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Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

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#19769

Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

I think the Red banner strelky is kinda too much. You should consider making a choice between smgs and lmgs. They just weren't that cool with all that firepower, You know, they should still be riflemen. But that is my opinion. ;D

Last edited February 8, 2010 at 4:37 PM by Toorstain

#19780

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Just drive a halftrack into them, or use an MG. They won't be much at all, then.
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#19805

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Agreed, could you change this slightly. Or have 2 ppsh or 1 LMG but not both, and the rest rifles.

And can you make the banner slighly bigger and cooler, it seems abit flat, and non wavy, it would just look awesome. The banner should dominate the battelfield, put fear in the enemy when they see that banner, it would just be cool if it actually waved more and was bigger, maybe with a more detailed ragged and war torn look :p

They should get a commisar asell, like conscripts do, just for astetics really. I mean all sqauds have a leader, and i know theres is a seargent probably, but could this be shown :p

Remember when in enemy at the gates they charge, and theres lots of different size flags, and they wave :P

but other than that, strelky are solid, and kl.
#20014

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

How does the Red banner not put fear in the enemy? It just screams "I'M COMING YOUR WAY WITH DP28S AND PPSHS MOTHER F***ER."

Also, I think a waving banner would need to be animated and well, let's face it, it's not something too far up the list of things to do.
#20134

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

No. I payed 200 munis for pa-pa-shas, dps, and a glorious Red flag. And I'm gonna get 'em.
#20626

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

yer, just slightly bigger though??? thats surely quite simple, i just found it was very small, like not even the size of the flag carrier :/ oo well
#20838

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

It wouldn't hurt if the Red Flag was bigger, but that would mean more work for the team. Think about the new model and anims. They are busy enough with the Ostheer as it is, so I'm willing to wait for it, If it is going to come.
#21099

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

agree maybe u wanna add one more drummer?  ::) ;D :D


i understand this mod in traditions "enemy at the gates" movie !
i mean red flag bearers and conscripts with half men without rifles (((((( and very big squads numbers cause
#21140

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

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QuoteAnnaud hads a hard opinion about Soviet officers: all of them are equipped with a Red Banner and a megaphone!

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94th Guards Infantry Division, 100th Separated Anti-Tank Artillery Divizion.
#21425

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

and what? every battalion has its own battalion flag (standard) but they not fighting with it like this troops in the mod! =)
#21580

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

So?

That's the reason why playing with them brings so much fun!

Some stats needs to be fixed, but in general this mod is superb!

Stop complaining -> start to play and give some more constructive tips.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of your enemy.
#21720

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

stufu wrote:
and what? every battalion has its own battalion flag (standard) but they not fighting with it like this troops in the mod! =)


Company of Heroes is not a realism rts. This mod is meant to be an addon mod to the Company of Heroes game. If you want a realism rts, go get Men of War. Or you can download N44 mod.
#21781

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

u misunderstanding me , i know this not realism mod.
#22420

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Generally, it is only in Annaud film soviet soldiers are all surrounded with red banners :)

An really, every regiment (not batallion) had only 1 Banner, wich was a holy relic to soldiers of its regiment, and was always places an a Staff of regiment (not with frontline squads). If it would lost or captured by enemy - regiment would be disbanded and ashamed.

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Also, You see th original style and size of Banner. "Ingame" Red Banner is a copy from "EatG" film, wich is totally incorrect.
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94th Guards Infantry Division, 100th Separated Anti-Tank Artillery Divizion.
#22668

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Toorstain wrote:
I think the Red banner strelky is kinda too much. You should consider making a choice between smgs and lmgs. They just weren't that cool with all that firepower, You know, they should still be riflemen.


