Extract Guard Icon?

April 28, 2011 at 4:33 AM

Hi comrades does anybody know how to get the pictures of soviet Guards and the shock guard armory upgrade?

I wanted to use it for an avatar

and the Command squad ;D pretty please

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#66819

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 28, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Play a game at the highest resolution, take a screenshot, and crop it. Crude, but it should work.

#66822

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 28, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Only those three? Wait for a short time, I'll send the files as .png. :)

EDIT: Here they are, I extracted them for you:

Lemberg - Baraque de Fraiture - Smolensk - Heiligenbeil - Nobel Dynamite Works - Lorient - Poltawa

Last edited April 28, 2011 at 3:21 PM by MaxiKing6

#66884

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Maxi thank you soooooooooo much :-* :-* :)

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#66888

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April 28, 2011 at 6:29 PM

You're welcome. :)

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#66890

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 28, 2011 at 6:31 PM

MaxiKing6 wrote:
You're welcome. :)

He'd better do with Commissar icon (there was that one some time ago)

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#66897

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April 28, 2011 at 6:41 PM

theres a commissar icon too?

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#66899

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April 28, 2011 at 6:48 PM

REDcommissar wrote:
theres a commissar icon too?

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Last edited April 28, 2011 at 7:35 PM by IJoe

#66902

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM

IJoe wrote:
REDcommissar wrote:
theres a commissar icon too?

I think we need to make a Shtafnie icon based on that portrait.

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#66914

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April 28, 2011 at 7:39 PM

blackbishop wrote:
IJoe wrote:
REDcommissar wrote:
theres a commissar icon too?

I think we need to make a Shtafnie icon based on that portrait.

The pictogram to the right of the head kind o' suggests that as well.

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#66921

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April 28, 2011 at 8:05 PM

IJoe wrote:
blackbishop wrote:
IJoe wrote:
REDcommissar wrote:
theres a commissar icon too?

I think we need to make a Shtafnie icon based on that portrait.

The pictogram to the right of the head kind o' suggests that as well.

I Don't know what are you talking about(or why did you quote my text) but i said that because currently conscript uses the same icon than Shtrafnie troops.

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#66927

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April 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM

blackbishop wrote:
I Don't know what are you talking about(or why did you quote my text) but i said that because currently conscript uses the same icon than Shtrafnie troops.

I didn't mean to offend you, more like in support of your proposal.
And yes, I'm quite aware of the current state of affairs :)

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#66929

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April 28, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Just thinking, what's with the rectangular icon? Aren't most of them square?

#66930

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April 28, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Shtrafnie ftw!

who u callin square :D :P

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#66947

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April 28, 2011 at 10:11 PM

The icons, mate. ;)

#66956

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April 29, 2011 at 4:51 AM

Hey RedCommissar, how about this one?

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#66957

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April 29, 2011 at 4:59 AM

I like ;D
That would be nice if they replaced current strafynie upgrade with this commisar icon

I have so many avatars now I think I will have a different every week now for a while :)

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#66958

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April 29, 2011 at 5:02 AM

REDcommissar wrote:
I like ;D
That would be nice if they replaced current strafynie upgrade with this commisar icon

+1

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#66961

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April 29, 2011 at 5:33 AM

Excellent job @IJoe! Don't know if we could use it on EF though :(...

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#66962

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 29, 2011 at 5:40 AM

blackbishop wrote:
Excellent job @IJoe! Don't know if we could use it on EF though :(...

What's the problem?

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#66963

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April 29, 2011 at 5:52 AM

This leads to another thought/idea

Just like wehrmacht has officers, and brits. and it coho there was the terror officer

what about soviet propoganda officer aka a call in reward commissar for prop doct? you could use the icon then.

I know its outta left field so to speak but it could replace the underused trench?

Or a command squad armoury upgrade that would add a commissar to the Command squad giving some sort of aura bonus

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Last edited April 29, 2011 at 5:58 AM by REDcommissar

#66964

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 29, 2011 at 6:00 AM

@RedCommissar
I would make it a bit different (as a doctrine ability in Propaganda):
"Attach Commissars" - enables upgrade for any infantry squad (from barracks). Cost of the upgrade ~50 mun (per squad). Once researched, this particular upgraded squad can be reinforced with the commissar (he becomes part of the squad). As long, as he is there, the squad cannot retreat, but is unsuppressible (so it's a sword of two blades). Now, that's really hard to do, but I think, I might figure out just how. The easier thing is just to tie some "charge" ability to the commissar.

