[EF] Moscow (2)

I was about to write you an invitation to bring that map ;) I think it would fit as Moscow or something.

sounds cool it was cinda like that i imagined but with all the trenching ww1 style to it. though what i would have done to solve a no mans land in betwen the trenchlines would be to have a big sector on each side that stops halfway through thw no mans land so it goes fifty  fifty to each side.

Er. Won't people like arty and mortar spam this map possible?

My clan has played this map a fair bit, and suprisingly it dosent really suit arty camp styles, especially if ts a VP game as you need to get out into "no mans land" to secure those VPs

The Pop cap is small, at 56, so it limits spamming of alot of units and tends to encourage a team orenietated/combined arms approach.

Would you prefer a more traditional map, or roll with this map style?

I like this map style. No screwing around with resources, just skill.

Hey guys, on request from one of the strat expersts over at Gr I made a 1v1 version of nomans land, links in the above post if your interested :)

This map is cool. We'll take the 6p version, as you can still play it with less.
Some little things you have to do. I would like to call it Moscow, as it fits perfectly.

1. Rename the filename to "6p_Moscow".

2. Rename ingame map list name to "Moscow (6)".

Once this is done, please post new version in the initial post, and its a wrap.

Shouldn't Moscow be in snow, if I am right?

Battle for Moscow began in october, so its okay.

yeah the snows didnt kick in till the offensive was at the doorsteps of Moscow, but there was MUD!

im a bit of a history buff, would you like me to put together some stats and facts about the battle of Moscow......i mean it was the largest land battle of the war! (yep evan bigger than kursk)

I think moscow fits well, because it fits the design of the map with the null territory.
A place at a point of time where things can go both ways easily, in a kinda bogged down situation.
The germans also cant conquer the territory, representing the furthest point of advance.
It's all more in a symbolic kind of way.

The ground conditions might have been different often, but it also wasnt like it rained non stop.
What do you say Porta?

Last edited March 2, 2009 at 11:42 PM by Apex

Yep nice summary Apex, i concur

Indeed, Moscow is often overlooked as one of the most critical battles that occurred on the Eastern Front.

Operation typhoon was launched Sept 30, 1941, with the first mild snows occuring around Oct 6-7, which subsequently melted truning the ground to a quagmire by the 12th Oct

by this time the Vyazma gap had been closed and the lagre bulk of russain troops anhilated, Zukov is quoted as saying the "there was no longer a continuous front in the west and the gaps could not be closed becuase the command had run out of reserves. The road to Moscow is almost entirely unprotected!"

By October 14 th rzhev had been taken. just 130 miles northwest of moscow, wher on the same day Stalin ordered the evacuation of top millitary and govournment officials to kuibyshev.......Moscow was on the verge of Panic

But stalin didnt lose his nerve, and by 19th Ovt he resolutley regained control of a paniced millitary and moscow unleashein g the dreaded NKVD

By November german forces were 50 miles from Moscow, on Nov12th tempertures dropped to minus 5 degrees,  then  up to minus 40 degees during Novemebr and december...german equpiment began to fail, thousands of soldiers suffered frostbite, or simply frooze to death in their summer uniforms, and then the Siberian troops arrived!

On December 6th 1941 the Soviets launched their counteroffensive, beginning the major loss for the germans and a bitter fighting retreat though no mans land!

Last edited March 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM by Porta

Sounds good! Make sure to check for spelling mistakes though.

Actually dude, since we are lacking 1v1 maps and u said au have a version of it, lets take that one and make it the moscow map.
This is actually the perfect tournement map.

Porta, please change your Map Name to $18010115 and your Map Description to $18010116 and also post a menu description of the map around 50-100 words long on this thread.

Apex I am confused by that last comment - will it remain a 6p map or will it become 1v1? And will it still be called Moscow, or will that be the name of the 1v1 map?

please see post in Seelow Heights


Heres a finalized version without the above changes: 2p Moscow.sga
http://files.filefront.com/2p+Moscowsga/;13534596;/fileinfo.html

we'll take the 1v1 version.

Ok heres the final version with map descrotpion below, i'll get Seelow up next week :)

Final Version Mocow (2)
http://files.filefront.com/2p+Moscowsga/;13555773;/fileinfo.html


MAP DESCRIPTION

Operation Typhoon was launched Sept 30, 1941, the first mild snows began falling around Oct 6-7, subsequently melting and turning the ground to a quagmire by the 12th Oct.

By November German forces were 50 miles from Moscow, temperatures dropped to minus 40 degrees.
Oberstabsgefreiter  Porta knew they were in the shit when the breech in his Panzers gun in his froze solid......and then the Siberians counterattacked!
On the retreat from Moscow Porta was one of the few soldiers to have seen the towers in Moscow itself......whether or not he’d live to tell anyone was another question!

I will look forward to playing this in the mod, job well done!