The Axis countries

Ok, first thing, i just want to thank you all for giving us this fantastic mod. Off course, a lot of things needs to be tweaked, a lot of bugs to be removed, but you guys did a hell of a job...

To get to the point
You still have to give us Ostheed, and I dont want to get in to the game mechanics and stats, I'll leave this to you, but i am concerned with the visual identity and mixture of troops and nations. On the allies side, we have Americans, British and now Soviets, and on the Axis side we have only Germans (both Wehr and PE are Germans). Germany didn't fight the war alone, and Eastern front if perfect for inclusion of other Axis nation.

Concept I have in mind is simple, just take the Germans for the basis, and in every Tier put one unit from other Axis nations...

Axis countries that fought on the Eastern front:

Romania
Bulgaria
Hungary
Croatia (Croatian Legion involved in the Battle of Stalingrad)
Finland (not a ''classic'' German ally, but gave the Soviets a hell of a fight)

And, that's it folks :-) hope you like the idea...

Don´t forget the Spanish Blue Division.

Saavedra wrote:
Don´t forget the Spanish Blue Division.

......18,100 men really??
it last faught on the 10th of October of 1943 and the mod is set in 1944-1945
also Italy would be a good choice

ford_prefect wrote:

Saavedra wrote:
Don´t forget the Spanish Blue Division.

......18,100 men really??
it last faught on the 10th of October of 1943 and the mod is set in 1944-1945
also Italy would be a good choice

What? Stalingrad and Leningrad are early 1941-42ish and they're featured in the game. And Kursk was pretty big and that's in 1943, I see why not.

It doesn't  matter really, only a handfull of Ostwinds or Pershings saw action in WW2 but they are still a part of the game... It is just an Idea to give the game a little touch... (in my country we call it "schmeck") as I said, Axis wasn't only Germany (although was by far it's the most important part)... Eastern front it a perfect "spot" to integrate them ingame...

HyperSniper999 wrote:

ford_prefect wrote:

Saavedra wrote:
Don´t forget the Spanish Blue Division.

......18,100 men really??
it last faught on the 10th of October of 1943 and the mod is set in 1944-1945
also Italy would be a good choice

What? Stalingrad and Leningrad are early 1941-42ish and they're featured in the game. And Kursk was pretty big and that's in 1943, I see why not.

yeah but they were all gone by october of 1943

werhmacht 250 division[spanischen Freiwilligen division] was retired in 1943 but the spaniards continue to fight in another units:
28 SS Div. "Wallonien
brandenburguers
24 SS Division "Karstjäger"
1 Btl./SS-Pol.Rgt. "Bozen"
1ª Komp. de la infame 36 Waffen-Grenadier Division der SS "Dirlewanger"
SS-Einheit Ezquerra.{this unit in berlin 1945}
Spanische-Freiwillegen Kompnie der SS 101/102

so your saying they don't even have their own unit :P also I did notice that Italy already gave up by '44 so don't add Italy

I think that these units would fit in the main army:
Csaba scout car
role: point capture, reconnise, detects stealth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39M_Csaba
Zrinyi assault gun
Unit role: early infantry support
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/43M_Zr%C3%ADnyi
Turan command tank
role: coordinates of the armours movement and attack, providig offensive, and defensive bonuses. Int he real version the command version of the tank had 2 R4 and one R5 radio, had a dummy cannon to avoid the enemy’s attention. Operational crew was 3 member.
http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/tanks/tanks-a/14556/view/41_m_turan_ii_%28hungary%29/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40M_Tur%C3%A1n_I

Im no expert, but there were a lot of scandinavians on the eastern front.
The last om them surrendered, when the german army did(May, 1945)

Here's a good video about the hungarian war equipments, good for education, and maybe you get some idea from it:
A Magyar Királyi Honvédség fegyverzete

God be with you.

Slovakia troops fight in Russia to (on the Axis side offcourse)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_Republic_%281939%E2%80%931945%29
also they use a lot of own armament

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._24

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZH-29 one of the first semi automatic weapons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZB_vz._26 - the british bren is a modification of this machinegun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZK-383

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8_cm_minomet_vz._36

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OA_vz._30

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tan%C4%8D%C3%ADk_vz._33

and more,down on the wiki pages you can find more weapons of czechoslovakia origin and used by Slovakia (after declared independence from Czechoslovakia) also Slovak forces was the only non german forces which attack poland on the axis side...

Last edited January 28, 2010 at 1:18 AM by GamblerSK

Lot's of weapon developed by Czechoslovakia. The Hetzer was for example made from the Pz 38(t) chaisis.

Yes as well as Marder III and more...We had a good armament not so much troops as Germany but we have defenses so we could hold germans and the british and france could attack from the rear and the ww2 wouldnt took so long...