When the strawmen go...

Personally i think the soviets are a fairly well balanced force, they hold their own well vs the wehr and p.e
when the 'Strawman' bug has been lifted and russians can steal mg's mortars nebelwerfers etc, will this not throw the balance out a bit?
russians will be able to use these weapons with great effectiveness and with stolen mg42's  the fact they will now be able to supress will be devastating.
so i guess im asking how this will be adressed,
will conscripts be able to steal? (at 17pts for a conscript and 340 for a nebelwerfer that is a crazy steal)
Given that conscipts are very poor troops will their lack of skill be realised in a reduced effectiveness of stolen weapons?

im just seeing the nightmare scenario of yank + russ on the field and loads of american supply drops making a really well equipped russian army. for Very cheap.
still i hope the bug does get fixed and any upcoming balance issues are adressed

also cant wait for the ostheer.
RussHaus

originalsmit wrote:
Personally i think the soviets are a fairly well balanced force, they hold their own well vs the wehr and p.e
when the 'Strawman' bug has been lifted and russians can steal mg's mortars nebelwerfers etc, will this not throw the balance out a bit?

In short this bug wont be fixed becouse Relic just dosnt care about as.

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im just seeing the nightmare scenario of yank + russ on the field and loads of american supply drops making a really well equipped russian army. for Very cheap.

Lend-Lease. :D

Yeah as Paciat said its up to Relic to fix that "Strawman" bug, and Relic obviously dosent give a **** about Company Of heroes, so it will probaly never be fixed. 

Paciat wrote:

originalsmit wrote:
Personally i think the soviets are a fairly well balanced force, they hold their own well vs the wehr and p.e
when the 'Strawman' bug has been lifted and russians can steal mg's mortars nebelwerfers etc, will this not throw the balance out a bit?

In short this bug wont be fixed becouse Relic just dosnt care about as.

I agree with you, seems that any possible change to CoH is fading away... Sometimes I go to their "new official forums" and just see that the situation is becoming worse for CoH:O : bad balance persist - they don't even try to fix it; cheaters, are rampant since CoH, now that CoH:O involves real cash the users realize that this is affecting their pockets as well... it's sad how the people go to CoH:O besides being worse than CoH in all aspects(besides I think the german tutorial is OK).

Paciat wrote:

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im just seeing the nightmare scenario of yank + russ on the field and loads of american supply drops making a really well equipped russian army. for Very cheap.

Lend-Lease. :D

lol... I think Conscripts & Shtrafnyie won't be able to recrew heavy weapons.

Shame on you Relic..........

i read this
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3397.0
which made me optimistic about this bug being ironed out
then noticed that it says 'any updates will be posted here'
and has not been changed since may :P

p.s thanks for making me aware of Coh:O, i think i shall avoid it like herpes or budweiser, what a load of arse. pay more cash to pwn more.
yeuch

We should all send a strongly worded email to the Relic CEO.

I don't know if that would help... I think they use the policy "Turn a deaf ear to foolish comments"... of course it isn't foolish for us.

I don't think I'll buy ever a game from THQ, the "support" from them ("THQ/Relic") probably is sold separately. No one from them cares of CoH community from a long time ago.

For them we don't represent anything but a bunch of people complaining for something they'll never care to find out; we just represent a group that refuses let die CoH, they probably classified CoH as decadent game, we already spent money, we are useless now for they.

And now they want to catch all the people that don't buy it or just pirate it to play their free version. I was reading on CoH:O forum about some users that purchased stuff in their "online store", like 10~20 bucks, you can buy at least a single copy of any CoH game with that!!

I'm not saying where they should spent the money but CoH:O doesn't worth it.

Why does everyone diss on Relic? Hate to break it to you but Coh is dead. Hardly anyone buys it anymore. Were all thats left of the Coh community. The diehards. I'm not saying its a bad game, but its not making money. You don't waste time and money on people like us. They moved on. Eventaully we will to.  Where is the incentive?

Its dead cause the newer generation is brain dead :P

TacticalNuke wrote:
Why does everyone diss on Relic? Hate to break it to you but Coh is dead. Hardly anyone buys it anymore. Were all thats left of the Coh community. The diehards. I'm not saying its a bad game, but its not making money. You don't waste time and money on people like us. They moved on. Eventaully we will to.  Where is the incentive?

The EF devs allready sent Relic a complete list of what they need to fix. So it not like its going to take forever, heck the EF devs even explained how to fix some of the bugs to relic. The problem is not that it would take Relic too much time to make that patch imo, the problem is Relics careless lazy attitude.
But theres nothing we can do, and sending Relic insulting coments wont do any good.

