Remember that the Ostheer is coming.

I am not going to complain about any thing here, but I would remind you all that the Ostheer is coming up and could maybe be a faction better suited to play versus Soviets.

It is hard to balance when you can only change one of the teams...

So don't nerf everything in the soviets just yet, wait a little for the Ostheer. ;)

You sugesst: dont play this mod becouse its not complet and russians should be still great OP? I know the ostherr be UP on start. Why? Becouse everyone allies like easy wins.

Soviets need to be balanced against the Wehr and PE anyway to create a level playing field. It's not balanced if both sides have their own 'Super Faction' that can kick the ass of the vanilla Armies without question.

BurroDiablo wrote:
Soviets need to be balanced against the Wehr and PE anyway to create a level playing field. It's not balanced if both sides have their own 'Super Faction' that can kick the ass of the vanilla Armies without question.

But nobody here wont real balance it.They falling in love with his new Red Army and did not see the need for general change in  a bad game play.This can not be corrected by small changes.

Bauer wrote:
You sugesst: dont play this mod becouse its not complet and russians should be still great OP? I know the ostherr be UP on start. Why? Becouse everyone allies like easy wins.

No, with vanilla coh factions, wehr is  more powerful than allies in end game (look at relic forums) so easy win were wehr's. The thing was just that allies are easier to play but in a high level, wehr player are better. Be careful, I don't say that Wehr is a too op faction but units like pak make allies armor useless and wehr arty as stukas owns everything.

Now that came russians, wehr players had to find new strats, because russians were not ami or brits, it is a different play of style but not an unwinable , not an op faction.  ;)

Bauer wrote:

BurroDiablo wrote:
Soviets need to be balanced against the Wehr and PE anyway to create a level playing field. It's not balanced if both sides have their own 'Super Faction' that can kick the ass of the vanilla Armies without question.

But nobody here wont real balance it.They falling in love with his new Red Army and did not see the need for general change in  a bad game play.This can not be corrected by small changes.

give it some time, there can't be a patch every day
balancing issues need to be posted and collected to be fixed

and i doubt that most people prefer a faction to be played exclusively

Iglooman wrote:

Bauer wrote:
You sugesst: dont play this mod becouse its not complet and russians should be still great OP? I know the ostherr be UP on start. Why? Becouse everyone allies like easy wins.

No, with vanilla coh factions, wehr is  more powerful than allies in end game (look at relic forums) so easy win were wehr's. The thing was just that allies are easier to play but in a high level, wehr player are better. Be careful, I don't say that Wehr is a too op faction but units like pak make allies armor useless and wehr arty as stukas owns everything.

Now that came russians, wehr players had to find new strats, because russians were not ami or brits, it is a different play of style but not an unwinable , not an op faction.  ;)

Someone playing WH on this forum? no? great.

I only play as germans, the ruskies are hard even on easy, bring on the ostheer I say....... I cant hold back the red tide for much longer.
OB3R

German players will not defeat russians, to the coming of our super army

I think many of you misunderstood my post. I mean that a lot of things that people has complained about against Wher can be done with the Ostheer.
Like circle-strafing tanks (which is hard with German tanks).

And I don't think that the Ostheer should be OP too (even though that is pretty much what I wrote in my post... ::)), I just think that it should fit better against the Soviet than the Wher does.

I am all for balancing. Actually I think there is a lot of balancing that needs to be done. But remember that the axis also gets another team. ;D

Toorstain wrote:
I think many of you misunderstood my post. I mean that a lot of things that people has complained about against Wher can be done with the Ostheer.
Like circle-strafing tanks (which is hard with German tanks).

Panzer III will fit that "circle-strafe" logic quite well, I just hope that Ostheer will remain true to Wehrmacht and won`t implement some radical things, after all - it`s Wehrmacht on the East :)

Capt. wrote:

Toorstain wrote:
I think many of you misunderstood my post. I mean that a lot of things that people has complained about against Wher can be done with the Ostheer.
Like circle-strafing tanks (which is hard with German tanks).

Panzer III will fit that "circle-strafe" logic quite well, I just hope that Ostheer will remain true to Wehrmacht and won`t implement some radical things, after all - it`s Wehrmacht on the East :)

You says the ostherr should bee weak like a WH? Ostherr must be OP like a russians to defeat this red...

Last edited January 29, 2010 at 6:54 PM by Bauer

Bauer wrote:

Capt. wrote:

Toorstain wrote:
I think many of you misunderstood my post. I mean that a lot of things that people has complained about against Wher can be done with the Ostheer.
Like circle-strafing tanks (which is hard with German tanks).

Panzer III will fit that "circle-strafe" logic quite well, I just hope that Ostheer will remain true to Wehrmacht and won`t implement some radical things, after all - it`s Wehrmacht on the East :)

You says the ostherr should bee weak like a WH? Ostherr must be OP like a russians to defeat this red...

No. Nothing has to be OP. Thats it. But first they gotta balance the soviets in playing against the existing german factions. Major changes still have to be done.

With the new OstHeer will elite units be made available such as the Großdeutschland and maybe even some SS units as an upgrade path? Keep up the good work and I now have found a way to beat those commies.
OB3R

well think about it. Germany by 1944 and '45......How many SS are left? By know the main German Army is made up of just regular soldiers or even worse on the front lines to deal with the masses of Soviet troops