beat them as CW or USA ( in PvsP) that's mean they are OP? And that's why i am mostly plaing PvsP as allies. But this is right, they have the best tanks and infantry, but if you have arty or airstrikes, these tanks are not problem. In other words, you just need know how to play allies to beat axis, similarly is in EF, if you know how to play as WH or PE, soviets are not then OP.

But, Company of Heroes was not designed to be realistic game, so i don't like in 100% mods with realistic damage system. I am glad that EF is not another mod with other system damage :).

@Crinkle
It depends on you whether you want this mod, i recommend this mod. You wrote that you have bad internet, so better for you is download this mod by torrent, small risk that your download will crash. But the final choice is yours.

TheDzierzanPL wrote:

But, Company of Heroes was not designed to be realistic game, so i don't like in 100% mods with realistic damage system. I am glad that EF is not another mod with other system damage :).

Indeed my friend, I agree with that...

Yeah, i don't much like the realistic damage, either. It's annoying enough losing a unit in the normal game because i'm busy micromanaging another battle, but with realistic damage, you would barely get a chance to hit Retreat! And can you imagine the Tiger blowing your Shermans away from across the map!? :o

Guys, You seem to forget that the infantry battles are more fun as well. Cover becomes more useful. You can actually win with volksgrenadiers.

thanks for the feedback , i've downloaded it and played one round, but i don't really like it.

why can a sherman kill a hetzer in the same time it takes for it the otherway around?

the stug is way OP, i just sat it there and it didn't die, even against 3 squads of rangers?!  :-\

tank destroyers now hold no advantege over normal tanks due to the increased range of all units,

And the farther zoom out has left one side of the screen where i can see the environment but am unable to see the troops?

i think i will wait for a new version to come out and hope that it is more balanced. Until then, Eastern front is what i shall be playing

My dead honest opinion, blitzkrieg is better than EF, at the moment. This is because I am a primarily axis player but I know that Ostheer is coming I think it will make this my favorite mod. I believe in this team so much that I donated because I believe they will do the best job possible. That is my stand on the matter.

pariah wrote:
I don't know what it is with Company Of Heroes and all this imbalance. Even the dedicated modders can't seem to get it right... :-\

everythings unbalanced because the remainder of the players of this dead game are all axis fanboys

You've got it backwards, there - There are so many Axis fanboys because the Axis are overpowered. ;)

And what do you mean by "dead game"? ???

modders have the power to right the wrongs, so if axis remains overpowered its because they have overwhelming support for it to remain so

touche 8)

dead because the fanbase is a tiny fraction of the glory of its once former self

Yes, but the Eastern Front devs don't have the will to change the relic factions. ;)

I can't say anything of the fanbase, though. :( I can say, though, that i will never leave this game for many years to come. ;)

BK mod is awesome. Though I can't compare it to EF. Those are two totally different mods.

Axis isn't OP. They might have bulidable Tigers, but hey! I have my 25 pdrs, 17pdrs, 155mm Long Toms, Airstrikes, M36 sluggers, Fireflies, M10 Achilles, Pershings, Mines, Rangers and hell lot of stuff to deal with the big cats. The only problem is the fact, that people use wrong units to deal with them. BK isn't unbalanced.

the british tanks are actually now useless.

apart from the firefly, which takes like 7 cp to unlock ontop of 100 fuel each one. Thus by the time you manage to build some the readily constructible stugs of the axis have already killed you off.

any team other than the axis only really has a chance on bridge maps, which kills gameplay anyway, going from what i've heard and my limited experience.

i do like the new infantry units though.

yeah you cant beat units when the designed counters are useless

What i think of BK is that has a huge learning curve, perhaps that's what make it looks like is not balanced. Of course, I'm not saying it has the ultimate balance but i think it's fine for it's goals.

Crinkle wrote:
the british tanks are actually now useless.

apart from the firefly, which takes like 7 cp to unlock ontop of 100 fuel each one. Thus by the time you manage to build some the readily constructible stugs of the axis have already killed you off.

any team other than the axis only really has a chance on bridge maps, which kills gameplay anyway, going from what i've heard and my limited experience.

i do like the new infantry units though.

fight StuG with flanking Cromwell tanks, Piat squads ( bren button and then charge! or use tank to drive behind it), 6pdr at gun or 17pdr - it won't slow your teching, and will provide Tiger-killing power.

bk is a great mod... i like realism... yes, axis is overpowered but if u know how to use cw and us its very easy to beat them... with bk pe and cw are useful now (especially pe)... and if u cant beat a stug 4 u probably dont know how to play....

Admittedly, there would be quite a learning curve with such drastic changes to the gameplay. Hell, even Eastern Front has a decent learning curve, because you have to learn a whole new army and A.I.! ;)

What if the devs make the campaign like the Eastern Front i.e more realism. One shot those Panzer 3. It could make the campaign more interesting. Just the campaign.

Well there will surely be damage modifiers in the campaign (mostly based on difficulty), but i think that's a bit much... ;)

Then atleast make the infantry firefights in the campaign realistic.

Fun before realism. ;)

cephalos wrote:
fight StuG with flanking Cromwell tanks...

I never bothered with BK but it seems (seen all BK infantry on youtube :P) allmost every infantry squad has an AT weapon. Good luck with flanking...
Do poorly supplied Volksgrenadieres (in BK) have less HP than well fead, treained and equiped US frontline soldiers or is the "realism" just an excuse for German OPness? :P

Last edited July 18, 2011 at 5:47 AM by Paciat

Well fed, trained and equipped US front line soldiers get better upgrades than poorly supplied Volksgrenadiers. They get 3 BARs for crying out loud. you do not call that OP now do you.

Tankbuster wrote:
Well fed, trained and equipped US front line soldiers get better upgrades than poorly supplied Volksgrenadiers. They get 3 BARs for crying out loud. you do not call that OP now do you.

And get suppressed by long range MG42 fire. :P How does suppresion work in BK? The whole BAR flank thing will be useless if they run just as fast but need to flank bigger arc of fire.

its a rape fest

Suppression fire is free. Also ambushing pays greater dividends.

Tankbuster wrote:
Suppression fire is free. Also ambushing pays greater dividends.

Having German I win camo allways pays off. ;D

BK mod = AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

Remember that taste is completely subjective, what you like and consider good is sure that others wouldn't like it.

If you want to check if the mod is worth your time you should download it and play it by yourself ;D.

As looks like the topic's author already found his answer I'll lock this.