Hmm, NOO! They are the only damn Soviet infantry that can stand their ground,  and are not OP at all. Live them alone or NKVD will get your name ... or nick
#22881

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

I don't think that they are OP, but just that strelkys look cooler with rifles than SMGs ;D. And why change their main rifleman unit into close combat units when you can make ingenerys become sturmovie and awesome in CQC. :-\ I love the red banner, but I feel that you just don't have LMG AND SMGs. Maybe a choise between thees two. Free, of course.
#22901

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Don`t upgrade them then ;D
#22911

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

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QuoteЗнамя части представляло собой квадратное полотнище с изображением на лицевой стороне золотых серпа и молота и надписи: "За нашу советскую Родину!", а на оборотной стороне изображение красной звезды с золотой лучистой каймой и названием части.

В Красной Армии в 1941 году была создана Гвардия - почётное наименование отборных, проявивших особый героизм войсковых частей.

Знамя гвардейской части имело на лицевой стороне портрет Ленина, девиз "За нашу советскую Родину" и "СССР".
Размер Знамени: 145 см х 115 см.
Оно украшено золотой бахромой.
Древко имеет длину 250 см и диаметр 4 см.
Знамя снабжалось двумя кистями на витых шнурах (в каждой конкретной части к древку прикрепляли орденские ленты, а к полотнищу знаки орденов).

На обороте размещалась малая красная звезда с серпом и молотом в середине, название и номер части и девиз (например, "Смерть немецким оккупантам!").


QuoteBanner is a square of cloth with the image on the front side of the gold hammer and sickle and inscription: "For Our Soviet Motherland!", and on the reverse side of the image of a red star with a gold radiant border and the title part.

In the Red Army in 1941, was created Guards -- honorary title selected, with special heroism troops.

Banner Guards unit was on the obverse portrait Lenin's motto "For Our Soviet Motherland" and "USSR". Banner

Size: 145 cm x 115 cm. It is decorated with gold fringe.

Wooden flagstuff has a length of 250 cm and a diameter of 4 cm.

Banner supplied with two tassels on the twisted cords (each specific part of the shaft attached to the medal ribbons, and to the flag signs of orders).

On the back was placed a small red star with sickle and
hammer in the middle, the name and part number and the slogan (eg, "Death to the German invaders!").

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94th Guards Infantry Division, 100th Separated Anti-Tank Artillery Divizion.

Last edited January 27, 2010 at 5:33 AM by Artillerist

#23609

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"


I would prefer the flag moved to the major, maybe with an upgrade that would allow them to be upgraded with better weaponry aswell as some sort of bonus, like a reduction in ability timers or let them throw a grenade, then replace the red banner strelky upgrade with this and have strelky get some weaponry with the upgrade /or by default.

I would name the upgrade to be something like "Guards status title" or some guards medal name  (Heroes of our Soviet Motherland???) which then means you get the guards flag and priorities in weaponry and supplies.

:)
#23622

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Artillerist wrote:
Also, I would suggest to exchange two abilityes:

-"Za Rodinu!" - attack rush of Command Squad
-"Red Banner rush"  of Strelki.

Logically, there must be only 1 Red Banner per player, wich supposed to be a Banner of Company. And it is more really and logically to give that "man with banner" to Command squad (wich supposed to be "curfew platoon" - "Banner Guard Platoon").

And with Strelki - instead of "man with banner" after upgrade, Officer could be added, with ability "Za Rodinu" - "attack rush".


It need just exchange those two abilityes.

Strelky (upgraded) will have their own officer (may be Warrant officer - "Veteran of front"), and ability "Attack rush"

Major with his Command Squad will have Red Banner of Company at the begin (and actual task to save it and take care of it :) ), and ability "Red Banner rush".

Would be again - more logical.
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94th Guards Infantry Division, 100th Separated Anti-Tank Artillery Divizion.
#24485

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

I was born in a communist country and all the movies I see all soldiers respect more then any thing will be s red banner . If the banner is fallen. Some one else takes his place. So cammabder squard should have a red banner
#24973

Re: Red Banner Strelky a "little too much"

Well it looks like they fixed the strelkys (WOOHOO! ;D). I guess you moderators can lock this topic or something and the banner-guys can start their own topic.