[1.23.2]Command Squad balance problem

I don't know if this has been discussed before or not, so please bear with me if it has.

Whilst playing as the Soviets against the Wermacht on normal, I was fighting for a strategic point with a full strength, full health comand squad  fighting against a single unit of Volksgrenadiers, fairly early in the game. As I said it was fairly early in the game so the Volksgrenadiers didn't have Mp40s and I doubt they had veterancy yet. The Volksgreandiers were out in the open and my command squad was in heavy cover, yet the the volksgrenadiers butchered my command squad.

Is this something very unusual or has it happened to anyone else? I don't think it is a problem with my patch version because my EF appears to be up to date.

Any solutions would be welcome!

Last edited September 22, 2010 at 2:13 AM by blackbishop

It is very unusual... Maybe a bad gamble of luck I would say, as the Command squad fares quite well against Volks.
So then the battle depended on health and other factors... If youre trying to figure out if the Volks had Vet that means that the command squad could of been in several confrontations and as that could be health depleted per say(in that manner less combat effective).
But its too fast to jump to conclusions WITH only one game and without a replay... So by my opinion your haste haste by jumping to conclusions has killed this thread before the Volks had the Command squad in their pocket.

Replay or it didn't happen.

It could be that the volks just got very lucky with kill criticals. It happens sometimes, and a single anecdote isn't enough to factor out random variability.

Thanks for clearing that up!

The great thing about COH is the random things that happen from time to time...its part of the mechanics of the game.

The command squad on paper is superior in 1v1 confrontation to any Tier0-1 squad of any faction and that is what you'll experience 90% of the time.

On the other hand, I've once witnessed the Captain kill off 3 PE grens with 3 shots....now taht made me laugh  :D

* Small detail :
Volksgrenadier *Blitzkrieg faction* Storm Rain of Grenades.
Takes 1 pt. On high ressoureces, he could have thrown
uber grenades on your Command Squad. You said he was
in Heavy Cover... don't grenades get huge bonus then?

Depending on what side of cover it is on :P

The wrong side? ;)
- What's this chinese mod?

@Loupblanc

No grenades of any were sort thrown, by either side. If there were, it would have explained a lot.

How about a sniper hiding somewhere off the screen shoting?

Zerstörer wrote:On the other hand, I've once witnessed the Captain kill off 3 PE grens with 3 shots....now taht made me laugh  :D

On the other (third? o_O) hand I saw twice, that Pak38 guy with Luger 1-shots Comm Squad members with crits - like 2 guys in 3 shots. Intended?

ReckLESS wrote:

Zerstörer wrote:On the other hand, I've once witnessed the Captain kill off 3 PE grens with 3 shots....now taht made me laugh  :D

On the other (third? o_O) hand I saw twice, that Pak38 guy with Luger 1-shots Comm Squad members with crits - like 2 guys in 3 shots. Intended?

lol... I remember that one user posted in the old CoH forum that Pak38 guy with Luger 1-shot his sniper in vCoH.

Normal pistols have about 20% to do criticals. You should have seen the mechanics squad until 1.04. They used to beat down an mp44 (4 man Pe grens) squad with 2 engineers left standing. I used to call them the Erp brothers  ;D-Rizz and I had a right laugh when we first tested it.

blackbishop wrote:lol... I remember that one user posted in the old CoH forum that Pak38 guy with Luger 1-shot his sniper in vCoH.

That happened to me.

Also the other day a Vet0 Pioneer Squad somehow managed to kill one of my Commandos in a fight. Normally they cannot even kill a Rifleman in a battle, but somehow they managed to take out a Commando before going down.

There was also the time where a severely damaged enemy Geschutzwagen managed to take like 8 hits without blowing up, it went too fat back into it's own territory and I had to let it get away or risk losing my Cromwell to Panzerschrecks and Paks.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Replay or it didn't happen.

Ive lost a volks squad with Mp40s to sapper squads while they were less than 2 meters away, plus they died in about 7 seconds.
like everyone says , random events happen from time to time.

And that is the most realistic  thing you'll get in COH...randomness. Like real combat situation where the craziest things can happen. One man holding off a whole platoon etc which in theory shouldn't happen  ;D

That is the most realistic thing about COH, isn't it :)

Seem starting to spam philosophy now eh ? :)
But I remember eharing stories of stuff like that Zerstorer , the one I heard was a US soldier holding off a Japanese assault on a hill while his allies retreated.

1st of all Akaloner that was pretty common...


2nd of all, This person have no Version tag. Do we still need version tags now?

Oh man... should I be a good person and add it to the title or should I be a bad one and close the thread ::).

Since this was a random occurrence and there is no balance problem, close the thread.

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Since this was a random occurrence and there is no balance problem, close the thread.

Fair enough.