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#66965

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April 29, 2011 at 6:04 AM

well I'm kind of against the whole no retreat thing, call me old fashioned :-\

I need my retreat button!

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#66966

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April 29, 2011 at 6:08 AM

IJoe wrote:
@RedCommissar
I would make it a bit different (as a doctrine ability in Propaganda):
"Attach Commissars" - enables upgrade for any infantry squad (from barracks). Cost of the upgrade ~50 mun (per squad). Once researched, this particular upgraded squad can be reinforced with the commissar (he becomes part of the squad). As long, as he is there, the squad cannot retreat, but is unsuppressible (so it's a sword of two blades). Now, that's really hard to do, but I think, I might figure out just how. The easier thing is just to tie some "charge" ability to the commissar.

I thought a similar idea, but also those squads could regain their retreat after getting vet (don't know if vet 1 or 2). But that idea was shot down XD.

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#66967

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April 29, 2011 at 6:13 AM

@Blackbishop
Was there any particular reason why the idea was rejected?
What were the objections?

You know, if it's all about the name ("Oh those Komissars have their hands covered in blood!" - which is absolutely untrue to those of them, who were deployed for the actual service in the army, and just untrue to 99 % of all the rest of 'em), you can change it to "Politruk" (=political leader) - these were never compromised by any atrocious or criminal doings.

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Last edited April 29, 2011 at 6:49 AM by IJoe

#66968

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April 29, 2011 at 7:55 AM

I dont think thats the case, joe. we still have commissars leading the "penal" squads aka strafynie aka NKVD :-X theres no negative stigma associated with them. they were just political/idealogical officers that took the rank of the command retinue they were attached to

I think its very fitting to have a komissar as part of the command squad retinue as they usually were. although it was probaly rejected because imagine what a nightmare that would be to balance. well i take that back not if it was an upgrade

I still think commissar should be a propoganda doc call in, that acts like brit officer. could replace trenches or bunker!

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Last edited April 29, 2011 at 8:10 AM by REDcommissar

#66970

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 29, 2011 at 8:25 AM

REDcommissar wrote:
...they were just political/idealogical officers that took the rank of the command retinue they were attached to...

True, at least for those in the army.

REDcommissar wrote:
I still think commissar should be a propoganda doc call in, that acts like brit officer. could replace trenches or bunker!

I could make such a thing, as I suggested above. In a week or so. In fact, it would take me less than a day to do it - it's all about spare time though :)

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Last edited April 29, 2011 at 8:26 AM by IJoe

#67061

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 30, 2011 at 3:48 AM

IJoe wrote:
REDcommissar wrote:
I still think commissar should be a propoganda doc call in, that acts like brit officer. could replace trenches or bunker!

I could make such a thing, as I suggested above. In a week or so. In fact, it would take me less than a day to do it - it's all about spare time though :)

I personally think its full of win. We could finally replace a useless doctrine ability that has no hopes of being made useful. But I'm not on the dev team so I have not the authority to order such an undertaking :(

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#67071

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April 30, 2011 at 9:04 AM

http://wiki.reliccommunity.com/index.php?title=Command_Squad_%28Dark_Crusade%29 so it would basicly turn into this.

#67073

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April 30, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Kashchei wrote:
http://wiki.reliccommunity.com/index.php?title=Command_Squad_%28Dark_Crusade%29 so it would basicly turn into this.

I don't see how in the world these two are in any aspect similar?!
Well, the paths of one's logic are a secret to another...
Unless, you can present some broader explanation to justify, what you've said above.

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#67075

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April 30, 2011 at 9:40 AM

artilery strike work realy similiar to strafing run from dow i dont see point why add comissar to comand squad ?

#67076

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April 30, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Simple - you don't add commissar to CS!
Read the thread again (the last couple of pages), and you'll get the idea...

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#67077

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April 30, 2011 at 9:49 AM

i know what you want add comissars as a upgrade to regular squads similiar way like in dow to improve propaganda strategy but what would they actualy do ?

#67117

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April 30, 2011 at 8:19 PM

I'd be happy with either addition. Command squad upgrade, OR propoganda call-in

I like the prop doc call-in better It could replace trenches or bunker because no ones uses them.

