Tiger 1 models

Basic model of Tiger1 is not good. (Left)
I have got a scalemodel 1:35 of Tiger 1, and model looks like right tiger on screenshot. And in Internet you can find photos with right Tiger, not left.
Rework please it. That screenshot made in company "Tiger's Heart". Both Tigers 1 (colored and grey used in that company -> i think that models attend in game)

Not true. There were 4 main Tiger 1 models made in the war.
The one on the right of the photo is the earliest type easily recognizable by the large filters at the rear near the exhausts.
The mid-version is the left where these filters where removed and and some other smaller details where changed including racks for track links on the sides of the turret
The mid-late version had a new commanders hatch identical to that of the tiger2, with additional smaller changes like the omission of teh small pistol port on the side of the turret and the removal of the 2 headlights and installation of a single one in between MG gunner and driver vison slit
The final version simply had the steel rimmed wheels identical to those of the tiger2 and a smaller muzzle break on the gun

To conclude, if you're really going to complain about historical accuracy, please dig a lot deeper and learn more about the subject as a half-informed person can be more harmful than an uninformed individual

Cheers  ;)

Last edited December 13, 2010 at 9:09 PM by Zerstörer

Eastern Front team won't change vanilla skins.

Zerstörer wrote:
To conclude, if you're really going to complain about historical accuracy, please dig a lot deeper and learn more about the subject as a half-informed person can be more harmful than an uninformed individual

Cheers  ;)

Ok, I agree with you) i have not learn a lot about that tank)
But, What about a model? do You want to change it or not? In my opinion, right model looks more interesting.

blackbishop wrote:
Eastern Front team won't change vanilla skins.

ok, don't change vanilla skins, create one of that models like Comet, or YagdTiger. User can select himself. [ftp][/ftp]

Last edited December 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM by Arcanine

I didn't used Tigers a while ago. But the tiger at the right isn't the Tiger Ace?

I don't play original COH (1th part) much time) I forgot how looks Tiger Ace, maybe you are right. That screenshot made in company "Tigers Heart" (Company of Heroes: Tales Of Valor, mission 3rd)

I mean, you can use the Tiger Ace model as replacement for the normal one. You can activate it on reward units tab.

blackbishop wrote:
Eastern Front team won't change vanilla skins.

Please get that ugly brown tiger skin out then.  It's even worse than the default relic tiger skin, and I cannot replace it with my own skins since EF skins automatically override skinpack skins.  I am forced to look at that brown piece of crap every time I play EF.  At the very least if you want to be "vanilla" use the grey tiger from Xaliber instead.

There will be noobs that complain since they don't know how to apply skinpacks, etc, but who cares about those.

Last edited December 14, 2010 at 3:13 AM by Chancellor

I actually agree with Chancellor. Get rid of the ugly brown EF Tiger and give the old one back, or put in the black Tiger ace or something.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that vanilla's Tiger skin was replaced on EF.

Last edited December 14, 2010 at 6:47 PM by blackbishop

GodlikeDennis wrote:
I actually agree with Chancellor. Get rid of the ugly brown EF Tiger and give the old one back, or put in the black Tiger ace or something.

I like this Tiger skin, but the Black Tiger Ace is the best!  :D

and in EF there's a guy looking out of the hatch of the tiger.

the jagdtiger is alsopretty ugly...kinda looks like a big brown rock no texture or something  :-\

Each to their own so I won't take any offense....tastes are very subjective so I refrain from what I think of other skinners Tigers  :-X

Why should we bring foreign skins when we have our own talented artists?

As Zerstorer said, "[...] tastes are very subjective [...]".

If you want your own skinpack skin just go to

C:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes\Eastern_Front\Data\art\models\races\axis\vehicles\tiger\tiger\model

and either remove the skin files present or replace them with the ones from your preferred artist

The current skin is very accurate and commonly used in eastern front

Last edited December 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM by Zerstörer

@Main post, the funny thing in that picture is that the Left Tiger has Vet, but the Right Tiger is the only one with Kill marks on the barrel :D

Zerstörer wrote:
The current skin is very accurate and commonly used in eastern front

I think it's all right.

To me, whatever is most accurate is fine with me.

Zerstörer wrote:
If you want your own skinpack skin just go to

C:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes\Eastern_Front\Data\art\models\races\axis\vehicles\tiger\tiger\model

and either remove the skin files present or replace them with the ones from your preferred artist

The current skin is very accurate and commonly used in eastern front

I've already tried that a long time ago.  If I change anything, even that 1 tiger art file I can't play EF on multi-player.  :(  I think it has to do with the EF files being in folder format instead of SGA format.

If the files aren't packed on SGA they'll overwrite the files of their respective path/name. If you delete them you should be able to use default ones.

Make sure you delete them. Sometimes on Vista and 7 you delete them(shift+del) and after refreshing the directory(pressing F5) they're still there.

Thx for trying to help, but as I said I've already tried to delete / replace that brown tiger skin file.  Everytime I do that my EF online compat breaks, and when I try to play a game with others it says we don't have the same data files.

I've already PMed the devs on skin issues before, but no dice.  I'm hoping someone could take the time to help out with the skin issues I'm having again.  It'd be much appreciated.

PS: Again, I think if the EF attrib and art files were packed into SGA format, skinpacks might work.

Of course taste is subjective, that's why the skin should be able to be overridden. I hope you guys help out chancellor here.

Just did this yesterday's midnight or should say some minutes ago ;). Place it on your "company of heroes\Eastern_Front\Data" folder.

I tested with one custom skin of Xalibur's Tiger. Seems to work correctly on skirmish mode(I mean didn't mess with the normal and soviets textures). Tested with GodlikeDennis, he joined to my test match with EF normal skins and online compatibility error wasn't shown up.

I couldn't test it in PvP game because he had to go. I post this if you want to try it Chancellor and I don't think I could try it soon because of my work, with soon i mean from now to 15 hrs. later~ 11:12 pm now, i'm go to work from 8:00am to 6:00pm.

Good night ;D!

Last edited December 15, 2010 at 6:13 AM by blackbishop

As far as I know, art files never cause compatibility issues, only attribute changes. Iremember trying this with Rizz and didn't have an issue

Ugly Tiger problem solved.  I deleted the Tiger art file and put the resource file in the EF Data folder.  When I attempted to join someone's online skirmish game, it worked.  Thank you, Blackbishop.

My skinpack still doesn't work when playing EF, but I guess thats OK, because I can still look at my replays with them without being bothered by the ugly brown tiger now.

However, if someone would be so kind as to take a look at my problem, I would be very appreciative.  The AttribArchive.sga that I use for my skinpack only changes things like adding a Tiger / Pershing commander or changing the PE tank crew models, etc, and does not effect actual unit battle stats.  It works 100% with regular CoH online, so I'm not sure about the problem.

post links for good skinpacks please)