[1.30] How should i counter Su-100+Katyshas+T34?

Hi everyone!
Both Werh and PE.
Any usefull tips?
A group of 2 Kat, 2 Su and 2 T34 for example.
Because if i try to flank i get this wonderfull barage, which is really hard to evade and infantry is dead or allmost dead, and all that remains of my armor just gets owned by Su and T-34s.
And Su seems to be powerfull against infantry as well.
I know this group cost lot of res, but the soviet surely can build tham if he is carefull enough not to loose kats and 34`s.

Arty solves everything. ;D

Panther battlegroup + Jagdpanther or HS-129 strafe for PE.

try hit and run tactics. also perform attacks from many directions. this will make katyushas less dangerous. And remember to time them well.
Example:
Let's say we have some tanks and schrecked infantry. Tanks attack frontally, getting bombed by katyushas, while your infantry attacks from flank or behind. target Su-100 first, as they get extra damage from Pzschreck. Katyushas are now useless, so focus on T-34 as your second target. If well timed, this attack can end without great loses.

pariah wrote:
Arty solves everything. ;D

Tnx Captain  ;D

Paciat wrote:
Panther battlegroup + Jagdpanther or HS-129 strafe for PE.

Tnx,looks like it works.

try hit and run tactics. also perform attacks from many directions. this will make katyushas less dangerous. And remember to time them well.
Example:
Let's say we have some tanks and schrecked infantry. Tanks attack frontally, getting bombed by katyushas, while your infantry attacks from flank or behind. target Su-100 first, as they get extra damage from Pzschreck. Katyushas are now useless, so focus on T-34 as your second target. If well timed, this attack can end without great loses

It doesn`t work for me. Maybe i dont have the micro, but now Sov doesn`t shoot kats at my armor, or simply tryes to escape and my infantry is too slow to chase.
But thank you allso.

I think the topick can be closed.

I'll be blunt.  Against a good player there's absolutely nothing you can do against mobile artillery until you have tanks to hunt them down.  The only thing you can do is dodge and hope you get lucky.  Shrecked storms don't work.  Any decent player will run the katyshas away from you, and with the retarded shreck accuracy, you'll never be able to finish one off, even if you get close with camo.

That's whats stupid about the Katyshas.  All mobile arty in the game like the Calipope, Hummel, Priest, and Walking Stuka come late in the game, which by then you should have tanks to counter.  Katysha comes at a time when Axis is still heavily dependent on infantry, and thus counters everything Axis have.

Paciat wrote:
Panther battlegroup + Jagdpanther or HS-129 strafe for PE.

you'll need more than that to counter 2 katyushas 2 su100s and 2 t34s
unless you PE armor is def vetted

REDcomissar wrote:

Paciat wrote:
Panther battlegroup + Jagdpanther or HS-129 strafe for PE.

you'll need more than that to counter 2 katyushas 2 su100s and 2 t34s
unless you PE armor is def vetted

Not really: a henschel will kill the slow SUs, and panthers will make short work of the rest  of 'em

T34s have decent armor so those would be your first targets. After that you can flank and circle the SU-100s, they may be powerful but like StuGs they have fixed cannons to a degree. Kats are the easiest and therefore last targets. A single shot from a panther in the rear should deliver a 1 hit kill.