EFEastern Front Forum Archive
Read-only public archive · no login or tracking

Locked topic · 21 posts

Sherman M4a2

Balance Discussion

#44659

Sherman M4a2

First want to say great mod, really enjoying it.

I was wondering about the justification behind 4 command points for the Sherman? I know before the most recent patch it was three which seemed more in line with the churchill call in for the brits.

The Sherman not only cost more cps but it also cost more manpower as well, and too be honest I think it is less useful then the churchill .  If I understand it the Sherman is supposed to be an anti armor tank?  The churchill seems more resilient and more damaging on the field overall vs both infantry and armor. Haven't done any solid testing but just my impression.

Thanks for any input on this.
#44664

Re: Sherman M4a2

Churchill = 6 Pdr (67mm) Gun..
Sherman M4A3 - 76mm Gun...

Post Merge: [time]1282496243[/time]

Also, you forgot the version tag!
#44668

Re: Sherman M4a2

its anti light vehicle tank...if you get caught with your pants down sort to speak and have no AT...however...it will be getting an...adjestment in the next patch to make it more usefull
R.I.P MrScruff - A genuine Good Guy and great artist
R.I.P Loran Korn - A very brave and talented guy
RAP NEWS http://thejuicemedia.com/?ref=nf
#44670

Re: Sherman M4a2

Churchill had 57mm gun.
#44684

Re: Sherman M4a2

The Russian call in Sherman is an excellent tank would make an excellent museum specimen , or in other words i dont know why has it been placed in the CT  at all !!!!!!!!!!!

Its highly inaccurate against light vehicles , a Bren carrier can probably kill more infantry than it and it costs a fortune ,,

U better spend your resources on a su-85
The sound of 17 pounder ap shells tearing down panzers

Is music to my ears!!
#44686

Re: Sherman M4a2

Idilyox wrote:
Churchill had 57mm gun.

Depends on the version...later models replaced teh 6pdr with the US 75mm...better HE and made logistics support easier...same with the Cromwell  ;)
R.I.P MrScruff - A genuine Good Guy and great artist
R.I.P Loran Korn - A very brave and talented guy
RAP NEWS http://thejuicemedia.com/?ref=nf
#44768

Re: Sherman M4a2

Which would be a nice upgrade to make churchills scale past their initial callin...hint, hint zerst.

I never even use the sherman, I think it's a waste of space. Terrible vehicle.
If you get into an argument with me, you're wrong.
#44802

Re: Sherman M4a2

GodlikeDennis wrote:
I never even use the sherman, I think it's a waste of space. Terrible vehicle.

Now that it costs 4CPs it could get +100 HP. Than It would have same HP (550) as a Firefly.
But a KV-1 is what I would really want to see. It could have a vet 2 85mm gun upgrade and a vet 3 hull down ability.

I would also like to see all call-ins on 1 side of the tech tree and all the abilities on the other. Just like on the Blitzkrieg and Engineer trees.
#44816

Re: Sherman M4a2

I think the Sherman should stay the same, its fine as it is.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#44828

Re: Sherman M4a2

No it's rubbish. It shouldn't even be there, breakthrough has enough tank callins. It should be heavy AT/AI infantry much like rangers. Soviets lack a heavy infantry callin and it would make sense to put them in breakthrough. The KV-1 would make more sense as a tank rider replacement. Being that it's quite a heavy tank, 5 cps in would be appropriate.
If you get into an argument with me, you're wrong.
#44831

Re: Sherman M4a2

Its kinda funny how lots of topics like this turns into a fight between me and Godlikedennis.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#44835

Re: Sherman M4a2

Hilarious.

I'm just trying to help you reach that Mr. Spam title, which suits you so well :P.
If you get into an argument with me, you're wrong.
#44841

Re: Sherman M4a2

see this situation as Sigmar. I think that should be cheaper. I like more with 3 points.

....By the way, I have graphics problems with russian m4 sherman does not display correctly. I only see a cube. Is it a problem only mine? What should I do?

thanks for everything. an excellent mod!!

"Someday there will be a mod of the war in africa, italy or Pacific?


XD
#44843

Re: Sherman M4a2

Does this cube happen to say "let there be panic"? I love those little guys :P.

As my RAM was dying I had one of these for every infantry in the game. It looked like a children's show with little cubes running everywhere.
If you get into an argument with me, you're wrong.
#44866

Re: Sherman M4a2

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Hilarious.

I'm just trying to help you reach that Mr. Spam title, which suits you so well :P.


Well you did well, hurray. Am the only person on this forum that is a Mr.Spam that isn't a dev or translator. That me seem very useless. :'(
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#44872

Re: Sherman M4a2

GodlikeDennis wrote:
Does this cube happen to say "let there be panic"? I love those little guys :P.

As my RAM was dying I had one of these for every infantry in the game. It looked like a children's show with little cubes running everywhere.


Sorry to be slightly off topic, but what in the hell causes them?!?! I've go this on one of the maps (but only that map):

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4147.0;attach=1670;image

Ok back on topic....
I'd love to see the KV-1 as a reward unit for the Sherman!  It would create an interesting choice between an agile but (relatively) light tank and a much slower but tougher tank. 
"if there's one thing we've learnt in the last thousand miles of retreat, it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y&
#44880

Re: Sherman M4a2

Hmm looks like someone is shipping you Cubes of Doom! Get them out of that junkyard, there very useful.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#44881

Re: Sherman M4a2

It's caused by the game failing to load a texture on the unit. Either a slight install error or a hardware/driver issue.
If you get into an argument with me, you're wrong.
#44883

Re: Sherman M4a2

Yea, what he said...
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

Coh Name: Seeme
#44884

Re: Sherman M4a2

Seeme wrote:
Hmm looks like someone is shipping you Cubes of Doom! Get them out of that junkyard, there very useful.


Lol i have a mental image of a Russian solider standing their and shouting "Ok, which one of you jokers ordered giant cubes instead of ammunition again?!?"

GodlikeDennis wrote:
It's caused by the game failing to load a texture on the unit. Either a slight install error or a hardware/driver issue.


Cheers GodlikeDennis, i suspect its an install issue but i can't be bothered reinstalling for the sake of one area on one map  :P
"if there's one thing we've learnt in the last thousand miles of retreat, it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEle_DLDg9Y&
#44905

Re: Sherman M4a2

YEY! another thread derailed! guess what?

Locked
R.I.P MrScruff - A genuine Good Guy and great artist
R.I.P Loran Korn - A very brave and talented guy
RAP NEWS http://thejuicemedia.com/?ref=nf