Axis Mortar Effectiveness Against Soviet Infantry. Too Great!!!

I have noticed over the past couple days a few issues with both axis mortars (teams and halftracks) and the intensity of soviet troops in a given area.

The first issue which is annoying is that the accuracy and damage that mortars impose on soviet units is way too accurate and damaging, respectively. It is just so shocking and frustrating that volley after volley rains, and I take such high casulties due to these mortars, it's unsustainable!!! Reduce the accuracy and damage of mortars vs soviet troops....

The second issue that I have which ampifies the first, is that the soviet units they disperse themselves upon a very small area. So, having numerous squads under control simultaneously, they all move into say a single crater or a majority move against a single wall. Which can be extremely frustrating, since if a mortar round hits them, they all die!!! And given the cost of reinforcing say 10 units due to a single unfortunate hit, it's so expensive! Space out the communist idiots...

The reason why I've come here to complain is as follows: I was playing a game 2 vs 3 of which 4 are CPU, myself as the soviets. The situation was as follows: I had 3 squads, Riflemen (7), tank hunters (4) and command squad (5). With a maximum of 16 units present at the time, probably a few less due to casulties from axis infantry and such. Basically I decided to storm a small emplacement, trying to destroy 1 mortar halftrack. All let's say 16 of my troops jumped into a single crater, and bang!!! All I see is about a dozen of green numbers!!! I lost about 10 units to a single mortar round!!! The cost of resupply is huge! I couldn't be bothered to count how many units I had left, so I in immediate frustration, anger and confusion just quit the game and came here. This isn't the only time, this was only sufficent for me to finally have incentive to complain.

I hope that the EF balancers of developers or whatever fix this for a next patch.

Last edited April 12, 2011 at 1:44 AM by Pathfinder777

all mortars make infantry into ground beef. Thats just how it is, for a rule of thumb to help you, when you see a mortar firing at your troops dont ever stay stationary always be on the move.

that should help a lot, plus soviets dont get penalized as much as the other factions while on the move and strelky if they are atleast vet 1 take less damage on the move :)

patients and practice comrade you will improve

And is it not an issue that soviet infantry do not disperse when stationary, that they all run into a tiny corner, which makes them a perfect target for a mortar strike? Neither is it an issue that mortars are over powers vs soviet infantry.

No, if there are methods to avoid these problems then it's fine... Just as the fact that the wehrmacht spam paks... Just use snipers, no issues needed for resolvement.

I dont understand what your asking really, I dont struggle versus mortars as you do im guessing. if you let your opponent mass mortars, you most likely have lost already. just stay on the move when you see them pop a shell off in the fog of war and you will be fine.

My question is perfectly clear, but it also depends on what you consider to be my question. The first post is me just ranting about how unbalanced the given situation is, the only question that I have posted is in my 2nd post at start.

Last edited April 12, 2011 at 3:27 AM by Pathfinder777

Axis mortars won't be nerfed if that's what you're asking for. Maybe I'm not an expert, but i don't see a balance issue here.

blackbishop wrote:
Axis mortars won't be nerfed if that's what you're asking for. Maybe I'm not an expert, but i don't see a balance issue here.

Alright, in that case I give up any attempt to deliver anything if neither of you are unable to notice any flaws.

If your not going to nerf the axis mortar, then at least space out the retarded soviet units that tend to stay close to each other in a crater. Fix that, just like you guys fixed the charge of the conscripts which did no favours.

I hate it ever time they jump all together into a crater, wehrmacht grenadier throws a grendade and 4 of them die...

Another helpful hint is dont blob in a crater if a grenadier squad is within grenade range. instead charge them you should be anyway grenadiers beat conscripts over distance

making demands and ordering the devs to do your bidding wont get you much recognizition or respect around here fyi

First of all, mortars can't be specifically balanced against Russians since they can only change the target type which is infantry armour and this affects Wehr-US balance. Secondly, mortars are better against Russians but snipers are worse. You have a tradeoff because of the large squad sizes. Lastly, if you have difficult with units clumping, micro them to different pieces of cover and notice the mortar sound or a grenade throw.

Why not just rush the Mortar Halftrack, and shoot it at point-blank range? It works with the Brits and Yanks...