T-28

The Russian T-28 was designed to be a Defense busting tank, it had Smoke launchers and 3 turrets, 2 MG, 1 Cannon
there was  a OT-28 a flamethrower version (Doctrinal call -in ??)
--Although the T-28 was rightly considered ineffective by 1941, it is worth remembering that when the Red Army was fielding the first T-28s in 1933, the French Army was still largely equipped with the FT-17, and the Reichswehr had no tanks at all. No army had a series-production medium tank comparable to the T-28 for several years.The T-28 had a number of advanced features for the time, including radio (in all tanks) and anti-aircraft machine-gun mounts. Just before the Second World War, many received armor upgrades, bringing its performance on par with the early Panzer IV, although its suspension and layout were outdated.--   





~Aka

beautiful just beautiful I would love to see this thing in the Russian Army. (it would be great against Osth. smaller scout tanks) (Osth. is the name I gave to the Ostheer)       

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-28

Notes that in the Winter War, many of these were disabled but repairable - maybe give this a self-repair ability to keep it viable in the later game, when the other first-tier tanks are pretty useless?

Needs a pretty flamethrower  ;D

YES! love the idea, possibly have the flamethrower as an individual unit upgrade? Either way this should be added ingame

Ye, the individual unit upgrade similar to the Flamethrowers for the Ingenery, but with Churchill Croc style range, damage, and ability to keep the main gun.

I can see why people have never recomended the T-35 , but why not T-28 says I :) but I'd like to see how they work in the multiple turrets, maybe just give it a wider machine gun arc.

I think why they haven't considered it is because the coding involved I am guessing is extremely difficult and 1 turret is bad enough, why complicate things and make 3. Just some food for thought :D

It was a 10 year old tank.
In some ways I could be compared to a PzIV stubby but who  needs a T-28 when you have a T-34. Its like giving a M-3 Lee to the US.

If the M3 came in a quicker way then the rest I'd use it

The M3 was a very good tank, it was simply that the Sherman got produced so quickly. Off topic though.

The T-28 DID see combat in WWII nonetheless
Renaults were used by the Germans in low supply areas and that was the First "successful" tank to be made.
The T-28 should be a starters medium tank, its armor was thin so it isn't a superstation but it is a good defense busting tank (Think of the uses at a  Lyon map) that was very successful. Perhaps letting it be buildable from the Wep. Sup. center , The fact is its not meant to challenge the T-34 just provide support.

Add a flamethrower to make it a OT-28 if you still think they don't need it. :p

well not really I'm defending the T-28 (small tank) and he brought up the erm.....M3 thats is. (small tank) so Im in a sense defending small tanks and in a sense thus defending the T-28 ;D

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Akalonor wrote:
The T-28 DID see combat in WWII nonetheless
Renaults were used by the Germans in low supply areas and that was the First "successful" tank to be made.
The T-28 should be a starters medium tank, its armor was thin so it isn't a superstation but it is a good defense busting tank (Think of the uses at a  Lyon map) that was very successful. Perhaps letting it be buildable from the Wep. Sup. center , The fact is its not meant to challenge the T-34 just provide support.

Add a flamethrower to make it a OT-28 if you still think they don't need it. :p

hmm maybe some sort of upgrade for it though....like an upgrade for the support barracks 

I vote for it being an individual upgrade like the Sniper artillery, even though I love the flames. Giving them a global upgrade would probably be a bit OP'd. Of course, if the Ostheer get a flamethrowing PzIII without individual upgrade, the Soviets could always get the OT-28 without having to upgrade.

Daiwiz wrote:
The M3 was a very good tank, it was simply that the Sherman got produced so quickly. Off topic though.

To fight japanese with no medium tanks or German armor in 1942. So was the T-28. "It was simply that the" T-34 "got produced so quickly".

ford_prefect wrote:
well not really I'm defending the T-28 (small tank) and he brought up the erm.....M3 thats is. (small tank) so Im in a sense defending small tanks and in a sense thus defending the T-28 ;D

How is T-28 small? There is a reason I compared M-3 Lee and T-28. Same weith (later T-28 were even heavier), armor (T-28 - thicker) and caliber of the gun (M-3 gun was better but it was hull mounted).

Last edited March 10, 2010 at 7:25 AM by Paciat

smaller than everything else Russia has (besides the t-70 and t-90)

ford_prefect wrote:
smaller than everything else Russia has (besides the t-70 and t-90)

and T-37a, T-40, T-26, BT-5, BT-7.(almmost the same weight as T-34) Remember that T-28 was build in the mid 30s. In fact only KV and T-35 tanks were hevier.

Last edited March 10, 2010 at 12:57 PM by Paciat

And those two were considered unsuccesful, not so much the KV1 , but the T-35 was considered a nightmare for crews.Thats why I recommended the T-28 instead.

Paciat wrote:

ford_prefect wrote:
smaller than everything else Russia has (besides the t-70 and t-90)

and T-37a, T-40, T-26, BT-5, BT-7.(almmost the same weight as T-34) Remember that T-28 was build in the mid 30s. In fact only KV and T-35 tanks were hevier.

In game -_-

Perhaps as a reward unit, replacing the JS-2...? Or another unit. Ideas, anyone?

JS-2 is a heavy tank, Medium should only replace medium, maybe replace  T70's as an early starter.

Akalonor wrote:
JS-2 is a heavy tank, Medium should only replace medium, maybe replace  T70's as an early starter.

It also has multiple turrets, don't forget. But you're right, It shouldn't replace the JS-2.

Last edited March 12, 2010 at 1:55 AM by Shadowmetroid

I would rather have T-28's than T-70's/90's

me too +1

Akalonor wrote:
I would rather have T-28's than T-70's/90's

I would rather have a quick stubby BT-7 than another slow stubby T-28.

BT-7 would be an awesome addition, as well. It looks cool, and it's fast to boot!

Yes, BT-7s would be good, T-26 isn't a bad idea either.

yes, they should