I dont think the commissar should have any abilitys, just passive aura bonus' that increase with gaining vet. like a brit officer. except the commissar would be like a captain and lietuenant combined giving offensive and defensive bonus'. of course however the bonus' wouldnt be as strong as the brits of course for balance reasons

the other cool idea is to make commissar an armoury upgrade for command squad that would do the same thing. except adding him to the command squad, and him doing the same thing. I like this idea too

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#67119

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 30, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Kashchei wrote:
i know what you want add comissars as a upgrade to regular squads similiar way like in dow to improve propaganda strategy but what would they actualy do ?

It written there:
1) make squads unsuppressible, but unable to retreat (while the commissar is alive), or
2) commissar will have some "charge"-like ability (with sufficient cool-down).

But really - IT'S WRITTEN THERE ALREADY!

@RedCommissar
Sorry, but I think your ideas are, in fact OP. And they, in fact, do seem a lot like DoW.

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Last edited April 30, 2011 at 8:34 PM by IJoe

#67121

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April 30, 2011 at 8:37 PM

So they hadicape they squad making him unable to retreat.Danko already have charge propaganda also have smiliar ability red banner dp-28 also remove supression.Only way to make him usefull is to give him ability to increas firepower or rate of fire of the squad.

Last edited April 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM by Kashchei

#67124

Re: Extract Guard Icon?

April 30, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Kashchei wrote:
So they hadicape they squad making him unable to retreat.Danko already have charge propaganda also have smiliar ability red banner dp-28 also remove supression.

First - it's doctrinal,
Second - it will increase the squad's size by 1 (goes only for conscripts, strelky, and guards, since shtrafnye already have a commissar), and increase it's firepower as well,
Third - Dp suppression resistance is immobilizing, this proposed is not,
Fourth - Yeah CS has "charge", but it's an area effect, and this proposed is only for the squad.

ADD-ON:
Fifth - it would cost (about) 50 munitions per upgrade (which is individual for each squad), so I doubt, it would ruin balance. And yeah, it's already written before.

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Last edited April 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM by IJoe

#67126

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April 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

i dont know why but it feels like it would be balance problem

#67129

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April 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Kashchei wrote:
i dont know why but it feels like it would be balance problem

I have no desire at all to ruin balance. I think, that a thoughtful approach is required here, as well as everywhere else.
But it would be better, if you could form your feeling into something shaped.

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#67131

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April 30, 2011 at 9:08 PM

he would use Ppsh or pistol ?

#67134

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April 30, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Kashchei wrote:
he would use Ppsh or pistol ?

For 50 munitions? - I think, it's ok to arm 1 man with ppsh...

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#67138

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April 30, 2011 at 9:32 PM

@comrade Ioe Ok so you're proposing the commissar upgade as a global upgrade that would add a commissar to every squad? I like it but I'm against the unsupressable unretreatable thing. I do like however the charge abilty idea.
Joe I absolutely loathe the lack of retreat on NKVD squads and so I dont really like taking that away from squads. to put it blunty im totally against that. its a huge disadvanatge and extremely exploitable by a good opponent

Also SU has a bunch of suppression breaking abilitys already So im not so sure we need more, Im still sticking by my idea of commissar increasing firepower in some way

50 munition 15 fuel armoury upgrade adds commissar to every barracks/mustering tent squad. increases their offensive abilitys in some way.

theres simply too many suppression breaking abilitys already in SU, penals guards, CS, doctrinal ability etc.
what they really need is a slight boost in offensive ability. this way it will synergise well with defensive vetted command squad

we should send this proposal to the dev team and see if it receives any support, otherwise we're just blowing hot wind here
or we can start a official thread in red army suggestion? Joe since you hold seniority you may have the honors if you desire to do so

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Last edited April 30, 2011 at 9:38 PM by REDcommissar

#67139

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April 30, 2011 at 9:53 PM

@RedCommissar
I'm not proposing a global upgrade, - only an individual one (like dp/ppsh, f.e.) for each particular squad, and only once the corresponding propaganda ability is unlocked,
Commissars carried out inspiration duties, thus I'm proposing, their effect/ability should reflect that fact,
Devs do read forum, so we don't really need to send them anything. Though I don't think, they'll take any part of this idea close to the heart. I mean, I've seen dozens of good ideas, and proposed few myself, but all those sank into the cold void of eternal abyss...

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#67217

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May 1, 2011 at 3:50 PM

I have just created this:
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@IJoe +1 :)

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