Soviet upgrades need to upgrade units that are already deployed.

Soviet upgrades need to upgrade units already deployed (not just new units). I don't see why this was implemented to begin with but it just isn't fun and serves no purpose other than to force a player to suicide his own units to get the upgraded version.

Please update the mod so that upgrades effect ALL units, new or already deployed!

It is part of the "Russian Flavor" that sets them apart from the rest of the other nations. If that is removed they turn into a slightly different America.
Also yes it does serve a purpose, it forces you to think before mindlessly fielding units. I know that every time I build my first strelky I have the decision to wait and upgrade or build it now (usually I wait the 20 seconds). The same goes for nearly all the other units the soviets you have the decision between "gimme now!" or "I can wait, get the upgrade".
Another thing to remember is a vet 3 maybe even a vet 2 base squad is better than a vet 0 upgraded squad so "suiciding" your units is well... stupid and idiotic.

Last edited August 9, 2010 at 5:04 AM by nomad52

^ What that one said.

This question is already answered on another thread , please search before posting  a new one >:(

First of all, this was not a question, and as such, it cannot be "Answered". I am simply adding my suggestion (as this is a suggestion thread).

I respectfully disagree with the idea that forcing upgrades on only new units adds "flavor" to the Russian faction.

The Russians already have their own flavor in unit types, doctrines, and conscripts.

Please change the upgrade mechanic to affect all units deployed and not simply new ones.

My friend you have to understand what the mechanic really does. If we allowed the upgrade to automaticly take affect you could have an extreme change in Soviet gameplay.

Another issue would be (in the case of the tanks this is more evident) were did you have the time to change a tank turret and armor in the middle of a battle field (please don't counter with the "but the other factions tank can get tank upgraded in the middle of the field" because those aren't changes in armor and Cannon (except the Sherman's but that is just unrealistic))

Then according to historical  records there were no T-34/76s in the Soviet army that recieved an up-gunning to 85mm nor where there SU-85 to SU-100 upgunnings instead only new ones were made. As for the infantry thing...... well male soldiers can't grow guns or flags out of their asses, nor other human beings (NKVD Commisar, Honor Guards with PPSh-41s, etc)

This is an integral feature of the Soviets and it will most likely not be changed. Just because one person disagrees with this feature doesn't mean the devs will change it.

zephyx wrote:
First of all, this was not a question, and as such, it cannot be "Answered". I am simply adding my suggestion (as this is a suggestion thread).

I respectfully disagree with the idea that forcing upgrades on only new units adds "flavor" to the Russian faction.

The Russians already have their own flavor in unit types, doctrines, and conscripts.

Please change the upgrade mechanic to affect all units deployed and not simply new ones.

My turn to be an asshat, asshat. I wasn't "answering you", I was telling you that your "suggestion" was well dumb and why it is dumb (others think so to). Also your "suggestion" wasn't phrased as a suggestion but instead you phrased it as a demand. So in conclusion I (and others) respectfully disagree with you on everything that you have said. :P

Also saying "unit types" and then saying conscripts is redundant as conscripts are a unit type.


Note to mods: Sorry if this is a bit flamey this guy is just getting on my nerves for some reason.

Last edited August 11, 2010 at 11:59 PM by nomad52

There are two reasons for this

1. As people have already stated , its not feasible

2. It will tip the balance of the game

AbhMkh wrote:
This question is already answered on another thread , please search before posting  a new one >:(

^ This, if you intend to start a new topic for whatever reason, please search to see if there is an existing discussion you can join.

stolen a tiger tank with a Russian coat of arms ;D ;D

This is a very small thing to complain about, since the soviet units are mostly cheap and expendable, even with the upgrades