What weapon(s) would YOU like to see in the Ostheer?

Quick poll to see what weapons YOU'd want, and Why [email redacted] want, inside the ostheer.

I reallly really really dont not care at all. Besides the fact that I dont know all of the weapons, if its obsteer and fits the game, put it in.

Seeme wrote:
I reallly really really dont not care at all. Besides the fact that I dont know all of the weapons, if its obsteer and fits the game, put it in.

+1

Hey dont make so loooooooooooooooong polls atleast leave people with choices they would even bother to seeee :D

From an amature historians point of veiw, I thought this was a significant list of very usefull weapons. I enjoyed this poll

Well I think they should have much, much more of the MP40 than Wher and PE. Not so much of the Stg 44. That is pretty much what I really care abut regarding weapons.

Toorstain wrote:
Well I think they should have much, much more of the MP40 than Wher and PE. Not so much of the Stg 44. That is pretty much what I really care abut regarding weapons.

+1
I dont want to see a whole army equiped with some kind of experimental or uber weapons.
Becouse of the no recrew bug I also dont want to see towed guns and infantry heavy weapons.

Shrecks should not be in a 3rd fraction. AT riflenade is a good alternative.

Paciat wrote:AT riflenade is a good alternative.

I agree.

Werwolf wrote:

Paciat wrote:

Toorstain wrote:
Well I think they should have much, much more of the MP40 than Wher and PE. Not so much of the Stg 44. That is pretty much what I really care abut regarding weapons.

Becouse of the no recrew bug I also dont want to see towed guns and infantry heavy weapons.

I've also noticed that the "No-Recrew" bug would discourage the use of crewed units such as HMGs, PaKs and Nebelwerfers/Granatewerfers. Therefore, a possible solution could come in the form of self-propelled units. Some ideas:

1.) Schwere Wermachtschlepper "sWS" mit MG34 - T1. replaces heavy MG team; upgradeable with either 3.7 cm FlaK 43 (AP/AM/AA) or 15 cm Panzerwerfer (rocket artillery/fire-support).

2.) 3.7cm PaK 35/36 auf Krupp Protze - T1-T2. Light AM/AT.

3.) Schwere Panzerspähwagen (7.5cm PaK 40) Sd.Kfz.234/4 (8-Rad) - T2-T3. Heavy AM/AT.

4.) PzKpfw. II Ausf. L "Luchs" - T2. Recon/AP/AM.

That said, there should be more LMG34s and MP40s to go around...the Ostfront had a higher concentration of units armed with automatic weapons (both issued and captured) on all sides, compared to the Western Front. Especially in mid-late war. Ditto for 'Shrecks and 'Fausts. They won't be OP since the re-crewing bug would prevent the inclusion of infantry HMGs and other fire-support teams anyway.  ;D

Btw...you forgot the Eintossflammenwerfer 46 disposable long-range flamethrower.  8)

Last edited July 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM by Werwolf

Wish for mp40 emphasize however on one condition


Give it a decent sound  ;) The current sounds like popcorn popping 5 miles away

Celebrate diversity, read about the many different weapons used by the Germans. Great poll, but I really don't care. I just want to see the finished Ostheer soon. Whatever they are equipped with will be just fine with me.

Captured russian weapons like ppsh41 or something?

Id like to see the MG34 as a squad weapon, it was hard to maintain and more fragile meaning it would be good as an elite squad weapon along with the G43 :).

When Obsteer comes out, its going to be sooooo unbalenced ::)

poll was awesome!

mg-42, mp-40, and grewhr 41s for the win!

Wespe, wespe, weape...! It's in the Battle of Boulge mod too!

Whats a wespe?

A wespe is a mobile self propelled artillery gun.
Basically, it's the Hummel's little brother.

Cheers

loooooooool  , the wespe in the BOTB mod looks like a marder firing into air, looooooool ;D ;D

Don't get us started into what the Grille in BOTB look slike ;P

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

low angle field artilery for infantry support would be nice!
i think some thing like 15 cm sIG 33(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33)

kitekatus wrote:
low angle field artilery for infantry support would be nice!
i think some thing like 15 cm sIG 33(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG_33)

yea this is a very cool idea. It had been brought up serveral times here in the forum, but now - the modder team finally seems to know how to animate "shove weapons" like paks etc.- so its a really good suggestion now ;) !


Regards,

-V-

In a second thought, I would like to see MP40, FG42, Eintossflammenwefer 46 and de 8cm mortar, between the units of the ostheer.

Appears everythings winning edsept that Dreaded MG30, Austrain Vintage-WWI Era junk. :D

I'd like to see a flying hippopotamus :)

Mg34 would be a great idea for squads. And the whole wespe idea i love.

Venoxxis wrote:
the modder team finally seems to know how to animate "shove weapons" like paks etc.

:) Awesome. I've been looking forward to seeing some infantry support guns, I hope they put some in.

the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Akalonor wrote:
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Have you trryed the newest version? That includes all of the models, and it includes the Grille, and all of the guns work properly. Fun to play. :) Have interesting ideas in it.

TheReaper wrote:

Akalonor wrote:
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Have you trryed the newest version? That includes all of the models, and it includes the Grille, and all of the guns work properly. Fun to play. :) Have interesting ideas in it.

Still, the Grille in BotB looks like a Hummel/MarderIII/FlaK88/Schewerer Gustav siege gun..

Guys; this isnt the BotB mod thread and not the vehicle suggestion thread ;)
So: please back to topic! Thanks a lot.

Ok, first Comes in the poll the Marvelous Karbiner 98 Kurz.. This will Probably come in the Ostheer anyway.. On draw with that, we can see the MP-40 SMG, also at 26

At 21, the Panzershrek Rocket laucher!

