soviet suggestions 5

hello again everybody

my ideas for this time are for the IL2 strike. (again)

however i have a viable idea which i think would work well.

replace the il2 strike on the command tree with a one at a time call in, the c3 t34.

the c3 was a system implemtented by kursk for the coordination of air power with ground forces. spotters were put in standard t34s with long range radios and used to convey information to il2 squadrons.

the c3 t34 would have two abilities: the il2m3 at strike and the il2m3 anti-personnel strike. 600 MP

the il2m3 at strike would comprise of 2 aircraft, each attacking the target area with:

6 shots from a 37mm gun (use the american at gun)
8 underwing rockets (spawn a katyusha under the il2 at maximum range, fire the opening hlaf of its salvo at 4x rate of fire and then destroy it)
and 8 PTAB 1.5 grenades (use the butterfly bomb strike animation without parachutes and increase the speed of the drop, then use anti tank grenade explosions in the area)

120 second cooldown, 350 MUNI

the IL2m3 anti personnel strike would consist of 2 aircraft attacking with:

10 shots from a 23mm gun (use the wermacht wirbelwing gun)
8 underwing rockets (see above)
2 FAB-100 bombs (p-47 bombing run)

120 seond cooldown, 300 MUNI


this idea would add a new way to use air support, give the soviets more direct support as was used historically, and give the soviets a powerful asset in the game, but balanced by high cost and long cooldown.

Last edited June 5, 2009 at 9:49 AM by vengefulnoob

im not sure and i cant speak for them but i think they are trying to limit the amount of off map calling, its a viable idea but this is just what i have gathered.

in that case make it a one-off unit build from the soviet hq enabled by the ability instead.

cool down is too short! how about 2mins? does each plane shoot all that or is it spread out over the 4? lol  ;D

ok 2 min cooldown, and each plane fires that much, the il2 carried a huge load

Personally I like it. A nice idea you've got there  :)

Would the T-34 still have its main gun? Or would it be more like the command tank for the Commonwealth?

its a normal t34 with a long range radio, so 76.2mm gun, but no chance of upgrade to 85

:o thats a lot of firepower. if the planes did that much u only need one or 2, not 4 i think. strafing run destroys infantry (although it does sometimes bug) i still think its a bit op...  :-\

hmm, im inclined to agree with you...

ok two planes it is

hehehe just imagine raping a collum of pathers and panzers with that  ;D

yeah, thats the idea

actually on a similar note, do the british hurricanes in the tiger ace and panzer elite campaigns fire rockets?

even when there's no nebelwerfers around, while the aircraft attack i can still hear rocket salvos and the area where the planes fly over catches fire...

maybe the team would consider adding this to the il 2 strike at a l8r date? just that it seems that rockets on aircraft is codeable.

my point is that the russians flew most missions with underwing rockets, so itd be nice to see them ingame

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Ok I've worked out some il2 stats, the accuracies and penetrations are all calculated at long range because I assume this is the range at which the shots which hit the target area are fired from

hp:160
mun: 280

vya cannon: 2 cannon firing 4 shots each at long range at the target area
damage max: 50
min: 50
penetration: 0.75
range long: 140
accuracy: 0.75
reload: 0.5 seconds
rating: 3 vs infantry, 3 vs light armour, 1 vs heavy armour, 1 vs structures

btrs rockets: 8 rockets in a 1 second barrage
damage max: 70
min: 50
penetration: 1.0
range: 150
reload: n/a
accuracy: 0.5
weapon rating: 3 vs infantry, 5 vs light armour, 3 vs heavy armour, 4 vs structures

Ptab 1.5/2.5: 10 dropped onto target area as il2 flies over
damage max: 24
min: 24
penetration: 0.75
damage range percentage: 0.75 direct hit, 0.5 short, 0.25 medium and long
accuracy: 0.5
reload: n/a
rating: 2 vs infantry, 2 vs structures, 3 vs light armour, 2 vs heavy armour

other details about the strike:
aircraft: 4
cost: 280 munitions
cooldown: 120 seconds

Last edited June 25, 2009 at 12:00 PM by vengefulnoob

i actually have seen that in the trun tov mission, the american aircraft fire rockets, so i think its possible