Tiger crew??

There are many great details in EF that I like. Especially in the tanks.
For example you changed the skin on the tank commander in the tiger 1 so he wear a proper tank uniform. But this!?

Today I played a 3vs3 . We were losing but made a last stande in our base with our proud panzers. My friend had a jagdpanther a couple of panthers. The enemies attack with their own tanks, artilleri and waves after waves with piat mens. My friend loses allmost all of his tanks inclusive the jagdpanther.

Suddenly my friend and I spot something funny in the chaos.
Tiger crew.

We have no idea where this guys came from. We guess the jagdpanther. But they seemed to be the same tank crew from the tiger ace campaigne. However they died rather fast in the chaoes so we didnt have the time to test them out.

So my question is. Did this mod just became the best freaking mod in the world or did we hack the game in some random way making them appear?! :D

Tell me more about this!

Great thanks! For those who dont believe me, I have a replay of it and will upload it tomorrow<3.

Upload some screenshots, mate! ;D

I had that too when my Jagdpanther was destroied a few games ago, i would upload some videos, but for the life of me i can't figure out how to. :-[

@Sommarkatze
Yeah, it's a bug XD... but will be fixed on the next update.

When the Jagdpanther is destroyed you get that two-man squad part of the Tiger Ace crew.

Use the attach feature. ;)

I know that bro, it wont let me attach videos because they aren't the right format and i can't figure out how to zip them up

Oh, sorry, can't help you with that. :(

neosdark wrote:
I know that bro, it wont let me attach videos because they aren't the right format and i can't figure out how to zip them up

Youtube + lock comments if you like :P.

A bug!? For real!? For the love of god! Lets keep it in the game!? Its awesome! :D
(Or okey. If they are the campaigne ones they should have artilleri and all that XD)

But then I must ask. How the hell does the tiger ace guys ends upp in the Jagdpanther? XD The tiger 1 or 2 I would understand.

Thanks for the respond btw! :D Video is coming later today!

Was an action asociated with Jadgpanther's death. I forgot to remove it.

Actually I think maybe you should leave it in ^^ as it really doesn't hurt anyone right?
Hee hee, imagine if that could happen, tanks have a chance for the crew to survive and fight another day. I would vote for that as a Tiger ace Buff!

Indeed! At least for the one call in tanks! Like Tiger2 and Jagdpanther! When they are destroyed you become so sad so sad. So let the crew remain there and like Paladin said fight another day! :D

(They should ofc get rid of their artilleri abiletys and all that and should be like pioneers when it comes to fighting ^^)

and ofc. The video! :D

Tiger crew lolol

Yes. Its swedish you hear in the background<3 And the video is kind of crappy XD

Monster Hunter music  :-* love it :D

While is a cool feature, it belongs to a vanilla unit that doesn't have such feature, hence we need to remove it :-\.

I think it's pretty stupid that the crew could survive, and spawn outside the vehicle to fight with small arms. But, this is coming from someone who thinks that squads surviving Halftrack destruction should take more casualties...

Iam glad that you enjoyed the video! :D And yes Cephalos. Monster hunter music, great game! <3

Its really sad that you have to remove it :C Its a bug that actually improves instead of the opposite XD Reminds me of a Airsoft pistol I have.

Its a mauser M172 pistol. You know the famous c96 pistol but with a big mag and fullauto? Well, the real one is full automatic. The airsoft one is semi. But somehow the gun broke and now shoots full automatic? So its kind of broke fixed itself? XD

Just like that! Does the tank crew do! :D

I going to change my avatar name or whata hell its called to support the bug to stay just for the lulz and attention ;P

Last edited June 16, 2011 at 6:11 PM by Sommarkatze

blackbishop wrote:
While is a cool feature, it belongs to a vanilla unit that doesn't have such feature, hence we need to remove it :-\.

Nooo! Don't do that! Though maybe it should be given to the Tiger Ace reward since that's a EF addition :D. That should satisfy the mob thats demanding a better reward.

I actually LIKE the idea because I guess in reality many people would bail the tank and try to save themselves :D plus if the crew had no really cheap combat power then it would not affect the game in terms of balance would it.

There is good historical precedent for un-horsed tankers fighting along side the mudsluggers on the Eastern front. The common gripe I've read in the memoirs was that Panzer troops weren't issued winter uniforms.

QuoteQuote from: blackbishop: While is a cool feature, it belongs to a vanilla unit that doesn't have such feature, hence we need to remove it.

1. Is it an undocumented TOV feature or is it a bug?
2. If EF is going to start fixing vanilla units; An HE/AP switch upgrade should be added to the Zis3 and the 88.

1 Its a bug of the JagdPanther and its going to be removed :(
2 A HE/AP switch would be cool but would that be a balance issue?

I really wish that feature could stay, its really cool!

No, it's an error with the jagdpanther file that EF has, it has nothing to do with vanilla.

blackbishop wrote:
No, it's an error with the jagdpanther file that EF has, it has nothing to do with vanilla.

Sorry, thats what I meant, I phrased it funny.
Still, what is the fate of this bug is it going to disappear off the face of the Earth or ...

