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hmmmm!

Balance Discussion

#58326

hmmmm!

having now played this game for some time in skirmish mode (me against the computer - every day!) I have a few points I think need addressing here:

  • The soviet antitank squads with PTRS-41 and PDRD rifles - while they were reasonably effective against trucks and lightly armored vehicles they couldn't even scratch the paintwork on a tank, yet in the mod I find that 3 veteran squads can take out panther tanks and do serious damage to others....this is untrue and absolutely absurd! - They should not be able to touch tanks...at all even from behind...this needs addressing asap

  • The Soviet rocket launching trucks - they are too effective against Tanks and in reality were used against defensive fortifications and buildings/ infantry positions - they also have way too much protection from tank shells as it takes 3 good hits to destroy them (similar to Tanks) and they are only trucks!

  • Soviet T70 - this was a fast ant personnel tank and is accurately represented however the gun should be more effective against troops

  • The Panzer V 'Tiger' or Panzer VI or better should have far more hitting power than they do

  • The German 88's also need more hitting power and they need defensive power increasing as they do not have as much defense as other smaller antitank guns

  • Please can the British have their dedicated sniper released into the mod?


Thanks for listening and please please consider these alterations

AE
#58338

Re: hmmmm!

    [quote author=AirborneEngineer link=topic=5273.msg58326#msg58326 date=1297759876]

    • The soviet antitank squads with PTRS-41 and PDRD rifles - while they were reasonably effective against trucks and lightly armored vehicles they couldn't even scratch the paintwork on a tank, yet in the mod I find that 3 veteran squads can take out panther tanks and do serious damage to others....this is untrue and absolutely absurd! - They should not be able to touch tanks...at all even from behind...this needs addressing asap


    This is not a realism mod they have been taken out of proportion from real world because it is the only factual (russian made) anti tank weapon they possessed

    • The Soviet rocket launching trucks - they are too effective against Tanks and in reality were used against defensive fortifications and buildings/ infantry positions - they also have way too much protection from tank shells as it takes 3 good hits to destroy them (similar to Tanks) and they are only trucks!


    Yet again not a realism mod

    • The Panzer V 'Tiger' or Panzer VI or better should have far more hitting power than they do


    No changing of vanilla units and balance (apart from necessary stuff and bugs)

    • The German 88's also need more hitting power and they need defensive power increasing as they do not have as much defense as other smaller antitank guns


    Tis called Balance

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Last edited February 15, 2011 at 9:49 AM by Raider217

#58343

Re: hmmmm!

Sometimes if you hit the panther in the right places, it might do some damage.
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#58354

Re: hmmmm!

AirborneEngineer wrote:
having now played this game for some time in skirmish mode (me against the computer - every day!) I have a few points I think need addressing here:


Balance suggestions based on AI/CPU experiences wont be taken seriously dude
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#58386

Re: hmmmm!

If you talk about realism on EF, antitank rifles should be way less effective against tanks.

Besides, you will use Tank Hunters while you get tanks, then your TH will support your tanks... or at least that's how i use them.

The only think you can one shot with tanks(almost all of them) are jeeps/bikes/kettens.

For your other requests, we aren't going to change CoH factions, you can try posting these suggestions at Company of Heroes forum, where Relic is "gathering intel" to release a new patch.
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#58388

Re: hmmmm!

Time for my favourite video....



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#58390

Re: hmmmm!

Have you tried being on the receiving end of 'realism' where all you get is some shitty  AT rifle that doesn't scratch anything and your opponent rolls over you with those Panthers? I bet you wouldn't find that very entertaining. Or you wouldn't actually build something that is an AT unit but can't actually do that job.

That whole realism argument is totally flawed for if you want true realism you must include all the aspect of realism in the game, not just the damage/penetration of guns.

And last but not least, EF is an expansion to vanilla coh and as such we're keeping the same balance and spirit
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#58498

Re: hmmmm!

there really needs to be a topic pinned in this forum saying that balance is more important than realism


also there has been a lack of actual (meaning more serious than this one) balance threads, how can things be balanced without input? about half of the balance threads right now are just mediocre
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Last edited February 16, 2011 at 11:29 PM by robotnik

#58502

Re: hmmmm!

robotnik wrote:
there really needs to be a topic pinned in this forum saying that balance is more important than realism


also there has been a lack of actual (meaning more serious than this one) balance threads, how can things be balanced without input? about half of the balance threads right now are just mediocre


Have to agree with that

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#58542

Re: hmmmm!

I think realism topics should be locked immediately personally. It is not the intent of the mod to introduce realism so there is absolutely nothing to discuss. This may be fine in a suggestions forum but the balance forum really needs stricter rules about what can be posted.

This:
AirborneEngineer wrote:
having now played this game for some time in skirmish mode (me against the computer - every day!)
...

should mean instant disqualification tbh.
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#58543

Re: hmmmm!

Fair enough.
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