Looks like in 10 years time all games will be like WOW or COH:O, where you HAVE to pay money for playing. It's somehow clever move ( from THQ point of view) which will force people to pay all the time, so the money could flow. In this case they will have regular way to gain money. That's how big companies do in our times... we can't change that, because there is not enought people who will say STOP! to them.

TacticalNuke wrote:
Why does everyone diss on Relic? Hate to break it to you but Coh is dead. Hardly anyone buys it anymore. Were all thats left of the Coh community. The diehards. I'm not saying its a bad game, but its not making money. You don't waste time and money on people like us. They moved on. Eventaully we will to.  Where is the incentive?

I agree to this.  I think they've moved on to CoH Online (which, in my humble opinion, is the new shit feed for the new generation of shit-brain FPS players btw)

Personally I never liked the fake / fantasy / immature Star Wars bullshit in the other Relic games, so CoH will probably be the only Relic game I will ever buy.

As for where the new generation of games are going, I also think that it is becoming more pay-to-play.  No more great mind-using games like Warcraft 3 / Company of Heroes types...instead we get a new fucking genre of Dota type games where all the mindless players get to play "hero".  No more strategy is needed, just press the right skill for your hero to use at the right time...

The ironic thing is this CoH:Online bullshit started in China.  While it was probably to encourage the commies to actually pay money for the game, I highly doubt it.

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I sent a message to them, they marked it as "Spam" and My account was deleted. Now the Mr.Spam on there- the bad way.

*snicker*

Porblay because I sent it 3 times....

Well hey, they didn't replay.

Perhaps not only "newer" generation is braindead...

All this "spam" gives EF a badname in eyes of Relic guys, gj Seem

ReckLESS wrote:
Perhaps not only "newer" generation is braindead...

All this "spam" gives EF a badname in eyes of Relic guys, gj Seem

Sending an email(or more than one) will help only to ban your account, they already know what's wrong and it's up to them to fix them, no matter how many emails you sent.

IMO that doesn't give bad name to EF. Emails like that are sent by users who want a new patch for CoH, and doesn't mean that gave a badname to CoH in eyes of Relic(perhaps it is but for other reasons). They know who the Staff of EF are, so unless the staff spams then your theory can be applied.

@Akalonor
And btw I don't think all of them are braindead, there are some exceptions.

It was over 3 Mouths, its there fault...

How will it give EF a bad name, they don't even know am a EF fan.

True blackie , I should have put a 'most I have met' in front of it.
ehh , your talking to them about EF , meaning your an EF fan seeme :D

but I honestly doubt this is going to be fixed.

I didn't say EF anywhere, am not that stuiped to let them know who I am, I even used a Search engine the blocks out my IP address, so they can't IP ban me. And for my message, I said about adding a new fraction and not helping the modding community, not EFs name.

About a year ago i read a post from a gr.org staff member who claimed he had talked with a relic employee and that they would make a pacth to CoH when they had finished CoHo.
But that is so long time ago that I doubt that their is any true to the words.

In Dawn of War II they added a mod (the last stand) to the game and got a lot of free advertising on gameing sites. The same could happen to EF, but I would not put my money on it, but I think it is the only change we have to ever get a pacth.

I think that GR member then revised the 'quote' saying Relic would like to release a patch...but hinting its not up to them but THQ, meaning the chances are the same as before(none realistically...or slimmer than a strand of hair if you're a big optimist).
We know that Relic wanted to do a few more stuff and release some mod tools etc for vCOH but never got around to it.
I also know for a fact that they started planning on COH2 set in the Eastern Front(From Buggo) but didn't know what direction to take for the franchise. It would seem COH:O and ToV were/are both probing attempts...

They should do it on the Afirca Corps or even have a Parisian campaign (Go Parisians!)

Parisians or partisans seeme? If you mean the French it could be a very short campaign :P.

Partisans.

IMO Relic and THQ need to remove their heads from their asses. CoH, at least to the diehards, is very popular; maybe patching vCoH, ToV, COHO (ha, wank POS) would bring back players who left from all the unbalanced shit. COHO is lost to me, its completely biasted to Wehr's advantage, everyone wants the Amis knocked down even more (70-ish % of players are Wehr so thats no surprise -.-) and Relic just nods its head and sips coffee while thinking about it's next crappy Star Wars game...
/rageover