Then, at 20, we see the Gewehr 43 Semi-Automatic Rifle.

At 19, the StG44 Assault rifle.

At 17, the Mg34 LMG.

At 14, the Panzerfaust RPG and the Flammenwerfer 35!

At 13, the MG42, FG42 and PaK44 AT Gun.

At 12, the PaK40 AT Gun, and the Panzerwurfmine,

At 11, the Panzerbüchse 39 AT Rifle.

At 10, the StG45, 50mm Mortar!

At 9, 12cm Mortar and the Luger P08 Handgun,.

At 8, G41 SA Rifle, and the MP-38 SMG,

At 7! Both greandes,

At 6, PaK36 AT Gun,

At 5, Eintossflammenwerfer 36, Luftwaffe-Fliegerfaust, Walther PPK, and the Steyr-Mannchlinner 1895 Rifle, 

At 4, Finnish-Russain Weapons, S-18/100, PaK43 88mm AT gun, Walther P38,

At 3, 8cm/81mm Mortar, PaK38 50mm AT Gun, Püppchen 88mm Laucher, Volksturmm VG 1-3, Mauser HSc Handgun, Italian Made Weapons, Mp18

At 2, PArtisan Hunting rifles, Slavack Weapons, Faustpatrone, M30 Luftwaffe Drilling Shotgun/Rifle, Volksturmm Volkspistole,

Almost last, at 1... VMG-27, IMG-28, MG.M.07, MG35A, MG13, MG08,MP35, Mp3008, Mp34, Spz-Kr Rifle, M1907 Pistol, and the Sauer 38H Handgun,

and Last, at 0,... DUH DUH DUH, the MG30 MG!

Newbie. wrote:

TheReaper wrote:

Akalonor wrote:
the BoTB mod arty is horrible , it fires 10feet like a marder , than spikes like normal , the barrel doesnt even elevate:P

Have you trryed the newest version? That includes all of the models, and it includes the Grille, and all of the guns work properly. Fun to play. :) Have interesting ideas in it.

Still, the Grille in BotB looks like a Hummel/MarderIII/FlaK88/Schewerer Gustav siege gun..

Yes, it looks like the Marder III, becouse it's using the same chasiss (Pz38(t).
To on topic: I'd like to see the Pz38 in the game. :) It's like an off-map call in unit or something like the Land-Lease Sherman.

This is the vehicle thread?  ???
Lord Rommel.

Oh, I see. In a point of view, a tank is weapon.  ;) :D

Last edited July 30, 2010 at 5:18 PM by TheReaper

I just want to see more of what I didn't see in CoH Mp40s, FG42's, G43s, MG42s/MG34s and NOStG44s (used by too many units).

because he wants to see something different.....

NO NEED TO SHOUT

I also agree that NO StG44's should appear in the EF. (Maybe StG45's for a volksturmm unit, NOT STG44's!)

all in all i don't care which weapons
it should be only somewhere near reality
1-3 experimental things as call in or heavy expensive unit would be ok. But a Ostheer only equipped with such little produced/experimental things would kill the game.

So go flame me.

three weapons that i like to see in ostheer armament is MG34,  Gewehr 41 and scoped FG42
i can imagine a squad of 5 men with G41 something like a rifleman squad... :)

GamblerSK wrote:
three weapons that i like to see in ostheer armament is MG34,  Gewehr 41 and scoped FG42
i can imagine a squad of 5 men with G41 something like a rifleman squad... :)

Do you want G41 to suck as bad as COH M1 Garand?  :D

heh yea something like that ;D
anyway G41 better fits to a role of a weapon that sucks then a M1... :)

As some US soldier said in COH:

"Give me 1 round, one rifle and point me towards Berlin!"

Seeme wrote:
As some US soldier said in COH:

"Give me 1 round, one rifle and point me towards Berlin!"

" Perfebly the way that DOESN'T include Volksgrenadiers!"

What , I didnt hear you!
I think that the MG42 is a little over used , and the STG 44 is hardly used at all for Axis (Pe has alot though)

I would like to see some of these units are already available in other mods

hernan wrote:
I would like to see some of these units are already available in other mods

Jagdpanzer is already included! ts for the PE replacing Hetzer! The Pakwagen is cool, hey Panzer III should work along with it!

Wait? This is the weapon thread. Please display all these to the vehicle thead. They will wanted to see your stuff. I suggest that the 75mm Paks to be excluded, unless your making it expensive it will be a game breaker as other faction lack such weapon or as an emplacement. Battle of the Bulge both faction have the 75mm, something the Eastern Front mod avoided. Yes, Pak is important in Ostheer, but that size is crazy! :o

My suggestion of weapon is the MG34, very classic & original as German 1942 machine gun. Which all vehicles used it over the simpler but handicapped MG42. ;D

PanzerWilly wrote:

hernan wrote:
I would like to see some of these units are already available in other mods

Jagdpanzer is already included! ts for the PE replacing Hetzer! The Pakwagen is cool, hey Panzer III should work along with it!

Wait? This is the weapon thread. Please display all these to the vehicle thead. They will wanted to see your stuff. I suggest that the 75mm Paks to be excluded, unless your making it expensive it will be a game breaker as other faction lack such weapon or as an emplacement. Battle of the Bulge both faction have the 75mm, something the Eastern Front mod avoided. Yes, Pak is important in Ostheer, but that size is crazy! :o

My suggestion of weapon is the MG34, very classic & original as German 1942 machine gun. Which all vehicles used it over the simpler but handicapped MG42. ;D

If in RL the pak40 was a beast, but this is CoH, if it's needed it could do the same damage than pak38; Devs already said that in other thread, I wouldn't mind if it's part of the ostheer ::).