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#79783

Brazilians In WW2

Hi guys, how are you... first of all I'm new in thes forum and I'm a brazilian so that's  Why my topic title is this... I'm study Military History at my University and I come here to share some military history with you...

BRAZILIANS AT WORLD WAR 2... THAT'S RIGHT... We did fight too... after some U-boots did sink some of our merchant ships in our own coast.

1942 - president Vargas declare war on Germany and Italy and them began the recrutement.

July 1944 - we send a few more tham 25.000 men (a Infantry Division) to fight at Italy, side by side with the 5th Army of General Mark Clark.

now some links and pictures =D

link in english: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Expeditionary_Force

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?2187-Brazilian-Expeditionary-Force

photos:

- Brazilians trainning with a Bazzoka: Forum post image

- A book talking about the BEF: Forum post image

- Our Pilots:Forum post image

- and a few engginers cleaning a road in Italy: Forum post image


I think that's it... I hope you guys like of this topic... Any questions just talk with me here in this topic or by e-mail...

Bye for now... see ya
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY

Last edited July 15, 2011 at 5:16 PM by Curitibano

#79785

Re: Brazilians In WW2

That's very interesting, Curitibano! Thanks for sharing :D
Do you know about the vehicles/tanks they used? Only American ones or also British?
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#79786

Re: Brazilians In WW2

No, just light american vehicles. As the Italy terrain was dificult to heavy and medium tanks, brasilians did use only greyhounds, jeeps, trucks and few M3 Stuars to make some recognition of terrain...

I'll try to find some pictures of the vehicles:

this is a model: Forum post image

Some of the Stuarts I was talking about: Forum post image

this site have some photos of brazilian troops in Italy... http://www.ww2incolor.com/brazil/ =D
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY

Last edited July 15, 2011 at 5:29 PM by Curitibano

#79787

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Curitibano wrote:
No just light american vehicles. As the Italy terrain was dificult to heavy and medium tanks, brasilians did use only greyhounds, jeeps, trucks and few M3 Stuars to make some recognition of terrain
ITaly terrain was dificult to heavy and medium tanks,so that means that had some of mediums and heavies or not ?
Pretty interesting if they did  :)
#79790

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Well... Tanks in Italy... we have the 1st American Armored Division there and the brazilians was a "Infatry Division"... so no we didn't have tanks =D just armored cars
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY
#79792

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Quotepresident Vargas

;D ;D ;D
#79793

Re: Brazilians In WW2

pariah wrote:
Quotepresident Vargas

;D ;D ;D


Funny Isn't it ???

president Getúlio D. Vargas (on left) with Franklin Roosevelt >

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THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY
#79794

Re: Brazilians In WW2

This is president (Angry Joe) Vargas:
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#79795

Re: Brazilians In WW2

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk very funny  ;D ;D ;D ;D
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY
#79806

Re: Brazilians In WW2

How was it with their equipment? I know they mostly wore American gear and such but anything pure brazilian? Like differant jackets or so? It looks like they all are having american uniforms but with brazilian insigna am I right? ;o

Always fun to learn more. Thanks ;D
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My English is kind of useless. But that because Iam swedish Wooohoooj! ;3
#79813

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Well... as we were a little poor country we didn't have any factory to built weapons and larger equipment of war. Our uniform was very similar to the "grey-olive" of the germans... In fact, when brazilians arrive in Naples, at July 1944, the population confused htye with german prisioners... later the civilians saw the green insignia write "Brasil" in white and de negros in our troops...

Our Uniform os a mix between several equipment from 20's and 30's and didn't support the italian wheater very well...

that's is why we take the american uniform, mostly the jackets and trench coats.

Later I'll try to find some pictures of the brazilian army before the war

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Well I didn't find the picture but I read that many brazilians keep the legs of the original uniform under the american legs...

More pictures:

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Hi all... I found 2 propaganda videos of USA talking about the Brazil and the WW2... one for 1942 and the other of 1943... just a sec...


Movie 1:
Brazil At War With The Nazis (1942)

Movie 2:
Brazil at war '43
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY

Last edited July 16, 2011 at 1:55 PM by Curitibano

#80649

Re: Brazilians In WW2

QuoteWell... as we were a little poor country
But not any more.  ;D
THe pictures of the troops disembarking at Naples show distinctive variations in uniforms. I particularly enjoyed the chap with a duffel on his head. No reason why these couldn't be used in a CoH mod. The NI have their berets. Betcha they didn't wear them in combat. And as you-all constantly remind me its not history or simulation, its a game!

