#65562
Axis Strafe
I am making this topic because I am excited by that the Ostheer will actually have some air support, as opposed to the BS Henschel call-in right now that misses half its shots.
I am convinced that the purpose of every new faction is to bring something new to the table for their teams; Soviets bring strong build-able tanks like the IS-2 for the Allies for example, and that is what makes up their contribution and uniqueness to the Allies. So what is one of the things Ostheer can bring to the table for the Axis team? USEFUL air power.
I read the Me262 suggestion, but I think that plane is too rare and the ability of limiting only certain Allied doctrines is not useful. (What if USA went armor instead of AB doctrine?)
My suggestion: A Messerschmitt Bf 109 strafe that does 3x normal P47 strafe damage. Now before everyone cries OP lets go through this.
For balance and to reflect Allied air dominance:
-The ability will definitely have the siren warning like the P47 and also an additional(added on to the current P47 delay) 1 second delay before the plane comes in, so it is perfectly avoidable
-Costs 200 munitions
-Has 3x the recharge time of the P47 ability
-Unlike the USA strafe, the Ostheer strafe will be the last ability on the tree, so it will come at a time when Allies have something besides infantry as their combat forces
Additional Reasoning:
-Allies have larger squads, so even if the player has bad micro and gets caught in a strafe, there is a chance that not every member of the Allied squad gets caught in the strafe box. It will be hard to 1 hit KO a moving squad
-This ability is overpriced against players that do not blob, as it should be. Although one might argue that this can potentially wipe an entire capping squad out, the current P47 can also 1 hit KO a whole volks squad. In addition, there is the siren warning of course.
-Finally, the Messerschmitt Bf 109 model is already out (Battle of Crete mod)
-Against Americans, they can build a medic tent as insurance, and their reinforce costs aren't that high
-Against British, they also have a medic tent. These guys can also dodge pretty much any type of off map stuff. They have retreat and also retreat to captain, and even if they get caught with their pants down at their HQ they can also quickly unpack the HQ truck, retreat, and repack on the point. Please don't comment about this if you don't know what I am talking about.
-Against Soviets, these guys have the largest squads, so the chance that every member gets caught in the strafe box will be very slim. Also, they have very low reinforce cost.
Usefulness:
I think there can be no question as to the usefulness of strafe. Everyone who plays CoH knows its usefulness, and I think this is something unique that the Ostheer can contribute to the Axis team.
Uniqueness:
Yes its played out by 1 faction already, but one can argue that its the same thing with mobile artillery call-ins and a lot of other doctrine abilities. Katyshas basically perform the same function as Callipopes. Both British and American get very similar off-map artillery call-ins too. I don't see why strafe must be an exception.
I am convinced that the purpose of every new faction is to bring something new to the table for their teams; Soviets bring strong build-able tanks like the IS-2 for the Allies for example, and that is what makes up their contribution and uniqueness to the Allies. So what is one of the things Ostheer can bring to the table for the Axis team? USEFUL air power.
I read the Me262 suggestion, but I think that plane is too rare and the ability of limiting only certain Allied doctrines is not useful. (What if USA went armor instead of AB doctrine?)
My suggestion: A Messerschmitt Bf 109 strafe that does 3x normal P47 strafe damage. Now before everyone cries OP lets go through this.
For balance and to reflect Allied air dominance:
-The ability will definitely have the siren warning like the P47 and also an additional(added on to the current P47 delay) 1 second delay before the plane comes in, so it is perfectly avoidable
-Costs 200 munitions
-Has 3x the recharge time of the P47 ability
-Unlike the USA strafe, the Ostheer strafe will be the last ability on the tree, so it will come at a time when Allies have something besides infantry as their combat forces
Additional Reasoning:
-Allies have larger squads, so even if the player has bad micro and gets caught in a strafe, there is a chance that not every member of the Allied squad gets caught in the strafe box. It will be hard to 1 hit KO a moving squad
-This ability is overpriced against players that do not blob, as it should be. Although one might argue that this can potentially wipe an entire capping squad out, the current P47 can also 1 hit KO a whole volks squad. In addition, there is the siren warning of course.
-Finally, the Messerschmitt Bf 109 model is already out (Battle of Crete mod)
-Against Americans, they can build a medic tent as insurance, and their reinforce costs aren't that high
-Against British, they also have a medic tent. These guys can also dodge pretty much any type of off map stuff. They have retreat and also retreat to captain, and even if they get caught with their pants down at their HQ they can also quickly unpack the HQ truck, retreat, and repack on the point. Please don't comment about this if you don't know what I am talking about.
-Against Soviets, these guys have the largest squads, so the chance that every member gets caught in the strafe box will be very slim. Also, they have very low reinforce cost.
Usefulness:
I think there can be no question as to the usefulness of strafe. Everyone who plays CoH knows its usefulness, and I think this is something unique that the Ostheer can contribute to the Axis team.
Uniqueness:
Yes its played out by 1 faction already, but one can argue that its the same thing with mobile artillery call-ins and a lot of other doctrine abilities. Katyshas basically perform the same function as Callipopes. Both British and American get very similar off-map artillery call-ins too. I don't see why strafe must be an exception.
Last edited April 21, 2011 at 7:19 AM by Chancellor