I say keep it, as long as you can create an allied version and a go-along PE skinned version of the crew. Copy paste RGDs >>> rename >>> new quotes >>> new skins and/or guns. Yay?

+1

TheVolskinator wrote:
I say keep it, as long as you can create an allied version and a go-along PE skinned version of the crew. Copy paste RGDs >>> rename >>> new quotes >>> new skins and/or guns. Yay?

Nay. It would change the gameplay very much, even if the crew are weak and unreinforcable. It might be alright in the campaign, but not skirmish/multiplayer.

Why are you so against it? It looks cool.

Like I said. The one call in tanks could have there crews surving I think. So you get like a little memory left from your once great TigerII or something :P

(Yes I know. A no its a no. But I kind of feel in love in the bug<3)

Paladin88 wrote:
Why are you so against it? It looks cool.

Just because it "looks cool", doesn't mean it fits well in the game. ::) You know what else looks cool? The Leopard II! Should it be in Company Of Heroes? Well, i'll let you decide that for yourself... ;)

We should take the stug out. It looks ugly. ::)

Seeme wrote:
We should take the stug out. It looks ugly. ::)

Hey, Stugs are beautiful little things, you only have to get to know them better..  :'(

;D

i dunno it would be cool in the next patch that when an ace tank dies it could have one of these "tank crews" and maybe after like what 5 minutes if he survives could be given his tank back with some kind of ability? (make it like 200 or something like that munitions and or fuel)

That sounds more like a campaign mission than normal gameplay. And changes so much the gameplay that even thinking in implementing is heresy ;D.

Perhaps could work as a Operation game type :P...

Last edited June 21, 2011 at 9:09 PM by blackbishop

QuotePerhaps could work as a Operation game type :P...

Would really be cool. Operation Tiger Hunt?

Every wehr player spawns with one Tiger but only one gets the tiger ace. Every players tiger has unique abilities for example one can use Tank Assault, the other one can call in artillery. Also one should be able to call in light infantry support or recon/air strikes. The Tiger Ace should be able to have a Overkill ability: It shoots faster and deals more damage but after the ability has run out he will get slower for 10 seconds.

The allies have a fuel upgraded HQ sector so they can choose their strategy on their own. The map should be big so that the allies spawn around the axis also the axis shouldn't be able to enter the "safezone" of a allied player (maybe place mines?)

There should be a victory points counter. The allies lose points every 10 seconds (maybe 25 points) but they gain points if they manage to destroy a Tiger tank (200 points) (not tiger ace).

If tiger ace has been destroy the axis lose the game (even if there are still tigers on the field).

Maybe there should be a level up system too.

I think it wouldn't be that hard to make because there are already a lot of icons from the Tiger ace campaign. I would personally make the map if possible :P.

Sorry for this really large offtopic

That would be an incredibly asymmetrical gametype... I like it! At least it would probably be better than the shitty Operations Tales Of Valor currently has...

i have to write my opinion.
for 500mp u get a jagdpanther, that you can use ONCE (well if you have a bergstiger you can repair it if you have the time). now, it is a strong tank, it makes plenty of damage, and can take a few hits, BUT! it dont have a turning tower. so to flank it is easy. The tank is slow, and clumbsy(like all axis tanks^^). compared to the russians tanks, they are really fast, and they can be build in infinet numbers. yes the jagdpanther will will against a IS-2 but it will tanke alot of damage, and if there is two IS-2 or any other tank, that are abel to flank the jagdpanther, its pritty much done for. now, the Tiger crew. when the jagdpanther dies (or gets destoryd) 2 men walks out of the wreck. they have a few abilitys, they can call in a barage(150muniton)(the only barage PE haves! if they dont use hotchkiss, or hummels. i know they have a mortor, witch is fantastic, but its range is short) use budel-grenades (50munition), go in cammoflauge(with reduced speed, they walk really slovly bydefult so to use cammo on them makes it almost imposible for them to move at all. and then they cant use the bundel-freandes), they can sprint and uppgrade panzerchreck and MG but due to you need uppgreades from WH you cant upgrade them. but they can still pickup one weapon. Now, the russians can use free arty. and have alot of it aswell, even the us have some sort of arty(howitzers and callipolies and so on.. red smoke abiletys) WH have some, but PE have non. hotchkiss is not the greatest arty, but in despret times it works. The Hummel is amazing, but then you need to have scorched earth, witch dont give somuch else IMO, well the sector atilery is quite useful sometimes, but the bombs falls so random, they hardly do any damge at all. my point is this, is it really the end of the world to give PE some form of arty? they are like stormtroopers exept they cant kill infary that well, and there is only two of them. is it worth the time of fix, when no-one seam so think thats a problem, just plain awsome? the russans can callin a tank with soldiers on it, this is not really that diffret. when a "infatery transporing vehicle" gets destroyd,  some soilders in it survives and are ready to fight. just like the jagdpanther, two brave crewmen survives and crawls back to fight. I really think it would be easyer for you, and more fun to us, if you would add like 100mp to the cost of the jagdpanther, so it will be worth the extra 2 inf, and the arty.
please exuse my lousy spelling!

the tiger crew is a bug and will be deleted in next patch