Conscript Rifle

Why don't you make conscript rifle a dropable weapon? So that when a men with rifle dies, who don't have can pick up one? I don't think German or American may mind picking up a Mosin-Nagant  ;D. If another squad of conscript pick up a rifle, and then its number of armed men above 4, reinforcement will be men without rifle. I watched a replay where a squad of conscript lost his 4 man with rifle, so that it is now a really meatshield.

I like the idea, i do think it takes a long time before you can upgrade them :)

i think that it might be the whole picking up weapons issue, such as scince soviets cannot re-crew weapons they cannot pick up any either, its just a un-fixable bug if im right.  But if this mod goes official then maybe relic can give us some help.

They can't recrew but they can pick. Do you remember Tannenberg where the major firing a LMG42?

well it was just a guess soo dont shoot me haha

Oh yes :) American or british picking up a moshin nagan
and LOSING their garand in the process...

downgrade, anyone? :)

Yeah, why would you want to pick up a Mosin anyway? Besides, you can't pick up an Enfield or Garand from Brits or Americans...

I meant that only Conscript Mosin. Since they have only 4 rifle for 8 men, and in history, when a man with rifle get killed, who don't have will pick the rifle up and shoot. That just a temporary way to arm the conscript while waiting for NKVD upgrade. Remember, you can pick rifles, but if your squad have 4 rifles or more, reinforcement will come unarmed.

I only see one problem with that, if now a player spams conscripts the whole map will be filled up with Moisin nagant riffles lying arround. It could go on costs of performence and would be quite ugly to look at too. But besides that i like the idea.

If a player spam conscript, I think he has just made his game harder since conscript usually not worth 200MP and just give xp to your enemy. I usually count on ingenery and wait for Strelky since I don't want to see my kill:death ratio too low.

The issue of the rifles laying around is easily avoidable:
Just make the Conscript Rifle a special weapon with a drop rate of 0. This means that when a rifleman dies, the rifle is passed on to the next man down, but never dropped. If all but 1 man dies, he still 'carries' the other 3 rifles, which re-appear in the hands of his mates when reinforced. When the squad is killed, the weapons are destroyed.

I don't know why this is a problem now. I thought it worked alright in the Beta...

It's a problem because when a rifleman dies, nobody gets his rifle. So there is a possibility you could end up with 4 unarmed men in the field.

Oh, why don't I remember that CoH has a value "drop rate"? Well, devs, change your conscript rifle in that way, and game will be better.

Mr. wrote:
It's a problem because when a rifleman dies, nobody gets his rifle. So there is a possibility you could end up with 4 unarmed men in the field.

Exactly, I agree with you. I'm just pointing out it used to work.

nbeerbower wrote:
Exactly, I agree with you. I'm just pointing out it used to work.

Right, I misread. I thought you were arguing against me.