An Italian Front Mod would be perfect for incorporating all sorts of national troops and equipment. Many different nations were represented there. Perhaps a T5_HQ could be developed to represent the multi-national units. (Did somebody say Ostheer)?
孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War
#80677

Re: Brazilians In WW2

I'd like to see a US reskin of the Brazillians, maybe also give them Portugese to speak like what they did with the Russians in EF.
"You can close your eyes and plug your ears and be afraid and ignorant of the darker parts of history, but always know that you're the one responsible for allowing those events to happen again and with even greater consequences and not know how to end the nightmare you did upon yourself."
#80692

Re: Brazilians In WW2

That was my first idea hahahha =D...

if the guys in Eastern front want some translaters I can make a "brazilian/portuguese" translation and help this very good mod grow more and conquest more brazilian fans ;D ;D ;D

About the troops in Naples... there are some differences between the men... the first picture you can see the privates, corporals and seargents (with a "bag" above the heads) and the secound you can see the officers with service uniform.

in this video about the Brazil at War you can see some original uniform of my country =D
Brazil at war '43
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY

Last edited July 20, 2011 at 5:49 PM by Curitibano

#80704

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Unless CoH have Portuguese as language, we can't accept such proposal. We are not going to release a translation on X language and then let CoH run with Y language.
Mors Indecepta

Might controls everything, and without strength you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself...
#80772

Re: Brazilians In WW2

+1 for Blackbishop

and yes, I m from Brazil
Não se apresse em perdoar. A misericórdia também corrompe.
(Nelson Rodrigues)
#80775

Re: Brazilians In WW2

ok ok ... no problem ... It was just an idea =D
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY
#80777

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Hold on, i'm confused - Why can't you have a Portuguese translation? ???
#80781

Re: Brazilians In WW2

pariah wrote:
Hold on, i'm confused - Why can't you have a Portuguese translation? ???


Because Vcoh isn't translated in Portuguese.

It's like translating EF to arabic when vcoh doesn't have a translation for arabic. That's making a lot more work for ourselves.
"Balancers are 10 a penny"
#80782

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Is it reasonable to assume that the only languages vCoH accepts are the ones represented by the flags on the web page?
孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War
#80783

Re: Brazilians In WW2

For there are no Portugese voices, either?
"You can close your eyes and plug your ears and be afraid and ignorant of the darker parts of history, but always know that you're the one responsible for allowing those events to happen again and with even greater consequences and not know how to end the nightmare you did upon yourself."
#80785

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Otto wrote:
Is it reasonable to assume that the only languages vCoH accepts are the ones represented by the flags on the web page?

Nope, we also have Chinese Traditional and Simplified, Japanese and Korean.
Mors Indecepta

Might controls everything, and without strength you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself...
#80788

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Oh, well that sucks. So any idea why there's no Portuguese translation?
#80792

Re: Brazilians In WW2

pariah wrote:
Oh, well that sucks. So any idea why there's no Portuguese translation?

Because Brazil and Portugal the developers thought wouldn't be large enough markets to bother?
"You can close your eyes and plug your ears and be afraid and ignorant of the darker parts of history, but always know that you're the one responsible for allowing those events to happen again and with even greater consequences and not know how to end the nightmare you did upon yourself."
#80794

Re: Brazilians In WW2

Perhaps, but that's not very nice. There are still many people that are natives to that language. Lex is 1 of them...
#80863

Re: Brazilians In WW2

We could make them talk English with a cheesy accent, like Germans in English Version. ;D
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#80871

Re: Brazilians In WW2

If it is a matter of versimlitude A South American hispanic voice might be used. The lyricism and cadence of Spanish and Portugese is very similar in my ears. Sem ofensa ou insulto pretendido.
孫 The
EF_v1.7.10

子 Art
Illegitimi non Carborundum -"Vinegar" Joe Stilwell

兵 of
Sun Tzu says: In warfare one compels and is not compelled by others

[b] 法 War
#80902

Re: Brazilians In WW2

hahahah WoW I create a topic about my country at WW2 and we a talking about "languages" hahahahahhahaha

funny ;D ;D
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY
#80921

Re: Brazilians In WW2

What language do you play Company Of Heroes in, Curitibano?
#81118

Re: Brazilians In WW2

English =D... but, of course, If there is a portuguese translation I will use it =D (sorry about my english... =D)
THE BRAZILIANS FOUGHT IN WW2... THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

BRAZILIAN EXPEDITIONARY FORCE
SEPTEMBER 1944, MAY 1945 - ITALY

Last edited July 22, 2011 at 5:51 PM by Curitibano